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I'm looking at surgery options

I’ve heard theres lengthening and girth surgeries that are very safe these days. I guess the surgery can lengthen you from 1 - 2 inches and the girth can increase up to 30%. Can anyone here varify this?

Anyone know of any good doctors on the west coast? How much would it cost for these surgeries?

Any info on PE surgery would be great,

Thanks

Use the search function and read all the threads on surgery here, especially - 8-Ball’s surgery progress picture thread.

If you read all the threads on surgery here, I imagine you will forget about the whole idea.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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Fg beat me to it.

Penis + knife = BAD!!!


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Originally Posted by crashdummie
I’ve heard theres lengthening and girth surgeries that are very safe these days. I guess the surgery can lengthen you from 1 - 2 inches and the girth can increase up to 30%. Can anyone here varify this?

Anyone know of any good doctors on the west coast? How much would it cost for these surgeries?

Any info on PE surgery would be great,

Thanks


I strongly urge you to read the thread that Firegoat linked in his post. I have read the entire thing and the results are horrendous. It’s not worth the risk. Moreover, here is one of your early posts (crashdummie - The Percentage Thing?):

Originally Posted by crashdummie
also, my erect penis is 7.25x5.25 and i get alot of compliments like its perfect and a very nice size and i believe them too by watching their eyes. so i would have to say anything over 7x5 is very nice to them.


Why would you feel the need to get surgery when you are already big?

In terms of my fear factor:

Manual PE—> Hanging ————-> Clamping —> Chemical PE ———————————————————————> PE Surgery

Good luck, I couldn’t do it. Too scared.


6 X 5(Jun 2002) ----> 8 7/8 X 6 (OCt 2009) -----> 9.75 X 6.0 (Goal)

'I think you will find that the one thing all big gainers have in common is tenacity.' ~Bib

Originally Posted by xtremegamer
In terms of my fear factor:

Manual PE—> Hanging ————-> Clamping —> Chemical PE ———————————————————————> PE Surgery

Good luck, I couldn’t do it. Too scared.


Good! You have a good thing going. Don’t screw it up.

I can certainly understand why small guys consider surgery. What I find baffling is why big guys sign up for this. They’re already at a size that would drive most women nuts. Why risk destroying that to get an extra inch? And that’s under the big assumption that the surgery works as planned. The idiot from the video in Penis Insecurity by men video is a perfect example. He goes ahead with surgery despite being 7” EL x 6” EG. That’s just insane.

Originally Posted by Invisible
Good! You have a good thing going. Don’t screw it up.

I can certainly understand why small guys consider surgery. What I find baffling is why big guys sign up for this. They’re already at a size that would drive most women nuts. Why risk destroying that to get an extra inch? And that’s under the big assumption that the surgery works as planned. The idiot from the video in Penis Insecurity by men video is a perfect example. He goes ahead with surgery despite being 7” EL x 6” EG. That’s just insane.

Exactly. It is a cost-benefit analysis. For anybody that size, it is completely not worth the risk.


6 X 5(Jun 2002) ----> 8 7/8 X 6 (OCt 2009) -----> 9.75 X 6.0 (Goal)

'I think you will find that the one thing all big gainers have in common is tenacity.' ~Bib

Originally Posted by crashdummie
I’ve heard theres lengthening and girth surgeries that are very safe these days. I guess the surgery can lengthen you from 1 - 2 inches and the girth can increase up to 30%. Can anyone here varify this?

Anyone know of any good doctors on the west coast? How much would it cost for these surgeries?

Any info on PE surgery would be great,

Thanks


I have had 5 surgeries from 4 different doctors, all in southern California. The original thread linked earlier in this thread is mine. Penis surgery is very risky even when you have one of the “good” doctors operating on you. If you go to one of the “bad” doctors, as I did the first time around, it’s about on the level of paying 10-15k just to play Russian Roullette with your dick…with 5 bullets in the chamber. Luckily I was able to regain my size from the reconstructions, but I’ve spent over 30k and have nothing to show for it except for a scar.

Length absolutely, positively can not be guaranteed. One inch gain would be a very successful result. Many gain less than that or even lose length (8-Ball raises hand). Girth is a little more predictable and yes, 30% wouldn’t be uncommon, although sometimes the grafts cna get infected and need to be removed, so it’s all a big crap shoot under even the most optimal conditions.

In terms of doctors, DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER GARY RHEINSCHILD!!! I can’t stress this enough. Any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask me. I ended up OK after the whole ordeal, which is better than many people who went through what I went through. It has been a wild ride my friend.


"If you can conceive it, and you can believe it...then you can achieve it."

Formerly known as Gandolf

I dream with a bigger phallus but I would NEVER consider any of the current surgery procedures.


Present: 8.75" BPEL, 9.25" BPSFL, 5.3" EG

Goal: 1' BPEL, 6.5" EG

Originally Posted by 8-Ball
I have had 5 surgeries from 4 different doctors, all in southern California. The original thread linked earlier in this thread is mine. Penis surgery is very risky even when you have one of the “good” doctors operating on you. If you go to one of the “bad” doctors, as I did the first time around, it’s about on the level of paying 10-15k just to play Russian Roullette with your dick…with 5 bullets in the chamber. Luckily I was able to regain my size from the reconstructions, but I’ve spent over 30k and have nothing to show for it except for a scar.

Length absolutely, positively can not be guaranteed. One inch gain would be a very successful result. Many gain less than that or even lose length (8-Ball raises hand). Girth is a little more predictable and yes, 30% wouldn’t be uncommon, although sometimes the grafts cna get infected and need to be removed, so it’s all a big crap shoot under even the most optimal conditions.

In terms of doctors, DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER GARY RHEINSCHILD!!! I can’t stress this enough. Any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask me. I ended up OK after the whole ordeal, which is better than many people who went through what I went through. It has been a wild ride my friend.

