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I've just experienced every man nightmare! Please help me

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Originally posted by holmsy
Unfortunately every girl has handled a monster.

That’s not true. That’s the equivelent of saying “every guy who’s had sex has done so with a big breasted woman”. Bigger than average penises…especially those in the “monster” category are MUCH less common than big or even huge breasts on women. I made the mistake ONCE of asking about a woman’s sexual past. Never again. I’ve come to believe there’s no need to ask about things you dont really want to know about anyway. Most of us probably have at least ONE little thing in our past that we would rather not disclose and just leave in the past. What good does it do to ask about a man or womans past anyway? Not much. Do you really need to know about her one crazy summer in Daytona Beach, where she was the main attraction at the Gang Bang 500? Or, about the wild threesome with Juan Valdez and his donkey? If you find someone you like and, care about that persons’ past is their past and should stay that way. Unless of course they for some reason just volunteer you the information without you asking. Even then, it should not bother you what they’ve done in the past….assuming they have not displayed any tendencies to repeat their past actions. I love the double standards with the sexes. Men who’ve “been around” sexually can openly brag to their buddies and be reveared as a “stud” or a “ladies man” and, how dare a woman think less of him. On the same token, a woman who has “been around” sexually….may be considered a “slut” or “easy”. “Well baby, there was this ONE guy who was bigger than you…..” SO? She’s with YOU now isnt she?

If her exes bigger size was such a big deal to her then why is he her exe? So what if your not as big as her exe? If that was an issue to your girl then why is she with you?
She couldn’t have been too happy with him anyway. I bet his dick size was not the reason for their breakup though. I also bet your dick size is not the reason she is with you now. Its not a good reason to feel insecure with yourself.
I think there might be other reasons that you feel insecure & your masking them with dick size. You need to ask yourself what the real problem is with your insecurities?

:confused:

Size…does not matter…if you satisfy her or not, does.


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

Actually, I think Skeptics’s post is one of, if not THE, reason most are doing PE. Insecurity about ones self is a very strong motivator. It reveals itself in many ways including: work-a-holic, bodybuilding, political ambition, fighting ability, possessions, etc, etc… Men (like myself)(and in somewhat different ways, women) love the feeling of power and control. Anything we can do to “tame” this need is a motivator. Whether it is more money than the next guy or a bigger dick.

Yes, hearing that your woman has had a “bigger” dick is a shot to the psyche but I would argue a VERY similar/same emotion exists when she talks about the… stronger, taller, richer, smarter, better… previous man in her life.

For me, penis size has ALWAYS been an insecurity. Being below average erect and seemingly TINY flaccid created a terrible complex. Thank God that I didn’t have surgery. The combination of expense and the FEAR of something going wrong kept me from the knife. It is amazing really to think about how many men are willing to take the risk and spend the money in HOPES of being “bigger”.

Honestly, PE has been a mental miracle for me. Even though I am now only average/large average… I am truly a new man. I have even been with 2 women (almost 3) that my dick was actually TOO BIG!!! One of these told me about her “big” experience and I believe her completely when she says it wasn’t pleasant. In the past I would have had a similar reaction to Skeptic but now I am much MUCH more secure. Sure, I am targeting even more gains but the current results have had far more than just a physical impact on me.

Thank you PE, Thunders, and to all who went before me and contributed to this pool of PE knowledge.

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Originally posted by anna nimity
Just curious, why do guys get so upset about this? My husband has dated women much prettier, much wilder, much smarter, more ambitious and so on and so forth, than I am. I can't help being who I am at the time I am me. I can eventually change, but I don't fret if he wants bigger or smaller breast, or bigger or smaller ass, or smarter or richer mate. I can't do anything about that because this is who I am. I shouldn\’t have to be anything more or less than me.

I know I don't have a penis, but being a woman is just as hard. Maybe that is why sometimes when women mention certain things they don't think twice about it because they assume if would not start an argument or hurt the other person's feelings. No matter what you do, you can't change she may have had better. Six months, if she wasn't satisfied, she wouldn't be there. I assume. So why fret over her past. Why look way behind even yourself to look for something to worry about. Isn't the day to day and future events enough?

I just hope down the line you guys that inquire your girlfriend's past that you are going into the past of her life. There may very well be things you may not want to know. And when you find out, accept it and move on. Doesn't make you less of a person or less of a man if the man before you did this or that or had this or that. Just my opinion and I mean no harm in stating it.

