Newbie, this is the most informative thread I’ve read in this forum. I think the reason why I haven’t gained anything is because I need more rest days. I’ve been stretching and stretching all day, then a 30 minute jelq period 5 days a week to get some length gains. It’s probably killing my penis. I’m going to take your advice and do every other day of 20 minutes of jelqing. I’ll try that for a month or two. But first I’m going to take a week off to start fresh. Do you think if I do a 5-10 minute stretching period before jelqing will hinder my gains? Has anyone else been following newbies routine and got fast gains?