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Insecurities of a small penis

I am new to this website but in the same time i’m not. I’ve visited the website many of times for the past year, but never posted anything. I just wanted to a solution to lengthening my penis size. I’ve always thought that I have had a small penis. All through high school and even up to now i still think i do.
My erect length is about 6.5 and it has been this way since high school. I have only slept with one person my whole life and I’m 23 years old. I have always had that fear of being laughed at when a woman sees my penis. I didn’t lose my virginity until i was 19 because of my penis size. To top it all off I am black and society has put in everyone’s minds that black men have big dicks so its like a double whammy for me. I don’t know how I mustered up the courage to sleep with the one person that I did sleep with. Maybe I was just tired of being a virgin and didn’t give a damn what she thought of my dick. I’ve been pe-ing for about 3 months off and on. I’m gonna stick with it. I’ve seen some flaccid gains but no erect gains yet. I wanted to know if anyone hangs and pumps during their routine? I know pumping gives you temporary gains but does hanging cement those gains?

All am really worried about now is length. I hate getting up every morning seeing how stubby my unit looks when i have morning wood. I can hardly stand to look at it let alone someone else looking at it. I have conversation with my friends about dick size and they have told me their sizes. They all say that their dicks are over 7”. They could be lying or they could be telling the truth. I guess i’ll never know. I just want to have I longer dick and if I stick with routine I have 5 times I week, in the long run i think i’ll have gains.

millionsev

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Originally posted by millionsev
I am new to this website but in the same time i'm not. I'vi visited the website many of times for the past year, but never posted anything. I just wanted to a solution to lengthening my penis size. I've always thought that I have had a small penis. All through high school and even up to now i still think i do.
My erect length is about 6.5 and it has been this way since high school. I have only slept with one person my whole life and I'm 23 years old. I have always had that fear of being laughed at when a woman sees my penis. I didn't lose my virginity until i was 19 because of my penis size. To top it all off I am black and society has put in everyone's minds that black men have big dicks so its like a double whammy for me. I don't know how I mustered up the courage to sleep with the one person that I did sleep with. Maybe I was just tired of being a virgin and didn't give a damn what she thought of my dick. I've been pe-ing for about 3 months off and on. I'm gonna stick with it. I've seen some flaccid gains but no erect gains yet. I wanted to know if anyone hangs and pumps during their routine? I know pumping gives you temporary gains but does hanging cement those gains?

All am really worried about now is length. I hate getting up every morning seeing how stubby my unit looks when i have morning wood. I can hardly stand to look at it let alone someone else looking at it. I have conversation with my friends about dick size and they have told me their sizes. They all say that their dicks are over 7”. They could be lying or they could be telling the truth. I guess i'll never know. I just want to have I longer dick and if I stick with routine I have 5 times I week, in the long run i think i'll have gains.

millionsev

Keep in mind that you are about average right now. The racial stereotypes hurt everyone.

If you check the Kinsey reports, it shows a mere 1/10” advantage for blacks in length and width, while erect. Other studies show no difference at all. However, blacks have much larger flaccid lengths, which established the stereotype in the first place.

Growing up, my penis was about average, but it always turtle headed when I was flaccid. So because of this people in the locker room always assumed I had a micro penis. I got insecure about anyone seeing my dick while flaccid, even with my wife.

It’s possible that all your friends are bigger than 7”, but it is unlikely. I think that probably penis size is so important t o their group structure, that they will lie about.

Don’t worry, if you stick with it, I imagine you will be over 7” before the end of the year.

millionsev,

6.5 is a good length. I think no woman in the world will laugh about that size, because it is above average. I and a lot others here in the forum would love to have your size. So do not hesitate anymore and go for the girls mate. They are waiting for you!

It would be interesting to hear if anyone at all in this forum has been able to talk freely about this kind of insecurity with their peers. I personally doubt it.
Just as an aside: regardless of exposure in the occasional magazine article, it’s difficult to imagine PE ever ‘going maintream’ given this kind of climate. It will probably remain a curiousity to most people and nothing more.

