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Importance of rest days

Why don’t one of you fellas with time post to BIB on his hanging website and ask him the importance of rest periods while hanging or stretching. Any man who went from six inches to ten and three quarters and who is a legend in P E should be an expert. He is a great guy and answers all questions on his website. I miss his guidance on this website. His answer should be dispositive of this question once and for all.

My post keep getting deleted from this site not sure why.I posted on here a couple of days ago and it gone.It’s ok to disagree with me but deleting my post is kind of getting annoying. Love this site and the people on here but this is like the 5th long post that has disappeared from here if Thunder could look in to this I would appreciate it.I didn’t say any thing that was about gays or any race didn’t call anyone a name didn’t use bad language just my view on the penis rest day theory was different then some other peoples.not sure if anyone saw the post if you did chime in and let me now how long it stayed on here I haven’t been here in a couple of days.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

Originally Posted by marinera
if you cause tears (even micro-tears) and you don’t give to your body time for repair them, the tears will remain there. If you add new tears, you’ll end with an injury. Pretty simple.


Instead of arguing about bullshit maybe we can find some common ground. You made this statement about micro-tears. Can we both agree that elongation of the collagenous fibers of the ligaments and tunica are through micro-tears? And, that the soft tissue (like skin) is elongated by an entirely different process?

If we can both agree that elongation of the tunica takes place through the process of micro-tears then wouldn’t it make sense to you that the elongation is in fact actually taking place during your hanging set and not from growth during rest periods afterwards? Furthermore, isn’t the reason hangers often strap on an extension device after their sets is in order to facilitate ‘healing in the extended state’? If that’s so then wouldn’t it make sense that the healing process begins immediately after the damage occurs and doesn’t necessitate days of rest?

Maybe, just maybe if we can see eye to eye on whether or not collagenous tissue grows during rest or instead heals, then maybe, just maybe we can come to a consensus as to just how much time is necessary for sufficient healing to take place between sessions.

When I’m at the gym I’m using weights in exercising my muscles. I’m not exercising my dick when hanging weights; I’m doing hanging sets as part of a session or routine.

When I’m exercising my muscles at the gym I do not hit the same body part day in and day out. I give it rest days in order for recovery and growth. PE and bodybuilding may both incorporate weights, but they are in no way shape or form the same thing.

Originally Posted by marinera
You’ve read well :) .


Keep reading my friend. I think you may find that Bib still hung sets in the evening after his family went to bed on the weekends. He further explained that such a drastic reduction in his routine on the weekend was ‘like’ rest. He has further stated that he rarely took days off.


Then (4.5 nbpel x 4.75 mseg)

Now (5.625 nbpel, x 5.25 mseg)

Here is the short version of my post when it comes to rest days in my opinion they are only there to hinder you from getting injured and and not getting a negative P.I. .

Here is why I think this. When doing jelqing and clamping large amounts of blood are forced through the veins and soft tissue of the penis at higher pressure rates then normal. This could cause you to hurt your self if you don’t give some rest days the body may need a day or two to repair what you have damaged.

We see this in the form of negative P.I. When we over work with clamping and jelqing and pumping or hang large amounts of weight from the penis, but this happens less with hanging I think.

As for stretching we hardly ever here any one say I have used my all day stretcher and that’s all and have gotten a negative P.I.negative P.I. Is the body’s response to trying to shut down the penis to allow the healing proses from an injury.we see this in the body when a limb is injured the body will shut down the never impulses so that further injury will not accrue.My theory on the negative P.I. It’s not a fact but it makes sense.the body will react the same way to certain things ie an injury it the body way of keeping thing working.responses to tissue in the medical field are where we are drawing most of are ideas from.

As for not believing that leg lengthening is the same a penile lengthening. I find the reasons against it to hold no or very little weight.just because medical tissue lengthening doesn’t fall into your idea on how the body work make little sense to me.If some one tells me they think working out legs 2 days in a row gives them better growth,I don’t listen to it because I know that science and real word results prove differently.

1.the penis and the leg share many of the same tissues they both have veins skin tissue facial tissue witch is most like the tunica I have actually seen it called facial tissue in a medical diagram.I would have to find it though.