Hi 8-Ball,

Last time I heard from you, you were going to have a surgery with a DR named Echenberg (Sp?). How did this go? Apparently he uses a different technique, by which the patient where’s an extender during surgery. Personally i don’t belive surgery can increase the erect length of the penis for a large majority of patients, no matter how it is performed. There are some (maybe 10%) are anatomically rare, in that perhaps they have particuarly short ligaments which do hold the penis back, in the same way that sometimes a tight crcumcision can. These patients will gain straight away post op. But the idea that after cutting ligaments, the hidden penis is pulled out over the following months doesn’t add up to me, my surgeon (i too had the surgery) or my urologist. We belive any post op length gains come form tunica stretching and could have been achieved without the surgery. This is why I’m particuarly interested to know how your most recent surgery went.

As invisible points out:

Originally Posted by crashdummie
my erect penis is 7.25x5.25 and i get alot of compliments like its perfect and a very nice size

You have a good sized unit. Why destroy it with this dangerous and, and as far as I can tell, **bogus** surgery?

Personally I love my penis — it has given me and selected others hours of pleasure and amusement. It deserves to be treasured and taken care of, not harmed by a “plastic surgeon”.

Originally Posted by crashdummie
I’ve heard theres lengthening and girth surgeries that are very safe these days. I guess the surgery can lengthen you from 1 - 2 inches and the girth can increase up to 30%. Can anyone here varify this?

Anyone know of any good doctors on the west coast? How much would it cost for these surgeries?

Any info on PE surgery would be great,

Thanks

I think 8ball’s analogy on this thread is pretty good: Penis enlargement surgery is like playing Russian roulette with 5 chambers loaded. It’s very risky. And, from what I’ve read, the average length a person gains from PE surgery is like 1 to 2 cm. For all the risks that come with PE surgery - such as permanent impotence, scar tissue, penile retration, and mis-shaping deformation, all cases being not too uncommon, plus various other risks - is it really worth a mere centimeter or two?

Why not be less risky and do the exercises provided on ThundersPlace? Many members here, myself included, can testify that these exercises work in increasing penis-size. Sure, there are risks with jelqing, stretching and ADS, but compared to the risks associated with PE surgery, the latter is a much more prudent choice than the former. Sure, you’ll have to put a lot of effort and dedication into PE excercises, but that’s just an essential part of PE.

Right. And it’s all free here.

(But consider donations if you can, please, this place is not free for ThunderSS).

Thanks everyone, It definetely seems to be the consensus that surgery is not the answer for 99% of people. DAM, I was kindov excited for that nice easy option… That video on Utube that someone posted in this thread confirms its not a good idea aswell.

I also tried the PE techniques found on here and my dick gets a bad sore… too bad for me…

Originally Posted by crashdummie
I also tried the PE techniques found on here and my dick gets a bad sore… too bad for me…

If it hurts it is too much PE.

Let me recommend that you look at a couple of lighter newbie routines. The standard thunder’s newbie routine was WAY TOO HARSH for me, so a couple guys told me to back WAY off and I started getting gains.

Here are two threads that recommend some lighter routines. Both discuss the theory behind starting with a “less is more” approach. I wish I had seen them when I started.

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NEW newbie + advanced routine

Originally Posted by J123
LINEAR ROUTINE for newbies

- Do 5 minutes warm up before and after workout and massage your penis little after you have warmed it.

- Stretching: I don’t recommend doing any stretching within the first week or two.
When you begin stretching do one 30 second pull to each direction (down, up, left, right, forward).
Within the first 2 months add max. 1 stretch (up, down..) per week, but if you feel, that it is not
necessary to add number of stretches, then don’t.

- Jelqing: Start from 10- 20 jelqs. At the beginning add for example 10 jelqs about every 3 workout, but there is no need to go over 50- 60 jelqs within the 2 or 3 weeks.
Beyond 50- 60 jelqs add 10- 20 jelqs in a week if necessary. If you seem to gain with a lower amount, then don’t increase the amount until you feel it is necessary.
At the beginning when your workouts are short it is a good idea to do workouts in a shower. It offers brilliant warmup and cleaning possibilities.

- I recommend doing this workout every other day or 2 on 1 off and giving a extra resting day whenever you feel it necessary.

Thunder’s member babbis has a great light newbie routine that many have had success with — it used to be posted here. now it is at his own PE site:

http://www.pegym.com/forums/general…g.html#post1189

Originally Posted by babbis
Remek asked me to post my beginners routine so here I am!

Warm wrap with a rice sock or a warm water towel for 10min, wet jelq 150 strokes (3 sec strokes) with a overhand OK-grip at 30-50% erection, finish off with 5 mild rotary stretches to the left and 5 to the right.

The frequency is one day on, two days off.

After 6 workouts, if the gains have slowed down dramatically, do some light manual stretches every evening before you go to bed for a week; 30sec holds SO, L, R, SD, SU and 5 rotary stretches to the left and 5 to the right. Warm wrap for 5-10 min before you do these.

After a week with this, take a break for one month and repeat exactly the same routine.

By implementing deconditioning breaks from the very beginning I believe you will get the best possible start of your PE-career.

This routine is what I consider a newbie routine. I do not believe seasoned PEers and veterans will gain from this routine because of their conditioned tissues.

If you are just taking up this special hobby and have not done any PE before, you could expect gains of 0,5-1cm in BPEL after 18 days with this routine. These numbers are not guess work, 7 people have reported gains of 1cm+ (5 people at thunders and two of my own test-subjects) in exactly 18 days till now.

Start growing!

If you read through these threads, you will see that people gain using these “less is more” routines, even though they are quite skeptical about it at first.

This might work for you.

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