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Intensity

I believe that ramping up the intensity levels of exercise is required as one progresses on their PE journey, but the question is: How much is too much?

When I’m totally relaxed, leaning back in my EZ chair doing a set of tunica fulcrum pulls, I am really generating some serious traction on my unit. I tend to go inward, ignoring pain & discomfort, and I can actually feel my hands becoming further apart….and then Fear comes creeping in, and I yield to it.

I keep wondering, “Is the frontier of those extra gains just another 1/4 inch away - or is that where diaster lies?” I have heard of guys “fracturing” their penis (usually one of the chambers of the CC), but I don’t know if it’s possible to actually tear one’s unit - but I sure as hell don’t want to be the first.

Or to literally sever a ligament.

Either would be a catastrophic injury, requiring surgery and rehabilitation - not to mention a lot of pain & humiliation. And there’s a chance that your unit would never be the same again.

Anyone else have these fears, or am I just paranoid???

I hear ya, wad. You’re not alone on this one.

I measure by the amount and type of “pain”. I noticed that at certain weights when hanging, it was comfortable. Too comfortable.

But when I increased the weights, I started to be uncomfortable. And that’s when the gains started. I think that whatever method one is using, jelquing, hanging, ulis, etc., being able to completely control the amount of discomfort is most important. If it starts to be painful, back off.

It’s a balancing act. For example, when I’m hanging, I use 20 pounds, but I don’t actually lift this off the floor on all 3 sets (I use a pulley system). I lay on my bed and inch down, further and further away from the weights until it’s starts to border on very uncomfortable but not yet painful. It’s that kind of “sore” that one gets that can be considered good pain like when weight lifting. But my point here is that I set up my system so that I’m in COMPLETE CONTROL… down to the millimeter.

If the device that one is using doesn’t allow for the kind of control, I think you might be asking for trouble. There was one post that said he was pumping and his penis “popped”. Ouch. But he also said that his girlfriend was the one doing the pumping and that there was a clear warning sign before it happened. What was the warning sign? Pain. It hurt. He even said so. She didn’t listen. Kept going. And… pop.

I think our body will tell us when too much is too much. And, of course, the general rules set by the experienced vets—like the 20 minute hanging rule. I personally hang only 15 because what Bib said that a tourniquet can only be on for 17 minutes. And, of course, I always monitor the color, sensation, temperature of my glans.

I think if we’re smart and knowledgeable about it, we’ll be okay. :)

oh my lord… his what popped? the head? GOD that’s scary.

But yes, in response to your question, I definitely have the same exact worries when im jelq’ing… not so much as when im stretching though. When jelqing and I see the head getting bigger I start thinking “What if I were to do it too hard and it exploded”.

It was the side of his dick, the cv? (cs?) Anyway, it just collapsed and now his penis is crooked or something like that. Scary! I’m not doing any pumping.

If it was the side of his dick that popped it must have been the CC. This shows that the expansion you get from pumping is not just fluid build up as some believe, it’s an actual expansion of the CC!

So pumping can be a good addition to a PE program, follow the guidelines in the pumpers forum and you’ll be okay.

I am going to have nightmares now, god! I am picturing it in my mind, his dick popping and collapsing on one side. That would be horrific for any guy to experience. Horrific and terrifying!! Just imagine the look on his face and the sinking feeling in his heart as it was happening before his eyes!

I do worry a lot about pulling too hard on my dick, as I have experienced my lig giving way on one side with a big pop and being injured from it for a whole year, with a permanent slanting of the penis towards the left. Not any bends in the actual dick, just slanting due to the right lig being slacker than the left. It has healed in that state but it is healed atleast and able to take lots of pulling these days.

The problem is that I am a powerlifter/strongman lifter, and I find it hard to assess how hard to pull because people say pull hard, but if I pulled truly hard I have the strength to destroy my dick. Thats probably why I got my first injury. So I am glad I have some fear as it makes me back off from yanking my dick off. It isn’t pleasant being in fear all the time though.

