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Jelqing: Ancient Secret or Hoax?

Secret Longings

By Martin Downs
WebMD Feature Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD

The pursuit of penis enlargement is as old as the quest for a baldness cure. With surgery and drugs, modern medicine is finally making progress on both fronts, but medical solutions can be expensive, and they often yield less than miraculous results. So men continue to be wooed by “natural” potions and schemes that promise quick growth up top, and down below.

A technique called jelqing has become popular among men seeking greater penis size. Web sites that promote jelqing and online clubs for jelqing enthusiasts abound: A Google search for “jelq” yields nearly 19,000 results.

Those who promote jelqing claim that it’s an “ancient Arab” technique, which lends it an exotic air — summoning images of sultry harems and Salome’s Dance of the Seven Veils. Whether the practice originates in the Middle East, however, no one WebMD contacted could say. Sex historian Vern Bullough says he has never heard of it, and queries to the Kinsey Institute and professors of Middle Eastern studies at several universities shed no more light on the matter.

There are many variations on the technique, but the basic routine involves stroking the penis with a milking motion: Starting from the base, you slide your hand up the shaft, pulling and squeezing. Then you repeat the motion. You don’t slide your hand over the head and back down the shaft as you would if you were masturbating. Instead, you stop when you reach the head, and start again from the base of the penis.

Depending on what jelqing manual you follow, you may be instructed to jelq while your penis is flaccid, in a semi-erect state, or with a full erection. Some advise you to “warm up” with hot-towel wraps. Some recommend jelqing with lubrication, while others don’t include lube. You might jelq with the palm facing up or down. Jelqing schedules and the duration of the routine often differ.

The promised results vary, too. Some hucksters say you’ll gain three to four inches in length. Other advocates are more modest.

Happy Jelqers

Thomas, a 27-year-old student in New Jersey, says he began jelqing nearly a year ago. He stands six-foot-five, but he has an average-sized penis — about six inches long. “As a taller person, I felt that I was short-changed,” he says.

So far, he’s pleased with the results. “I notice a better flaccid hang, first off,” he says. He also claims to have gained three-eighths of an inch in length and five-eighths of an inch in girth, when erect, by jelqing for 45 minutes a day for five days, then taking two days off, for six weeks at a time.

Another jelqer, a 24-year-old man who prefers to remain anonymous, claims to have had more dramatic gains since he began jelqing eight months ago. He says his penis, which measured five inches erect, is now six and one-quarter inches long.

Both men say they have never paid for jelqing information. They follow advice available for free at penis-enlargement discussion groups online. Nevertheless, some Web sites sell access to their jelqing programs for as much as $50.

Doctors Scoff

Jelqers may believe that the technique works, but they are mistaken about how. You may hear that by pushing blood into the erectile tissue of the penis, you can expand the chambers — the corpora cavernosa — so they eventually hold more blood, resulting in bigger erections. You may also hear that jelqing exercises the smooth muscle of the penis, making it bigger and stronger.

“I think that’s all bogus,” says Tom Lue, MD, professor of urology at the University of California, San Francisco. He says that only swelling, caused by bleeding under the skin, could explain the increases in penis size men like Thomas experience. This result would not be permanent, hence the need to follow a rigorous jelqing regimen indefinitely.

The idea that the smooth muscle of the penis can be exercised , like the biceps, is a myth. “Smooth muscle doesn’t respond that way,” Lue says. In fact, stretching it can be harmful. For example, the bladder is smooth muscle. According to Lue, if you hold in urine so that the bladder expands too much, the tissue weakens.

What’s more, Lue says, all the stretching, pulling, and squeezing might cause scar tissue to form in the penis, which could hinder a man’s ability to get an erection. But Thomas maintains that apart from a little soreness, he hasn’t injured his penis by jelqing, and he says his erections last longer than they did before.

“Anatomically and physiologically this is just wishful thinking,” urologist Ira Sharlip, president of the Sexual Medicine Society of North America, writes in an email. “It’s all baloney until a real study with objective before and after measurements, verified by an independent source [since you can’t do a placebo comparison], proves that it works.”

Published Dec. 23, 2002.
SOURCES: Ira Sharlip, MD, president, Sexual Medicine Society of North America; and medical director, Pan Pacific Urology, San Francisco • Tom Lue, MD, professor and vice chairman of urology, University of California, San Francisco • Vern Bullough, visiting professor, University of Southern California; and distinguished professor emeritus, State University of New York.