Thanks for posting, Millionsev. The racial stereotypes which shadow black men are seemingly almost aggressively promoted. On one hand there is the braggadocio of rap artists, on the other there is that very popular, lucrative, and ( to my mind ) repulsive brand of romantic fiction, the ’ slave novel ‘. At any rate, while it might look like a mere urban myth, this sexual stereotype has a long, and intolerably ugly, history.

There must be a considerable amount of added pressure on you. But as everyone has said, six and a half inches is a good size and an excellent place to start.
I hope you find the information you were looking for in one of the more technical sections of the forum.
Best of luck!

Yip


"I just said it was big, honey. I never said it was pretty. "

- Me, a year from now.

I know this is late response to something that was said awhile back, but I sure don’t think self acceptance would be easier or quicker for me. Hell been trying to accept it for 15 to 20 years now, think I would much rather PE for a year or 2 and not have worry about it anymore.

Like alot of other’s have said, the morgue and the doc situations hit home. I can remember when I was going to join the Air Force and having to goto the MEPS to get the physical, I was so damn scared. I have turned down so many women because of my fears of being inadequate and been in many situations where I wouldn’t go all the way through with sex because of my lack of self confidence/acceptance. Usuaully I would end up just going down on the women/girls and actually became known for doing that(maybe they didn’t know why I was that way or maybe they didn’t care).

I was lucky when I was younger with the looks, to bad I was to self concious about my imperfections to turn some of those relationships into something good. Now that I’ve gotten older, there are less free women, and I have lost some of my looks(as well as hair, not to bad yet though); I need and hope this all works out in the end so I can have some peace(and hopefully a decent relationship).

Anyway, good luck to you all with your attempts at dealing with your problem. Also thank you for this great forum and community where I can feel like I can finally discuss something that has pained me for many years.


Last edited by Hopefulnewb : 02-06-2004 at .

These are great posts. I just wanted to say, even though I believe I am above average according to most of the information I have read, I too have been riddled with insecurity about size. It generally hasn’t held me back sexually, but I’ve always caved to the neurosis and started asking girls about my size - what they think is average, past partners, ect.

I mention this because often the girl would end up telling me that it was a bit of a turn off that I seemed insecure about it. Above all things, girls love confidence, and it shows in bed. If you seem at peace with yourself and try your best to please her, chances are she’s not going to be thinking “oh, he’s just average, bummer.” Generally speaking, they look for more than that.

Also, after reading all these internet surveys and reports, plus my own experiences and knowledge collected from the girl’s nice enough to induldge my questioning … I think that an average penis is realistaically under 6 inches, and under 5 inches in girth as well. We are more or less led to believe this is small, but i would say well over half of men fall into this range or below, if not more. Forums like this tend to be dominated by guys either doing well or already big, as they lack the insecurity that may hold some others back from posting. The combination of that, pornography, and one or two insensitive women could create a stigma that could really hold back your life if you’re not careful! Keep PE’ing, but remember that the confidence and self-esteem you’re gaining by enhancing your penis is worth just as much as those extra inches.

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Originally posted by Hopefulnewb
I can remember when I was going to join the Air Force and having to goto the MEPS to get the physical, I was so damn scared.

Damn, I forgot about that one…the fear of going into the military. It wasn’t a war I feared but having to be naked in front of the guys. Isn’t that absurd, but it’s the truth.

Ophiosaurus said”

feared death because I felt they all would laugh in the morgue (ha ha) “

LMAO, your not the only one there.

Ophiosaurus said “5.75 BPEL

I’m about 4BPEL….and still a virgin at 25

….can always be worse bro :-\

I´ve only read a couple of pages on this thread (been gone a while) but thought I´d add a few things.

It was brought up a while OK on Thunders that although this was, in the main, a place for guys with “small” dicks there weren’t many guys giving measurements under 5.5” and I don’t recall any pic showing what was socially considered small.

I know I wouldn’t have wanted to post my pic at the outset, but I wish I had at least taken a photo.