When it comes to the bone.This is how bone grows during the tractive proses.they break the bone and the the broken bone forms soft bone tissue in the broken space this tissue stays soft through out the tractive proses.growth happens during the tractive proses not after.let me say that one more time growth happens during the tractive prose not after.the body must make more of all of the body’s tissue even more tissue than is in the penis because actual muscle bone and artery’s and veins must be made.so give me the real medical reason why the penis wouldn’t grow from traction. There is none. Medical traction of any of you appendages is a fact that works for any one who has it done to them.

As for the ear not being like the penis I agree with this but who’s talking about the ear we are talking about complex tissue lengthening.

Contractile muscle needs rest days for many diffident reasons then why we think the penis needs rest day. Clearing of lactic acid from the use of glycogen to ATP for fuel.Muscle tissue doesn’t really grow it just expands and get bigger from working out but with out diet you will never get big this is untrue with the penis.you never here guys say my diet is why my penis got big.

Hormones also play a large part in muscle growth. This is only seen during puberty for penis growth.This would lead us to believe that one are gens turns on and to allow the hormones to play there part in the growth of the penis during puberty’s and then it shuts off.this is how we grow in the womb.
Hormones I think can help with healing time they are used on burn patients to increase cell growth of skin tissue.

Ok may be not to short. Lets see if this post stays up here you can disagree with me that is fine. Everyone should be entitled to there own opinion and every one should be able see it and make up there own mind.

So just so I am clear I believe in rest days just not for traction but for manuals like jelqing clamping and pumping yes.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

I am with you Dick builder.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

Not really on topic. But if you check bib’s site it doesn’t post any affiliation with this site or make any reference to it (forums NOT included)
I never got what happened with him and this place. Read his last posts but they don’t say too much.

I think I am in Dick Builder’s camp as far as PE theory goes also.

Dick builder marinera theory on micro tears is wrong so that is way he can’t agree with you or me or others on this topic.He believes that the micro tears in the penis heal like the micro tears in contractile muscle and they do not.

Cell splitting as we know it happens very little in muscle mass it is called hyperplasia the definition is this.An increase in number of cells in the tissue or organ excluding tumor formation, whereby bulk of the part or organ maybe increased. This is when the body makes more actual muscle fibrils.This type of growth is what happens in the penis or leg lengthening and is most like cell mitosis the formation of totally new cells.

Hypertrophy is the increase in cross sectional size of the muscle in response to strength train as listed in my ISSA course book.

The penis has soft muscle tissue in like the heart. No contractile muscle is in the penis so you see he is using the theory on how muscle grow and need rest days to heal when he should be looking at how cells divide like in hyperplaia which happen in the formation of totally new tissue.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

Originally Posted by diesel220
Dick builder marinera theory on micro tears is wrong so that is way he can’t agree with you or me or others on this topic.He believes that the micro tears in the penis heal like the micro tears in contractile muscle and they do not.

Cell splitting as we know it happens very little in muscle mass it is called hyperplasia the definition is this.An increase in number of cells in the tissue or organ excluding tumor formation, whereby bulk of the part or organ maybe increased. This is when the body makes more actual muscle fibrils.This type of growth is what happens in the penis or leg lengthening and is most like cell mitosis the formation of totally new cells.

Hypertrophy is the increase in cross sectional size of the muscle in response to strength train as listed in my ISSA course book.

The penis has soft muscle tissue in like the heart. No contractile muscle is in the penis so you see he is using the theory on how muscle grow and need rest days to heal when he should be looking at how cells divide like in hyperplaia which happen in the formation of totally new tissue.


I agree. That’s why I try to not use body building terminology in reference to my PE endeavors – it adds to the confusion. I’m not performing an ‘exercise’ when I’m pulling on my dick. And, my dick doesn’t ‘grow’ afterwards like my muscles do in response to weight training.

As you’ve pointed out, the biology behind enlarging our penises is worlds apart from enlarging our muscles. Furthermore, the biology and techniques utilized in lengthening collagenous tissue are different from soft tissue, like skin. For instance, I’m not creating micro-tears through plastic deformation when in the skin stretching phase of my routine, like I am when hanging for gains in the tunica.


Then (4.5 nbpel x 4.75 mseg)

Now (5.625 nbpel, x 5.25 mseg)

Me and marinera got into this on the TGC theory thread and it went on for much to long.I didn’t want to go into how muscle work and how they differ from soft tissue because that was not the thread to talk about that but this thread is about the need for rest days and people always are talking about how your muscle grow when they rest so the same should hold true for the penis.