But I had to fire a volley of my own - this is the email I sent them:

Subject: Martin Downs article

Jelqing: Ancient Secret or Hoax?
Secret Longings
- by Martin Downs / Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD
I have no idea about any “Arabian” origins of jelqing, nor am I a medical professional; I am, however, a rational, educated, sane man - who has experienced penis enlargement.
As adamantly as you doctors reject these claims, I am equally emphatic in dismissing your (unproven) contempt.
In addition to jelqing, I have employed stretching exercises (you know, tissue traction, which has been well established in the medical community). I started this program with an erect penis that was 155-156 mm (about 6.12”) long x 132 mm (about 5.2”) girth, midshaft.
A year later, I am normally 184 mm long (7.24”) x 158 mm (6.22”) girth, midshaft. That’s an actual volume increase of about 69% (which surely cannot be dismissed as measurement error/deviation, etc.).
What I find so amusing is that you reject these claims without any studies - simply on the basis of opinion, theory, etc. Despite the plethora of men who’ve claimed significant enlargement (by the way, at the online forums I frequent - which, despite your statements to the contrary, are indeed FREE - my gains are certainly nothing spectacular).
I’d have more respect for your opinions in this area if you at least had a marginal study or two to defend your position; but, you don’t, nor will you.
As far as “scar tissue,” or “damage,” etc….pure nonsense. At 38 years of age, my erections are harder than they’ve been in 15 years - and larger than they’ve ever been.
There are no deformations of my penis, anomalies, loss of sensitivity, etc. Nothing. My penis functions perfectly, as my wife would surely attest.
If you have any professional integrity whatsoever, you would feel compelled to check out this url: /forums - instead of pushing such horrific butchery as phalloplasty.
Uh….don’t worry, it’s FREE…really.

Haha, nice.

I somehow doubt that this will at all change “their” opinions of natural PE.

Great Job, Wad!!

Let’s see their response.

On the other hand, when you look at the MD’s involved and their credentials, it did make me wonder a little. I had to look down to assure myself that it is working, indeed.

Make it huge....!

Uncut4Big / Mike

Great Response Wad!

Anytime I ever hear anything said about PE, be it in some medical context or some supposed investigative show (Penn & Teller’s Bullshit), they always say the same thing… “no permanent gains” and “there’s no known way to enlarge the penis”. What a crock.

My ex and I used to watch those things and never could understand how I could have had such good results, and yet they would continue to say it wasn’t possible. It’s like getting up on Christmas morning, seeing the presents and saying “There’s no Santa Claus!”… oh, wait… maybe it’s not like that. :)

Oh well, I guess the more guys that believe it’s not real, and the less that do PE, will mean that those of use with bigger cocks will remain hard to find and sought after. ;)


Originally - Not Bad Flaccid 5.5" x 4.5" Erect 7.75" x 5" 4 Years of PE Later - Much Better Flaccid 7" x 6" Erect 8.5" x 6.5" Pumped 9" x 7.5" (or more) Goal - Big as a roll of cookie dough! __________________ Sure, I'm no John Holmes... but I'm drinking milk!


Are you crazy those doctors are 100% right and they should keep spreading the word, PE is dangerous foolish and a waste of time. And anybody doing it”excuse me why I adjust the bib” is an ass and should seek help before they hurt themselves or someone else with this foolishness.

I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)


Loved going to Cuba! :)

I'm surprised that Americans can't go because their government says they can't!

** This newsflash just in **

The earth is, in fact, flat

We should just get yguy to send them his pics and tell them to choke on that :p

Proving yet again that doctors are schmucks.

There’s also more money in treatment than cures. You are worth more to the medical community if you are kept sick.

Here is my PROPHECY for the future:

A cure for AIDS will conveiniently be discovered only AFTER a much worse disease breaks onto the scene.

Also, if you get cancer, unless you have great insurance or half a million dollars lying around, you’re as good as dead.

Besides, if it wasn’t only abut the money and if there was no mega-million $$$ incentive to become a doctor, we’d have only like five good doctors left in the world. And on top of that, they’d be booked up the ass!

Becoming.... Godsize

Oh by the way, I liked the way you slipped in that plug for Thunder’s Place. Smooth, dude. :)

Becoming.... Godsize

Maybe in the next yearly physical, all our doctors will notice the bigger flaccid hang and girth and think to himself, “hmmm….I never thought he was hung the last time I saw him…..hmmm, idiopathic penile hypertrophy??”.

That’s the only way to convince them BUT I am more inclined for the public to keep PE a myth to keep it very special to us.

Starting: 5 BPEL x 4.5 EG on 4/19/03

Latest: 6 BPEL x 5 EG on 2/17/04

Goal: 7 BPEL x 6 EG

*whispers* ssshh. Keep it a secret. Stop telling everyone.

Needs More Power

elite 8

Yeah, why the hell should I chase after guys trying to convince them that PE works? If they don’t want to build a bigger dick, oh well.

I guess I just have some built-up anger at those assholes because I’ve been hearing their line all my life; so, maybe if they wouldn’t have pontificated so arrogantly on the subject (thus convincing me it was hopeless), I might have searched for this shit sooner - or at least started stretching on my own, which doesn’t require great imagination - but I never thought it possible (thanks to them!).

I agree. The medical community needs to stop spreading rumors about PE. They have stated themselves that no studies have been done. So who are they to say its dangerous? I believe they should do a study on it, but doubt it will ever happen. Too many doctors make bouku bucks off of Phalloplasty.

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