It is refreshing to read these posts, because I recall the feeling of being the only one before I found PE. Impossible to share my thoughts. My brother once said to me “Has any girl ever said you were small?” My answer was to laugh and deny, of course. that probably screwed him up even more, and sure didn’t help me much, except knowing he wasn’t the only one who had been called small. How I wish I had taken up that converation.

You guys don’t know how much you can help guys who are just lurking, afriad to post as most of us are at the beginning, to read they are equal to many, many other guys out there.

Shit, how many of us did not have those feelings about the doc, peeing in public etc. Perhaps 90% of all males go through this!!!

Personally I had never thought of the mogue issue until I met my future wife, whose family business was a funeral parlour. Seems we can’t even leave the small penis complex behind even after death ha, ha.

I’ve been lucky, had some erect gains, but if there’s one thing I’ve gained and will never stop repeating is the confidence I know have due to flaccid gains and sharing PE thoughts with you all.

So if anyone thinks they are the only one, think again - and share your thoughts here on Thunders.


Ciao

Originally Posted by Yippee
Yep, people do ‘orrible things to eachother and themselves. I’d just like to explain my first post on this thread about me givin’ up, givin’ in, and doing PE instead of just learning to live with what I got, ‘cos it was the easiest thing to do.

Cosmetic changes ( from PE, weightlifting, whatever ) have a much more direct impact on a traumatised self-image than therapy *if* the problem lies in the individual experiencing body image, perceived social worth and self-worth as being wholly inseparable. And the fact is that we live in a society - society here meaning simply a community of shared values - which is indeed appearance-obsessed and hypersexualised, and which actively sustains this kind of insecurity.

These insecurities, complexes, hidden fears, are sometimes so ingrained and run so deeply, that is, they are so much a fundamental part of how a person experiences his social and physical self, that to overcome them would require a radical change in both the individual’s character and world-view.

I still maintain that *in these cases* it is sometimes more pragmatic, or at least permissable, for the person to simply make a concession to his weaknesses and fears, and work, so to speak, from the outside in. Sooner or later the deeper issues have to be addressed, but the individual would have at least affirmed his power to effect measurable positive change in the outside world. This is surely a stable basis to build upon. What looks to be a minor cosmetic effect to the observer, such as, say, slightly larger genitals, or a decreased bodyfat percentage, or a slight increase in muscle definition, to the individual represents a degree of control over himself and his situation, and for that very reason, represents a source of hope.

Or, again, it may simply represent conforming to societal pressures. More usually it has elements of both. Either way, it is very difficult to progress without a working amount of confidence and self-belief, whatever its source. Put bluntly, sometimes you have to take what you can get.

!!!Awesome points. Well thought and well put. It is easier for “experts” ( the same type jackass talking heads that you see on “news” shows) to just say “size doesn’t matter” or “you have to instead change how you feel or think”. I say screw that level of introspection - it’s self-deluding. Let’s work on results rather than rationalization!

All I can say is: I feel YOUR pain, because it’s MINE too.

I went through so fucking bad times with all these inferiority complexes and I got obsessed about size. Most of the time I couldn’t enjoy sex and I could have slept with way more girls and have more relations.

I can divide the whole process of getting those “bad feelings” :

-I remember when I was 17, I was talking bad about one of my ex’s tits and she was mentioning dick size, at that time I was average and my dick was still growing, she said average was 18 cm lol
From that on my complexes got bigger, but even before that I wished having a bigger one, just watching porn movies with Rocco when I was 16.

-Then I made the big mistake to ask another ex-gf about their ex boyfriends, and she told me that one of them was bigger, so big that sometimes she felt pain. That fucked up the whole relationship. ( at that time I could even touch her cervix or what it’s called)

- In the meantime or afterwards, I can’t remember now. My mother told me about her ex-friend ( we lived at his house for about 10 years and he was manic depressive alcoholic with erectile dysfunction) that he had such a small penis, that she never saw a penis as small as this one, and she was working with an urologists when she was younger. And believe me she was talking bad…

—— So now I felt in deeper and deeper depressions because couldn’t think of anything else than that.——

-After some medical treatments (I had some drug problems too) I felt better and cared less about my size.
(I realized that I have never been small). Then I had a sexual relation with a chubby girl that was 8 years older than me, she loved everything. And I remember when we hadn’t sex no more, she was dating another guy and afterwards she told me that he had a MONSTER cock. I realised what ” THE POWER OF A BIG DICK” is (she only gave him a blow job). When I talked to her 2 years later about dick size, she even mentioned that she thought I was close to 8 inch (when we had sex 2 years before).