This never made any sense to me since they are nothing alike as we have talked about. When soft tissue grows it stay that way like if you have an enlarged heart it doesn’t go back to it’s former size.

When muscle grow they will shrink back to there old size if you stop working out.Some one who rows 2 inch’s in penis length doesn’t go back to there old penis size because they stopped PE there might be some retraction from ligs and tendons tightening up because that is what they are there for as an anchor point from one part of the body to another.

He most likely will say were is the proof that his favorite thing to say. There’s no proof on any PE since there have never been any medical studies done on it.It’s just an easy way to disagree with use to make you look like you pulled your idea out of the air.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

diesel,

I can “see” every post that a member has made (that actually got posted completely) and I don’t see any deleted posts with your name on them. Are you checking to make sure that your posts show up after you hit the post reply button?


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Yes I wrote the post then waited for it to come up to see if it was on there it was up but maybe just a glitch in the system not sure but then again it could be my error it was along post that’s was what kind of frustrating it came up on the second page if I do remember correctly as the first post.

It has happened before but this is just the first time I have said anything.I like to re read my posts because of this to make sure they are up and make sure they sound right, some people had trouble following my first posts when I first started posting on here. I just thought I would bring it to your attention.

You got it Thunderss we will relax on this thread.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

OK, thanks for the info diesel. If you click the profile button in one of your posts diesel, then on the left of your profile page there is a link that will list all of your posts. When you have the time will you do that to see if your missing posts might be in another thread please?

Maybe we have a software problem. Anybody else missing posts?


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Thank for your quick responses on this I will make sure to triple check my posts and if it happens again I will let you know.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

Originally Posted by Dick Builder
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If we can both agree that elongation of the tunica takes place through the process of micro-tears then would’n’t it make sense to you that the elongation is in fact actually taking place during your hanging set and not from growth during rest periods afterwards?

It’s a non-sequitur.
When hanging, you’re causing a relatively high damage in penile tissues; it can’t grow while you’re hanging. The growth happens when you rest. Think to stretching: how much growth could happen in so little time (10 minutes, for the newbies)? You’re causing tears to your penis and allowing him to recover. In plus, on average, after 2 days of stretching a day of rest is added. How could newbies get growth that way, if your theory were true?

Originally Posted by Dick Builder

Furthermore, isn’t the reason hangers often strap on an extension device after their sets is in order to facilitate ‘healing in the extended state’? If that’s so then wouldn’t it make sense that the healing process begins immediately after the damage occurs and doesn’t necessitate days of rest?

You are countradicting what you said: if growth happened in the hanging time, there is no need of
“healing in the extended state”. And you’re supposing that what (many) hangers are doing is right: this is the point you have to demonstrate :) .Finally, you are supposing that extenders don’t cause micro-tears. This is false: how could guys getting gains wearing only an extender as PE-work?

But the core-point come here: I have always said that if you apply a very light tension to your penis, tears are so minimal that the healing process can happens (at least partially) while other microtears are forming.

Originally Posted by Dick Builder
Maybe, just maybe if we can see eye to eye on whether or not collagenous tissue grows during rest or instead heals, then maybe, just maybe we can come to a consensus as to just how much time is necessary for sufficient healing to take place between sessions.

I’ve never heard of somebody that, just after a good stretching/hanging session, has seen is penis bigger. I’ve read of many men that, after some days of rest, even a week or two, from hard PE, did find their penis bigger. You can judge from yourself what believing is supported, here.

Originally Posted by Dick Builder

PE and bodybuilding may both incorporate weights, but they are in no way shape or form the same thing.



I’ve never said that PE = BB; which moderator said that they are analogous things?

You see now my point: light tension, in PE, could not require rest-days; you have to think at this process more in terms of “remodeling” than causing tears and make them heal.

Adversely, hard work, like hanging/stretching/clamping, requires rest days. Growth is the result of time under tension, or time at a given length, in both cases. If you add rest days, growth is not reduced so much; if you don’t add rest days, you’re causing an accumulation of tears: the ability of your bodypart to adapt is surpassed, and you get:

1) stopping gains;

if you persist, you get:

2) injuries.

So, what would be wiser?


Last edited by marinera : 05-16-2008 at .
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