My experience was terrifying, but having your actual dick pop and collapse on one side leaving you with a crooked dick must be so so horrific!!


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Last edited by Gottagrow : 12-28-2003 at .

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Originally posted by Gottagrow

The problem is that I am a powerlifter/strongman lifter, and I find it hard to assess how hard to pull because people say pull hard, but if I pulled truly hard I have the strength to destroy my dick. Thats probably why I got my first injury. So I am glad I have some fear as it makes me back off from yanking my dick off. It isn't pleasant being in fear all the time though.

This is exactly what I wonder. I don’t workout any more, but I still have a lot of strength in my hands (I used to wristcurl 220 lbs, all the way the down to the fingertips - which I attribute to some mild carpal tunnel now :( )….anyway, there’s no way I’ll pull “all my might” or, as you said, I might “destroy my dick.”

But I know that, on the other hand, if you take it too easy on yourself you won’t make any gains. It’s like a very high-risk juggling act: To pull or not to pull.

I’ll also had a lig injury, by the way. But it didn’t last too long, fortunately.

Wad, about the wrist curls. I too can wrist curl similar weights, but I have learnt that it is better to half that weight and go for 20-30 reps, as although I train the rest of my body on reps of 1-5, my arms have many tiny muscles and bones in them and are much easier to strain and harm compared to one single bone or muscle group. When it comes to wrist curls the bones and tendons in the hands are worked very hard and if they aren’t all in perfect sinc with eachother, one or more of them can become agrivated. It’s the repeated twisting motion of such small bones and tendons which makes it an unsuitable muscle for low rep maximum poundage work.


There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world: and that is an idea whose time has come.

NOTE: Replace the seventh last word with *exercise*.

NOTE: I use low rep high poundage work for reverse curls, standard curls as these exercises do not twist the tendons etc in a plane which tests the limits of their structural integrity and can work the muscles, tendons and ligaments without exposing them to high risks of injury. Cleaning and pressing barrels/kegs will give you grip like never before, and heavy deadlifts are the business end of grip work.


There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world: and that is an idea whose time has come.


Last edited by Gottagrow : 12-30-2003 at .

I concur with 9x6: when hanging becomes comfortable, it is time to increase the weight.
No strain no gain.

In order to break my plateau (17.5 cm Bone Pressed) I started hanging 12 KG (or 10 KG).

After a while my tunica starts to hurt (as in when you stretch your muscles really good), and when it becomes to uncomfortable I stop.
A simple break doesn’t’t help. The limit has been reached.

It is too soon to say that I broke my plateau, but when I do, you guys will be the first (and last :) ) to know.

Hanging this amount of weight gives my visions of tunica ripping loose from the pelvis.
So usually I have my hand near the hanger, in order to catch it should this occur.

By the way I hang upwards, using a pulley in the ceiling.

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Originally posted by Gottagrow

Wad, about the wrist curls. I too can wrist curl similar weights, but I have learnt that it is better to half that weight and go for 20-30 reps, as although I train the rest of my body on reps of 1-5, my arms have many tiny muscles and bones in them and are much easier to strain and harm compared to one single bone or muscle group. When it comes to wrist curls the bones and tendons in the hands are worked very hard and if they aren't all in perfect sinc with eachother, one or more of them can become agrivated. It's the repeated twisting motion of such small bones and tendons which makes it an unsuitable muscle for low rep maximum poundage work.

Yeah, I found that out the hard way….like I said, some mild carpal tunnel. I don’t workout anymore - that was years ago. But I used to push the basic lifts hard (squat, bench, dead, powerclean, BB Curl, high pulls, shrugs, seated military presses, etc.). Normally, I worked the smaller muscles with higher reps, though - especially calves, which need very high reps.

I just used to be big into arm-wrestling, so I’d do some heavy, low-rep sets for biceps & forearms, but normally in the 6-10 range for most of the arm movements.

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