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Is LESS more, or is MORE more?

I would say it varys from person to person, some suffer negative results , ED and injuries from only some light jelquing, some can perform a massive, intense workout and still have good night and morning wood, etc., so it’s difficult to say what is less and what is more until you can evaluate yourself and your results from your routine.

I go at it quite hard but EQ is and has never been a problem. I can get so hard my dick almost hurts. It was like this before PE and nothing has changed. I’ve only been committed for a couple of weeks so I don’t know if I’m over training or not yet. Small red dots is the only problem I have but it doesnt stop ‘wood at will’

Is a good way to test this by doing shorter routines for a couple of months then switching to longer routines and compare your PI’s and EQ as well as size gains?? I will keep this in mind and try to switch up the length of my routines to see which works best for me.

Originally Posted by Willsong4
Is a good way to test this by doing shorter routines for a couple of months then switching to longer routines and compare your PI’s and EQ as well as size gains?? I will keep this in mind and try to switch up the length of my routines to see which works best for me.

Start with with Newbie Routine for at least 3 months. This will improve your EQ, condition your unit, and you should probably see some gains.

After that, you have to experiment to see what works for you.

For me, I’ve been doing this for three years and I’m in a “more is more” phase. I’ve been doing two a day workouts, 5 on and two off. And after a couple of injuries and a forced decon of a month or so, I’m gaining again. I never did two a days before.

I plan on sticking with it for the forseeable future. And also, EQ has been terrific, as has flaccid hang.

Aaron22,

Your first question was moved to your thread, the most suitable place for it.


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No one ever replies on my thread..

You can find your answer on the forum, there are planty of discussion about your questions.

Replies will eventually flow in, just give it a little patience.

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Ok thank you

I started 2 month back, instantly had great flaccid results then started doing 1000 stretches a day sometimes 2 a day 500 my erections improved and my morning wood and night wood was crazy couldn’t believe it how easy I would get a hard on almost like when I was a teenager. But now its a big backwards erections don’t last long I still get them but its like I have a 80-90% erection enough to get a blow job but not enough to fuck. Even if I take a half Cialis which is great support and really shows the gains when all the blood flows down there I can hardly maintain a long erection. It’s all a bit weird now and it seems my little guy has his own mind.

Have always thought that this is one of the ten best threads ever in Thunder’sPlace, and should be one that all new to PE are encouraged to read.

I know this is an old thread but I’ve had my 3rd injury since December. I warm up, stretch and jelq. I use heat and all precautions. But anything over 150 jelqs hurts my penis and forces me to stop for a few weeks. So I’ve come to the conclusion that 100-150 jelqs 3 times a week is my limit. Would like to know if anyone has gained going that low

My thoughts are that less is more.


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If I were to look at this from a muscle-building standpoint, which many people here make the comparison even if it’s not the same thing; then I would say that tissue needs to break down before it could rebuild stronger. That’s called adaptation.

You need to damage tissue enough for your body to see it as a threat to its survival and thus adapts to better handle that stress in the future.

People have different levels of work capacity, meaning the amount of micro damage they can recover from in a given time.

No matter how good or bad your work capacity is, there needs to be an increase of work over the period of months or years in order for adaptations to keep occurring; otherwise known as progressive overload. The reason work must increase over time is that your body will eventually stagnate because the stress isn’t enough to cause physiological changes.

I have no idea if this even applies with non muscular tissue. But it seems like at least some of it applies since most users do move on to more intense or longer sessions, or even switching things up which in the bodybuilding world can serve to shock the muscle with something it’s not used to and get it growing again.

Originally Posted by carlitos2055
If I were to look at this from a muscle-building standpoint, which many people here make the comparison even if it’s not the same thing; then I would say that tissue needs to break down before it could rebuild stronger. That’s called adaptation.

You need to damage tissue enough for your body to see it as a threat to its survival and thus adapts to better handle that stress in the future.

People have different levels of work capacity, meaning the amount of micro damage they can recover from in a given time.

No matter how good or bad your work capacity is, there needs to be an increase of work over the period of months or years in order for adaptations to keep occurring; otherwise known as progressive overload. The reason work must increase over time is that your body will eventually stagnate because the stress isn’t enough to cause physiological changes.

I have no idea if this even applies with non muscular tissue. But it seems like at least some of it applies since most users do move on to more intense or longer sessions, or even switching things up which in the bodybuilding world can serve to shock the muscle with something it’s not used to and get it growing again.

Remember this is smooth muscle so its much different than muscle, muscle, and time in seems to give results, verses intensity like weight training

I think like weight training going lighter, then moderate then heavy, then back down to lighter or moderate may be wise. Sometimes two steps forward, one step back.

In my experience with an injury from hanging, once weights are feeling too heavy, signs of overtraining, , best to back down in weight

Originally Posted by Peispossible
Remember this is smooth muscle so its much different than muscle, muscle, and time in seems to give results, verses intensity like weight training

I think like weight training going lighter, then moderate then heavy, then back down to lighter or moderate may be wise. Sometimes two steps forward, one step back.

In my experience with an injury from hanging, once weights are feeling too heavy, signs of overtraining, , best to back down in weight


It’s far more about collagenous tissue than it is about smooth muscle.


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