Is It In Yet????

This is on page three of the four page article about the study.

"Women who rated themselves as more attractive were particularly concerned with larger size. Of women describing themselves as "much more attractive than average," 64 percent cared strongly or moderately about penis width, and 54 percent cared about penis length. Women who rated their own looks as average were about 20 percentage points lower."
http://www.psyc hologytoday.com … 1-000022&page=3

So hot chicks that are more confident in themselves admit they like a big dick:)

Not necessarily more confident in themselves, but more confident in having a wider selection of men to fuck. Women with lower self esteem don’t see themselves as capable of getting everything they want and would rather settle for the not-quite-mr.right. If they fear they’ll hurt a guy they like, they will lie.

I’ve had countless discussions with women about sex and they initially drone on and on about how size isn’t an issue. The topic then hints at, “Why? How big are you?” Rather than give them dimensions, I use my hands to demonstrate length and girth. Then, as if clouds part from the heavens, size matters!

Beenthere, I know you sometimes frequent the iVillage women’s boards… have you quoted that article in any of the forums there? If so, what’s been their response? (I’m muttley44 over there)

This has been the most interesting/inspirational thread I’ve ever read.. It took me a few days to get through, but wow!. I’ve been laughing my heart out, felt horror, anxiety and anger.

I know I have a fairly average sized penis.. Nothing to applaud about, and have never been hit in the face with negative comments regarding this.. My ex girlfriend was flat chested and I was average, so I guess we both knew it was wise to shut up about this during arguments as we both had some equal amount of gunpowder to burn.

She often asked me if I wanted her to have bigger boobs, but I told her “No - you are fine the way you are.” and I wasn’t lying either.. I was an assman at the time anyway. I never asked her if she wanted me to have a bigger penis, because I was already so insecure about it, and I know I couldn’t handle a “big penis” discussion, no matter what the outcome would be.

Often during sex, she told me I was big, .. That made me shy, and in conflict with me “knowing” otherwise.. But deep inside it made me happy.

All in all I haven’t really had a penis-issue to bring me down.. At least not with another person - only in my head. It’s silly and somewhat immature, and I feel I best not tell anyone what I’m doing all day long - wearing my ADS 10 hours a day. I believe this is mostly a mind problem, and the horror about it is equal whether you are 5” or 7”.. The dick is small to you.. And the desire to bring it bigger just grows to outer dimensions when you discover it is actually something you can do about it. So it was with me at least.

It all started for me a friday night in January. Tired from work and with a couple of beers to enjoy I was lurking some dirty pages on my computer.. Then I stumbled over a page advertising some penis extender.. I studied it thoroughly, plowing through tons of documentation and studies.. And thought to myself; “I want a bigger penis!” Simple as that. Further searching ended me here at Thunders, adding more routines in addition to the ADS, reading posts and learning - which motivates me to keep on the journey.
One month has gone, and I can see, feel and measure positive changes already.. I know it’s a long way, but the true dream of having a “large” tool makes me smile in a mysterious way.. :)

Nice post petrus47 and welcome to the forum:)

Thank you for that, Dino.

petrus47, I agree with Dino. That is a well written, informative, and entertaining post.

Is English your native language?

Thanks again. Nice to hear positive feedback.. No, English is not my native language :)

Great thread, been reading it all day.

Here are the 3 stages of my personal penis biography:

1. Puberty through mid-20s: measure myself at slightly over 6” NBP as teenager, decide I’m slightly above average but nothing to brag about, remain virgin until mid 20s/now (for non-size related reasons - I’ve just had other priorities), and never give penis size another thought.
2. Stumble across random forum posting (non sex-related site) saying “women worship big cocks, but will put up with your merely-average one if you’re at least cute”. After that, some mildly curious searching leads me to that infamous penissizedebate site, which makes me feel like crap for about a day. “Oh god, all this time I never knew that women wanted crotch-forearms, I’m so glad I never showed them mine …”
3. After a day of self pity for being merely average, I measured my girth for the first time ever - 5.9” MEG, 6.1” BEG - and double checked it against the average about 10 times. The pleasant shock of being above average in a category I didn’t even know existed motivated me to do some more research, which led me to Thunders.

I’m horrified by some of the bad stories on here, but I don’t see that wanting to enlarge your dick is weird and must be based on personal trauma/BDD. For me, as soon as I was convinced it was real (a few days of half-hearted dry jelqs got my EQ up far enough that I committed more fully) PE was more of a “why not” than a “why” proposition. Maybe some guys in the gym/library were teased for being weak/dumb - but most? I bet that if PE were more common/peer-pressure approved, more guys would do it - or at least as many as currently feel some need to exercise/read/be hygienic.

With 5.9 MS girth you will NEVER hear the question “is it in yet?”. lol

Heh, thanks - it’s taking some mental readjusting to see myself as above average.

I assume most guys assume dicks are just different lengths cut from the same width-salami, unless specifically told differently.

Girth is king no doubt, length is more for bragging rights:) .

Girth IS nice to have. But, length allows for a few more positions, provided that it’s not too long. (9+ IMHO)

I was quite the dweeb in high school so I was twenty three before my first girlfriend. She was a single mom twenty years my senior, her oldest was a year older than me. I received an excellent education from this woman, in technique and in attentiveness to subtle cues about what technique is right for her current mood, arousal level.. The relationship was over in about nine months. But ever since I have had no trouble satisfying a woman. And my skill gave me the confidence to break out of the dorky-shy-guy rut and put an end to the no-action stage of my life. For the last dozen or so years the only thing that could keep me from getting laid regularly was a long-tern relationship with the wrong girl (I am now with the rightest girl ever, three years together and still putting out five times a week). Over the years all I ever heard about cock size was along the lines of “If a guy has your skill, it doesn’t matter.” A few girls told me the like a well hung guy, but since I could make them moan and squirm, and they kept coming back for more, I didn’t get too worried about it. One time however, while fishing for compliments, I asked the current GF about how I compared as a lover to her exes. She told me I was the best, but one guy was close. Nothing to do with skill though, he was just really well endowed. Still, I gave no thought to my size, hey I made first place after all. Then last December I was talking dirty during sex, like usual, and described a scene with her fucking another man in front of me. We’ve talked about experimenting with swinging if our sex live ever starts to fizzle out and our fantasy life includes lots of multiple partner scenarios. Just spontaneously, I threw in a bunch of details into the story about how this other guy was hung like a stallion. My awareness of subtle cues was not necessary to read her reaction. Fantasizing about a horse cocked stud was making her cream all over my dick. After many years, the most obvious question has finally occurred “What if a guy has skill AND a great big cock?” It took a lot of work to get past the “I am happy with your size” type answers to the TRUTH, that over the years the biggest factor affecting how much pleasure she has during sex has been cock size. So here I am at Thunder’s Place. I have only been doing PE for two months, but my newbie gains have already made a difference in her pleasure level. Thank you, thank you, thank you to all the vets who so generously share their experience with us new guys.

Ya I think you have a point with the “what if he has skill and a big cock”. That’s what I’ve asked women in the past when they say size doesn’t matter. Imagine you have two copies of the exact same guy who is a great lover… one with a big cock, one with an average one… they’re gonna go with the bigger one (as long as it’s not too big of course).

Anyway, I can imagine the feeling you had, and I don’t want to have it ever, which is partly why I PE.