Thank you so much Anna, I really appreciate your input. Over the past 6 months or so, I’ve discussed some with my wife about her past. What I’ve felt is that first, she didn’t want to admit exactly how much bigger some of her previous partners were, and second, how they made her feel. I mean how it felt in a physical sense etc. She still says that I make her feel better than anyone has, and I know that our sex life has continually improved during our 15 years of marriage. Since many of us have apparently heard the same lines like “you’re a perfect fit” etc I can’t help but believe that you females are intinctively trying to protect our fragile male egos to some degree. I’ve told my wife about my experiences, in fact I told her that the GF previous to her was very tight. I can honestly say that I’ve had much better sex overall with my wife, yet it’s still true that tighter felt better. I know that it’s not true for all women to the same degree, but with penis size I believe that bigger is better as long as technique isn’t painful. Various members here have reported adjusting to their new size, with some positions causing pain or lack of lubrication causing it etc. So, to the original poster it is very possible that she did not enjoy the big dick. In my case, I know that my wife has had many bigger than me. Therefore, I assume that at least some of them gave her great pleasure otherwise she would not have continued to seek out football players etc.

It’s a little different considering only BF/GF relationships as opposed to one night stands. With love & feelings involved, women can learn to enjoy smaller or larger than average regardless of their past experience. However, a woman who practices casual sex with multiple partners and seeks out large, muscular athletic type guys I will assume knows that they will likely have bigger than average penises and therefore must enjoy them more than average sized ones.

wesb


wesb

01/01/03 6.50" BPEL, 5.25" EG

10/6/05 7.50" BPEL, 5.60" EG

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Originally posted by wesb
However, a woman who practices casual sex with multiple partners and seeks out large, muscular athletic type guys I will assume knows that they will likely have bigger than average penises and therefore must enjoy them more than average sized ones.

Wesb, your statement above is ANOTHER reason for my previous insecurities. At 6 foot tall, 190lbs, lean and muscular, stronger and above average in size and an “athlete”… women expect me to be “big”. In the past knowing this expectation was a nightmare and kept my sexual conquests to a minimum.

Now, that fear is GONE. Great, absolutely great.

Also, I don’t think muscularity is a good predictor of penis size as many (myself included) tried to compensate for a small dick with the weight room. Now, I am glad that I appreciate my current dick and also having a small dick made me REALLY work on being the best lover I could be. With a larger dick AND those skills AND much better ability (stamina, recovery) I am a BETTER man all around thanks to PE. As far as predicting dick size I would lay odds on hand size as the most reliable predictor. Having smallish hands myself I am soon to be an anamoly :D

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Originally posted by wesb
It's a little different considering only BF/GF relationships as opposed to one night stands. With love & feelings involved, women can learn to enjoy smaller or larger than average regardless of their past experience. However, a woman who practices casual sex with multiple partners and seeks out large, muscular athletic type guys I will assume knows that they will likely have bigger than average penises and therefore must enjoy them more than average sized ones.

wesb

I was going to mention that too. I think that is true. Feelings for a person matters a lot in what you get out of an experience. At least for some women.

I have never been much of a casual sex person but I have had my share of lovers. And they have all varied in size. I can’t say that one was better than the other because of his size. It’s not just the size of your dick that matters, but your self confidence that goes a long way as well. Anyone that is insecure about themselves tend to hold back because they are more consumed in what the other person thinks about this and that. It takes away from the experience and can hinder you. So the mind can cause you more problems then what one may assume the penis is.


You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great.

Zig Ziglar

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Originally posted by anna nimity
It's not just the size of your dick that matters, but your self confidence that goes a long way as well. Anyone that is insecure about themselves tend to hold back because they are more consumed in what the other person thinks about this and that. It takes away from the experience and can hinder you. So the mind can cause you more problems then what one may assume the penis is.

THAT is an excellent point that I also saw in another thread about average size. In my own case, I could easily have dwelt on the bigger ex issue and kept pressing my GF on it, trying to force into describing any pleasing experience she might have had with him… then sulking about it and letting the thoughts interfere with my own sexual experiences with her. Thankfully, I snapped out of it and allowed myself to feel good about her being with ME. Confidence is a turn on to women. Likely a much bigger turnon than penis size. Confidence just happens to go along with larger penis size more often I think. Maybe that’s a central reason that, given the whole experience, women appreciate a well-hung guy… because he’s not hung up about it (no pun intended).

See this post on the confidence thing (made me stop and rethink things):
northstar - Average size, who are we kidding?

My last three girlfriends and wife had guys bigger then me in their past, or so they say, not sure where on the scale I stood as far as their experience but I never worried about it that much… I agree with Anna in that I’ve had experiences with girls that were ultra hot and the size of tits / pussy wasn’t an issue… It’s all attitude…

*Still looking for one that is willing to take it in the ass!*

I need to chime in here. The girl I’ve been with for a while now was a virgin when we met, but her and her last boyfriend fooled around. So she has seen 1 other penis.