- 2 years ago I met my girlfriend, who I’m still with at the moment. At that time I got my SECOND DOWNFALL, I was feeling so bad and so insecure. I asked her about her ex-boyfriends and she told that no one of them was bigger than me, at that time I was fully mature and my dick was perhaps about 7.2- 7.4” BPEL.

- Now I’m on a better way, thanks thunder’s

… I had no ultra bad situation but the whole package still f*cked up my mind.


Girth gains for better sex, length gains for a worthless ego boost.

GOAL: 6" EG

Ophiosaurus

>>”It took me 9 years just to tell my wife (now ex) that I thought my dick wasn't big enough. After getting up the courage to share my most guarded secret she gave me no support whatsoever and just shook her head (in a mocking way) and said I was fine. I stopped there and didn't tell her any of my experiences and fears of the past relating to this.

About 5 months later I found out she was fucking another man for a year. Guess what one of the thoughts was going through my head?…yep, he must have had a bigger dick.”

Man,
I feel for you. That was really fucked up. You shared your inner concerns with her, she gave you the brush off, and had been fucking another guy for 7 months already. That’s really shitty. My friend, who got burned BADLY in a divorce, refers to women as “blood-sucking cum hogs who chew away a piece of your life each day, until you welcome death” (no offence to the women here, just quoting a friend of mine).

millionsev

>>”….I've always thought that I have had a small penis. All through high school and even up to now i still think i do.
My erect length is about 6.5 and it has been this way since high school. I have only slept with one person my whole life and I'm 23 years old. I have always had that fear of being laughed at when a woman sees my penis. I didn't lose my virginity until i was 19 because of my penis size. To top it all off I am black and society has put in everyone's minds that black men have big dicks so its like a double whammy for me.

….All am really worried about now is length. I hate getting up every morning seeing how stubby my unit looks when i have morning wood. I can hardly stand to look at it let alone someone else looking at it. I have conversation with my friends about dick size and they have told me their sizes. They all say that their dicks are over 7”. They could be lying or they could be telling the truth. I guess i'll never know. I just want to have I longer dick and if I stick with routine I have 5 times I week, in the long run i think i'll have gains.”

millionsev,
I’ve badly felt similar pressures – not from race (I’m white), but from body size. In my youth, I was a mountain of ripped muscle, and 6-4 with huge hands and feet. Women used to look at my feet and hands and giggle and make comments, and I’d think, “Oh shit!” I hated it. I was also at 6½ EL and about 5¼ erect girth, but I always got the impression that women thought I had a monster between my legs. It really ate at me badly. I’m 39 now and I’ve made good gains, so PE really does work. I just wish I knew this shit 20 years ago. Now, I’m about 7¾ EL x 6++ EG – and hard as stone, and I can cum again and again. My physique looks nothing like it used to (nothing!), but I have more confidence now than ever.

In terms of your buddies, I doubt they all are 7+, seriously. Some may be, some are probably lying. I had a very good buddy I trained with back in school. He was a black guy and very built but he was unhappy about his penis (and we were tight enough that he mentioned it to me). He never told me his size, but I saw it flaccid in the lockers and he was quite small. He used to refer to it as his “inch high private eye,” and I doubt he was even 6 inches erect. But he had huge arms and chest and I could tell that he was haunted by being a huge muscular black guy with a small weiner.

Society fucks with all of us.

- w a d

Best wishes, man.

I don’t know if mine exactly qualified as a small penis, but it was on the small side of average and small to me. I think the small side of average is probably the impression women had. I was about 6 1/4 bpel x 4 1/2 midshaft x 4 3/4 base. So my girth was my weakest point, but I didn’t even realise that back then. I mostly thought in length, and I can recall at one point convincing myself 6” length was average and since I was 1/4” over that I was proud of it.

