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I want to start to kegel. Give me your best advices and tell me about your results!

I like it,

I’m going to give it a whirl.

I do think that sometimes my dick is running the show in many ways but I will try to kick it’s ass.

Thanks, I will keep you informed


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

Originally Posted by kdoc
Cheeva,
You said it correctly, as soon as you resume the feeling comes right back.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’m looking to prolong sex for maybe 15 - 20 minutes. You hear about guys who just keep going until they “decide” to orgasm and then they just let it happen…are you kidding me, that would be spectacular.
Again with the breathing thing. How bad is it that I don’t know if I’m breathing but be damn sure I will know the next time if I breathe.

If you are so aroused that you keep coming right back to the PONR when you resume, you can stop intercourse completely and continue to arouse your partner either orally or manually until you’ve cooled down sufficiently. Stop and start as many times as you wish. Eventually you will start to get more in touch with your arousal levels, be more comfortable staying at higher levels of arousal.

You can also just GO SLOWER, be gentle and sensual, stick with shallower strokes, when you are closer to the edge. Use your cock more like a teasing tongue than a battering ram. Trust me, she’ll love it, and she’ll be able to feel the heat of your arousal.

Originally Posted by kdoc
At that point I try to slow down a bit and think about baseball or checkers or anything as long as it is not pussy related.

I think this is a mistake, and not a real solution to gaining true mastery. Rather, I recommend getting in tune with your body’s responses. Listen and feel where you’re at. Breathe. It’s like a meditation. Be present.

Don’t mean to hijack this thread.

kdoc sounds like you are doing fine.

You don’t need to be bad to get better. It also sounds like the PE (which I’m assuming includes about 50 Kegels a day) is helping, so that’s cool.

From what you’ve posted it seems to me that you have a good awareness of where you are in relation to coming at any given time, which is the first hurdle.

It’s fine to tense up when you finally let go and come, but if you do so your way there it will help to speed your progress.

You should read up on edging; it sounds like that could possibly help you. The breathing is probably easiest (and best) to monitor while edging; even with a co-operative partner who you communicate well with, you don’t want to turn your sexual encounters into a laboratory experiment (unless you’re into that sort of thing). It’s better to experiment a bit on your own where you can really concentrate.

I assume your ultimate goal is be able to go for broke and have her go off like the 4th of July while you wait to come until you’re good and ready. That’s totally possible, but you do have to train yourself to get there.

Originally Posted by cheeva
Originally Posted by kdoc
At that point I try to slow down a bit and think about baseball or checkers or anything as long as it is not pussy related.


I think this is a mistake, and not a real solution to gaining true mastery. Rather, I recommend getting in tune with your body’s responses. Listen and feel where you’re at. Breathe. It’s like a meditation. Be present.


I’d agree.

The distraction methods only work by accident in my view, and they ultimately take away from the experience. Some people swear by them, however I think there are better ways go.

Originally Posted by cheeva
Don’t mean to hijack this thread.


You’re kidding, right?

You have good insight and a coherent way of expressing it. I, for one, am glad you’re here.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

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Thanks Guys,
Mr. H, you are correct, my ultimate goal is to be able to please until she begs and then just blow the top of her head off. I will start reading more on edging. I have hit most of the threads on here, is there one in particular that you know of that maybe I have not read.

Cheeva,
I understand what you are saying about staying in the moment and I think maybe perfecting some edging techniques I can achieve this.
Thanks again, if this works I will send you each a shiny quarter


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

I want to tell you guys that I’ve been edging for almost 10 years now, and only a week ago I found out that it’s called edging. Now, since 2 days, I am doing reversed kegels when edging. The first few reversed kegels when I was close to orgasm didn’t feel that well, but now at day 2 I am already experiencing a good feeling, the hardest dick I’ve ever had in my life, and a lot of big veins. I hope that eventually I don’t have to ‘clinch’ my body that much, because now I still have to do that since my muscle is in it’s baby-age. I can either do a reverse kegel with my belly/stomach, or via the rear. But like I said, it takes little effort to actually do (and hold) the kegel.

And kdoc, your ultimate goal is in fact also mine. I had to laugh at your way of speech though (in a positive way).
"My ultimate goal is to be able to please until she begs and then just blow the top of her head off” :D

Pepsi,

You do a reverse kegel at the critical time?? I have been trying “regular” kegels.