I’m 8.25 bp x 5.75 g now, but the last time we had sex I was 8 x 5.5. Our sex lasted all of about 5 minutes…..why? Not becuase I came, or she came because it hurt her and she could no longer bury the pain beneath the pleasure in her words. I wore a condom and had plenty of ky liquid flowing , lube wasn’t an issue, she says it’s like poking a pin in a balloon and that rubber being pulled inside on every stroke.

The other night I told her I gained some more and she was like “why? you’re already huge, why do you keep wanting more”…..I said well I guess I’ve just been brainwashed for 20 years that bigger is better and the larger the penis the better it’s going to feel. I got silence…so I asked, well doesn’t it feel good, she said “No, it just hurts, it hurt before you got bigger but felt good at the same time, now it just hurts”. So not only am I totally killing any desire for her to have sex with me, I’m defeating the purpose of crafting a larger penis.

Moral of the story is, if your girlfriend or wife tells you she had a guy that was bigger but it didn’t feel good and the sex didn’t satisfy her, believe her!!! I might be that guy down the road that her husband or new boyfriend gets all insecure about, but belive me they dont’ have a thing to worry about, she has a total lack of intrest in the size of my dick….she realy couldn’t care less. That poor guy down the road though…..he will be all bent out of shape about the pleasure I didn’t even give her…

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Originally posted by tigerbass
That poor guy down the road though…..he will be all bent out of shape about the pleasure I didn't even give her…

Great quote there, Tigerbass, and thank you for sharing it. I feel bad for you, man. Maybe there are some stretching exercises that SHE can do to accommodate YOU.

I am just beginning my efforts here, so I will be sure to be careful with how big I get (or try to get). I’ll remember that its for HER that I’m doing this too.

Tigerbass

8.25 will be to big for most young chicks unless they have a lot of experience, but you will find that 8.25 will serve you well when your older and most chicks you meet have had a few kids and have a few miles on them.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

TheSkeptic

It seems you have learned a lesson the hard way. I would suggest that in the future you don’t ask and don’t tell. Asking about past lovers will lead to nothing but pain. If we are reassured we suspect that our wives/gfs are just humoring us. They may be truthful in their reassurance, maybe not. It is at least good to know that they care enough to protect us from our own curiosity. If there is a bigger guy in the past as far as she is concerned there is nothing she can do to change it. I do think that size matters and the bigger the better within reasonable limits, however I also think that size matters much more to us than it does to them. For men the physical stimulation is augmented by the emotional and erotic element. For women I think that the emphasis is reversed and the emotional and erotic element of lovemaking is most important and a good size can augment it (if it doesn’t hurt of course). So relax and don’t fret. She chose the whole package. work on lovemaking skills and seduction as well as making your dick bigger (which btw is on the larger side of avg). good luck.


Check it out guys, no need to have a big dick if you ain't gonna use it!!

Thanks for the encouragement everyone, it has really helped. I read some of the posts before I went to sleep and they made me feel a lot better about it.

I found out something interesting that helped put this all in perspective. First of all, she broke up with her boyfriend because her and I became friends and she wanted to be with me. I’m not proud of it, but we had sex once before their breakup was final, so she knew my size. I guess I can understand that it really doesn’t matter that much.

The really interesting part is that she said her ex was really depressed all the time about his looks. He was in fact almost obsessed. He wasn’t a bad looking guy, but he was depressed about it. Most of us here associate confidence and self-confidence to our penis size to some degree, but maybe we shouldn’t. I have even seen some posts where guys talk about how they are not going to date until they reach their goal. That’s just silly. This guy apparently has a huge dick and he doesn’t have any confidence. Just a thought.


Started 5.75 x 4.75 Goal: 7 x 6! <-- Started with a piglet, want a HOG

Questioning a woman ad-nauseum about your size and her past lovers does nothing but make a man seem needy and desperate in a way that no woman finds even remotely attractive.

I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that most women would prefer a self-confident guy with a decent stick over some monster cock guy who’s forever questioning her like she’s his mommy and wants her to say that his pee pee is okay so that he can feel like man.

To quote Ben Affleck’s character in the movie Boiler Room: “There’s an important phrase that we use here and I think it’s time you all learned it. “Act as if”. Do you understand what that means? Act as if you are the fucking president of this firm. Act as if you have a nine inch cock. Act as if.”

Probably the best thing a guy can do for himself is to follow Ben’s advice and go PE until it’s true.

MX

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