But silence can be deafening and over the years I became more aware that women never made any comments. The good news was they weren’t saying it was small (until the day I was suddenly called a pencil dick), but the bad news to me was they were not saying anything period. The silence became even more deafening when I first overheard a big dick neighbor causing intense sounds of ecstasy from his girlfriend and I then became very aware I wasn’t getting any vocals from women, and I begin to think that was because of my size.

To make matters worse, I have a size fetish. I am very attracted to big amazon women, but at the same time I think they may can handle more. So that makes me feel even smaller when in the presence of a woman like that. I’ve had sex with a couple of women who were truly very big built women—-with one of these women I did about an hour of foreplay on her and had all her clothes off. She had a super build on her, big hips, big ass, big breasts, around 6’ tall, big lips, big strong thighs. I became concerned I wouldn’t be near enough for this woman, but I didn’t let on I was insecure. I had her so hot and bothered in the living room, and after all that foreplay she suddenly took my hand and led me to the bedroom. She had not seen my size yet, and I was actually sort of glad she had layed there in the living room and enjoyed the foreplay and had not attempted to grab my dick. I was happy to enjoy her body and her feeling my size would be a real danger to my happiness in my mind. Her great body and my insecurity combined to cause me to go on and on with foreplay. I was delaying the moment of truth and hadn’t even taken all my clothes off yet. But one thing I did have going for me was I was so turned on by her body I was as rock hard as can be. She gets on her knees and and is so hot from the foreplay she’s saying in heated breath as I was about to enter her “This is what I wanted, this is what I wanted”. After I entered her I thought for a moment I could feel her try to grasp my dick but then that slight sensation was gone. The down side is I was so turned on by her body and had been for the entire time of foreplay, when it came time for intercourse I begin to feel like I wasn’t going to last and after about a minute it was over. She had been quiet the entire time I was pumping and when I finished she got straight up out of the bed and stared at me. I told her I didn’t usually have a problem with being quick, and that it was because she had me so turned on. She continued to just look at me as I spoke. I couldn’t make up my mind if she was disappointed with my size, time, or both. I told her I wouldn’t have any trouble if we did it again, but she showed no interest and wouldn’t even speak to me. We parted ways minutes later. I spotted her in a crowded nightclub a few months later and I know she must have seen me when she was nearby a couple of times. I didn’t seem to exist to her as far as I could tell.

The other amazon woman told me I was very good at foreplay. I had only done foreplay with her for about 10-15 minutes perhaps. Intercourse had lasted about 20 minutes with her, and I had gotten a couple of sounds from her, so I thought I had done good perhaps. I was really disappointed when she brought up the foreplay and said that was my “forte”. She was clearly trying to be complementary, but I took it as an indirect meaning that I wasn’t big enough to be great in intercourse. I knew all about rhythm, grinding, stroking, but it just didn’t seem to help. I couldn’t really feel anything.

The list can go on and on as to why I am insecure about my size, even now after I’ve gained. At 7 1/8 bpel x 4 3/4 mid x 5 base I do feel better about myself, but I also still feel like I have a long way to go before I am comfortable about it. Though my girth is still a bit weak, I can call myself average now. My length is actually now on the high side of average and I’ve gotten a few “Oh” from my wife with this size.


Last edited by beenthere : 09-13-2004 at .

Wow! Thanks a million for all these great posts. I grew up with a short skinny dick and got my share of embarrassing moments. The emotional scars run deep, and I am truly motivated now to keep PE’ing and get that confidence level we all want. I am 50 now, but the things that happened so many years ago still haunt me. Thanks for posting and thank you Thunder’s Place!

Beenthere,

That was quite a story and I have been there too. I also have gained since then and sex is so much better. Try Ulis for girth. It has been working for me. I started at 4 1/2 EG and am now 5 1/4. My length is about 1 and 1/2 inches greater than it was…and it makes a difference. Thank God I discovered Thunders.

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