Damn there is a lot to learn here. I have heard of doing reverse kegel while stretching but not to keep the top on the jar.

Just to make sure I’m on topic here, edging is getting to the point of no return and then staying there for 10 or so minutes correct?

And by the way, could someone tell me how to put a smiley face in my text. I can put them as the header but not in the text.


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

Originally Posted by kdoc
Pepsi,
You do a reverse kegel at the critical time?? I have been trying “regular” kegels.
Damn there is a lot to learn here. I have heard of doing reverse kegel while stretching but not to keep the top on the jar.
Just to make sure I’m on topic here, edging is getting to the point of no return and then staying there for 10 or so minutes correct?
And by the way, could someone tell me how to put a smiley face in my text. I can put them as the header but not in the text.

The idea behind using either Kegels or reverse Kegels right before or at the PONR is to short circuit the involuntary muscle contractions that cause ejaculation. By consciously Squeezing the BC (Kegeling) and holding it, you thwart those involuntary contractions.

Reverse Kegels can accomplish the same thing, only now you are holding the “valve” (urethra) open instead of squeezing it closed, and of course also short-circuiting those involuntary BC contractions. It is also possible to combine the two, but be careful not to let voluntary contractions become involuntary!

When you use the reverse Kegel, you can still ejaculate, kind of, but without having an orgasm (pretty weird, huh?). Semen can move up into the urethra and come oozing or maybe even spurting out. But without the normal contractions of orgasm, there will not be the same sensation. It’s basically just an overflow effect.

I’d recommend sticking with the regular “super Kegel” method outlined above and discussed elsewhere in the forums, at least at first. I say this mainly because if you practice this method correctly, no (or very little) semen should enter the urethra, and it will be much easier to withhold ejaculation for as long as desired (actually indefinitely!). Whereas with the reverse kegel method, the semen will have to be expelled somehow—if not through eventual ejaculation, then it will be expelled the next time you urinate.

One final thought:

It might be helpful to try starting the “super Kegel” technique long before you reach the PONR. Let’s say totally losing it and blowing you load equals 100. Instead of waiting until you’re at 95, start tuning in, breathing, slowing down periodically, and doing prolonged Kegels (holding for maybe 3 strokes/breaths) when you’re still at like 65 or 70.

Oh, and smiley codes are down at the lower left of your browser window :)


Last edited by cheeva : 10-31-2007 at .

Cheeva,

I have actually experienced the ejaculating without orgasming thing. I did it once by accident and a second time intentionally and it is cool.

I agree with you however that the regular super kegel seem to be a bit more trust worthy in my condition.

The problem I have is that if I do a kegel, then relax a bit and then do another kegel it is good night nurse. Clean up on isle 6.

So the more I think this through, with your help, the more I think I need to work on my kegels so that I can keep the pressure without letting the involuntary spasms happen.

I so can not wait to try this out, I’m hoping wifey is up for it on Halloween night


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

I don’t see the smiley faces until I do spell check though


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

At the bottom of the posts, there is something called ‘Posting Rules’.
There you’ll see ‘vB code is ON’, ‘smilies are ON’ etc.
Just press ‘Smilies’ and a new tab or window will open with all the smiley codes. ;)

Oh, and to answer your question; I am doing reversed kegels when I am about to come, yes. It also makes my head (glans) quite big. The only minor thing about it is that if I do it too intensively, I get a headache.

I will deal with the headaches for a while if I can pull this off :)


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

Thank you pepsi,

I thought you selected a smile from a list. I did not know that you typed it… I guess I don’t get the internet lingo yet.


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

Pepsi,

Are you able to keep pumping while reverse kegeling and not have an orgasm or do you stop for some time while you “rest”


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

By pumping, do you mean the actual pumping with a penis pump? If so, I don’t do that at all, I don’t even have a pump.

And I didn’t say that it completely lets me control my orgasm, I only meant that when I am about to come or had to come but edged it, if I do one long reversed kegel then, my orgasm only vanishes a little bit. When I try to edge again, the PONR usually returns after about 30 seconds of stroking. Sometimes it’s there quicker, sometimes it takes longer. Maybe that depends on the power of the kegel? But after all, I’m only doing this ‘technique’ for 2 days, so time will tell. And in my honest opinion, I think it’ll help me to gain control, perhaps not full control but still.

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