Is this Bad?

A lot of times (most of the time) when I’m done jelqing, I figure I should look to see how big my penis is and end up masturbating since I usually do PE while watching porn. I know that jelqing and sex between workouts isn’t bad, but what about directly after jelqing?

Repeat after me…..Masturbation does not affect gains. Now run and hide before Westla comes rolling in here. :D

I know some guys say they feel worse or that they don’t seem as big after masturbating, but it won’t affect your gains. If it did no one here would gain anything. :leftie:

I’m waiting for the results from remek’s PE Survey. I heard a rumour there may be some surprising evidence on this very topic.

I have continued to gain even tho once in a while I jerk off after PE.

It certainly doesn’t prevent gains… tho I know the argument out there is that it could slow them.

I say, indulge yourself! Besides, PE is a long term plan. Jerk off if you want every now and again afterwards and don’t feel badly at all.

Yes indeed.

I did not know this. I am now intrigued as well.

RTG, remek - *** The PE Survey ***

The question about masturbation is biased. In order to say “yes, I masturbate after PE” it implies you have to have masturbated at least 70% of the time after exercising. I masturbated about 50% of the time and it had no effect on my gains. Some taking the survey who masturbate after PE less than 70% of the time will say “no” and throw off the significance (or lack thereof) of maturbation’s impact on gains.

I don’t see how ejaculating after PE workouts could hinder gains. The arguments are conflicting:

Some people say you shouldn’t ejaculate after PE because it lowers testosterone levels which inhibits growth.

Others say that PE is completely different to bodybuilding, and theorize that the blood cells in the penis enlarge rather than multiply, in which case testosterone levels shouldn’t have an impact at all. Incidentally, when you gain fat, the majority of the gains will be via cell enlargement as opposed to cell multiplication (this only happens once you have gained a significant amount of fat and the calories just keep coming in), and excess fat is associated with low testosterone levels and increased eostrogen. Go figure.

Finally, it is somewhat comforting knowing that you’ll be able to shoot your load at the end of the session. It makes it psychologically pleasing, rather than spending your entire workout worrying about whether or not you’ll be able to control yourself at the end. I don’t know about you guys, but I have had some of my best masturbation-induced orgasms after PE sessions. It could be the hour or so of ancitipation, almost like foreplay.

I’ve found that post-masturbation flaccidity is a lot more retracted than post-jelq flacidity. I think that when your penis contracts a lot, you will not gain as much as if you keep your penis from going into that retractive state. I used to have the hardest (no pun intended!) time jelqing because every time my penis would get very hard, but I’ve gotten used to it and I can actually control my erections a lot better. But I see no reason it would really result in no gains, just that if you’re retracting, watch out.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? The world may never know! PE is not something that lends itself to the certitude of a double blind study. Unless, of course, you believe that masterbation leads to blindness!

Replensishing the fluids after one ejaculates requires energy. It’s not a zero sum game. There’s enough evidence to say with some degree of confidence that masterbation will not PREVENT gains, although it’s nearly impossible to prove that masterbation will not affect gains in any way, shape, or form. Growth, or lack thereof, comes at different times during the PE cycle. We’re still trying to figure out the mechanics behind it to create optimized and continuous growth, i.e., when to take a break, when to exercise more vigorously, emphasizing stretches vs. jelqs and vice-versa, the list goes on!

I, for one, found a decreased desire to masterbate once I began to practice PE. It seems that I’ve been able to see my penis as being more than a device to deliver an orgasm to my system. After witnessing more than a few ladies check out my package with their furtive/clandestine glances, I can see my penis as part of my overall physical appearance. Whether or not a lady likes them big, a bulge of some degree seems to add a certain asthetic appeal to one’s overall appearance.

I will still masterbate on occaision, regardless as to whether or not it retards progress. (I find that post masterbation flaccidity is smaller than post sex flaccidity, for what it’s worth.) But I also accept the risk that ejaculation will deplete energy and redirect my body’s resources for a period of time.

I noticed this as well, and it was kind of a surprise. I was the type that rubbed at least one out every day, regardless of how much I got it from the wife (2-3/week club). Now (or at least before the break I’m on) I just found less desire to wank off. Dunno, maybe it’s just some Freudian-BS desire to spend quality penis-time with myself, which is now being satisfied with PE instead of masturbating. :chuckle: