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Originally Posted by kingpole
Bob you may have to supplement like a 50 year old with colon cancer.You need to up your “B” vitamin complex,Zinc and vitamin “C” if you are forced to deal with loads of stress.

Get out to the gym!

71667 have you been checked for diabetes. Your diet is right on, I do the same food program you do.

Dude I know you’re a big fanatic for ginkgo and arginine.

But you shouldn’t really be advising people to be taking these herbs and what not unless you’re an herbalist or doctor.

Just because it works for you doesn’t mean it’ll do a damn thing for someone else.

As far as supplementing myself, again, I told you what I believe. It’s all BS. I take a multivitamin on most days, it has all the zinc and vitamin c a 21 y/o needs.

And I WORK AT A GYM, which I’ve already mentioned. So there goes that theory out the window.

As far as “snapping” 767, I’d agree that yea, maybe the stress I’ve been experiencing the last year have been especially extreme because I was being consistently and systematically pushed out of my home; not to mention the emotional and sometimes physical abuse by my mom (again, used to that since a kid).

I appreciate the input, but I honest don’t think anyone so far is accredited enough to advise me (unfortunately).

I really don’t know what to do. I have some BDD (Body Dysmorphia Disorder), and part of my quest for an even bigger dick is that. Going to a doctor will probably end up with him telling me that nothing’s wrong and to rest for a few weeks.

Can I do that?

I don’t know. When you’re under a lot of stress with an already naturally high sex drive it’s hard to go much farther than a week (which I’ve done before and accomplished nothing).

Personally, and I could be wrong, but I think PE is not for me. I think it hurt my dick in the long run, I think I aggravated the nerve(s).

Why do I say this?

Well because after I masturbate, the big vein on my penis is sore, and so are the sides of my dick (in addition to being firm even after becoming unerect again.)

This is why I will in all likelihood pursue getting phalloplasty. Only problem is finding a doctor near NYC, since Whitehead ain’t practicing anymore.

The one thing I might try before that would be hanging (only because even with surgery you need to hang), but again, most posters here say you need to condition your dick before you jump into that, and I’m already going through this “injury”, so who knows.

~ Ry


PE should, in my opinion, be a health thing, like brushing our teeth and working out.

Obsessing about gains will only lead to disappointment for most people. - babbis

Originally Posted by bobs3304
Dude I know you’re a big fanatic for ginkgo and arginine.

But you shouldn’t really be advising people to be taking these herbs and what not unless you’re an herbalist or doctor.

Just because it works for you doesn’t mean it’ll do a damn thing for someone else.

As far as supplementing myself, again, I told you what I believe. It’s all BS. I take a multivitamin on most days, it has all the zinc and vitamin c a 21 y/o needs.

And I WORK AT A GYM, which I’ve already mentioned. So there goes that theory out the window.

As far as “snapping” 767, I’d agree that yea, maybe the stress I’ve been experiencing the last year have been especially extreme because I was being consistently and systematically pushed out of my home; not to mention the emotional and sometimes physical abuse by my mom (again, used to that since a kid).

I appreciate the input, but I honest don’t think anyone so far is accredited enough to advise me (unfortunately).

I really don’t know what to do. I have some BDD (Body Dysmorphia Disorder), and part of my quest for an even bigger dick is that. Going to a doctor will probably end up with him telling me that nothing’s wrong and to rest for a few weeks.

Can I do that?

I don’t know. When you’re under a lot of stress with an already naturally high sex drive it’s hard to go much farther than a week (which I’ve done before and accomplished nothing).

Personally, and I could be wrong, but I think PE is not for me. I think it hurt my dick in the long run, I think I aggravated the nerve(s).

Why do I say this?

Well because after I masturbate, the big vein on my penis is sore, and so are the sides of my dick (in addition to being firm even after becoming unerect again.)

This is why I will in all likelihood pursue getting phalloplasty. Only problem is finding a doctor near NYC, since Whitehead ain’t practicing anymore.

The one thing I might try before that would be hanging (only because even with surgery you need to hang), but again, most posters here say you need to condition your dick before you jump into that, and I’m already going through this “injury”, so who knows.

~ Ry

These are food grade herbs, can be recommended by anyone, hardly think I’m anyone, I’m six years into my physicians assistant degree. Doctors come to me for advice on herbs and supplements. Some patients refuse to take medications.

For example I would not prescribe or recommend gypsum weed to anyone, it is not a food grade herb.

For that matter here are some foods great for erections and penis health.

Celery
Any kind of meat
Oatmeal
Peanut butter
Corn
Cabbage, cabbage blocks the hormone inhibin which tells your dick go become flaccid again.
Sunflower seeds
Pumpkin seeds

If you burn a vanila or lavende candle it might calm your mother down, then she won’t beat you up.
Man you are to young to be angry, you need peace in your life!


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

Originally Posted by kingpole
These are food grade herbs, can be recommended by anyone, hardly think I’m anyone, I’m six years into my physicians assistant degree. Doctors come to me for advice on herbs and supplements. Some patients refuse to take medications.

For example I would not prescribe or recommend gypsum weed to anyone, it is not a food grade herb.

For that matter here are some foods great for erections and penis health.

Celery
Any kind of meat
Oatmeal
Peanut butter
Corn
Cabbage, cabbage blocks the hormone inhibin which tells your dick go become flaccid again.
Sunflower seeds
Pumpkin seeds

If you burn a vanila or lavende candle it might calm your mother down, then she won’t beat you up.
Man you are to young to be angry, you need peace in your life!

No offense King, but in order for any of those foods to have any substantial effect on someone they would have to be seriously deficient.

Peanut butter is not gonna reverse the effects of tissue or nerve damage due to over-strenuation.

And as for burning a vanilla candle - Uh yea, I’m sure burning a candle will really calm down someone who has a severe personality disorder.

Hah, at least that was good for a laugh.


PE should, in my opinion, be a health thing, like brushing our teeth and working out.

Obsessing about gains will only lead to disappointment for most people. - babbis

Originally Posted by bobs3304
No offense King, but in order for any of those foods to have any substantial effect on someone they would have to be seriously deficient.

ED is an deficiency, a precursor to heart disease.

Peanut butter is not gonna reverse the effects of tissue or nerve damage due to over-strenuation.

And as for burning a vanilla candle - Uh yea, I’m sure burning a candle will really calm down someone who has a severe personality disorder.

Hah, at least that was good for a laugh.

Borderline personality disorder?

Over 60% of the adult male population can not get it up at one time or the other. Perhaps diet can help,

I was serious about the vanila candle, smell is a powerful stimuli affecting moods. It may work my cynical little friend. I had a Alzheimer’s patient with a personality disorder to boot for three years I took custodial care of this man. Vanila/lavender candles soothed the beast. Better yet get a incense it is safer than a candle.

So you must be a fitness trainer I assume? Then you probably know the affects of stress and anger, even fear on the body. You seem to be lashing out on us posting not so much angry post but cynical post.

Then you probably know that lunges and squats even crunches may help with erection issues. Anger,fear are vassal constrictors this would be a direct contribution to ED.

I had ED, I have hypothyroid disease and diabetes, I like you, I was very cynical at one time it nearly killed me.
Remember the word disease is two words dis and ease.

I know from experience what works for ED, diabetes and hypothyroid disease.


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

I don’t have ED man.

And no she has either Severe personality disorder or Bipolar Syndrome.

Back on topic, I can get it up perfectly manually.

The problem is my morning wood, etc.

I still don’t know why you believe little changes like candles or crunches are going to make a difference, but you’re starting to sound like that quack doctor that sells those herbal remedies.

Yes, I am angry and scared. That’s something my therapist could’ve told me (and has). When you’re running or fighting you don’t get an erection. It seems like this entire summer, and last summer as well, I’ve been “fighting” continuously, even when she’s not around it’s an internal fight because of deadlines to kick me out, and because of my BDD (which if you read up on it causes people stay homeward bound alot).

The best thing for me is to slay one beast, and work on the other.

I plan on moving out of this situation, where I can atleast control some of my destiny without the fear of being kicked out on the street, or being yelled at if I don’t do things perfectly before she comes home.

Show some compassion, eh? Just be glad you’re not going through this shit.


PE should, in my opinion, be a health thing, like brushing our teeth and working out.

Obsessing about gains will only lead to disappointment for most people. - babbis

Originally Posted by bobs3304
I don’t have ED man.

And no she has either Severe personality disorder or Bipolar Syndrome.

Back on topic, I can get it up perfectly manually.

The problem is my morning wood, etc.

I still don’t know why you believe little changes like candles or crunches are going to make a difference, but you’re starting to sound like that quack doctor that sells those herbal remedies.

Yes, I am angry and scared. That’s something my therapist could’ve told me (and has). When you’re running or fighting you don’t get an erection. It seems like this entire summer, and last summer as well, I’ve been “fighting” continuously, even when she’s not around it’s an internal fight because of deadlines to kick me out, and because of my BDD (which if you read up on it causes people stay homeward bound alot).

The best thing for me is to slay one beast, and work on the other.

I plan on moving out of this situation, where I can atleast control some of my destiny without the fear of being kicked out on the street, or being yelled at if I don’t do things perfectly before she comes home.

Show some compassion, eh? Just be glad you’re not going through this shit.

I did go through that shit.

I feel for you man!

What doctor that sells herbs and is he a real doctor?

Not getting a morning wood is no big deal.


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

Originally Posted by Formula1
Yes, blood pressure was 114 over 72 and the cholesterol number was 185. I don’t know if that was LDL or what. My doctor just always tells me that number.

That was probably your total cholesterol not bad. Blood pressure is wonderful. Eat a stack of pancakes with lots of syrup if you become bitchy you may be pre-diabetic.


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

Trust me, you may have gone through penis problems, but you haven’t gone through some of the crap I have, feel glad.

That Asian quack doctor that sells those herbal remedies. He’s been well exposed as a fraud on this site.

And while not getting morning wood may not be so bad, I want it back. And let’s not forget having BDD and a illogical insecurity about my dick.

When I was 12 or 13, I knew there were 3 things I wanted to change about myself. My nose, my chest, and my dick.

There was nothing so bad about any of them, but I knew if I did I would be happier. To this day I’ve changed 2 of the 3.

All that’s left is my dick; but it’s taken longer than expected. PE should be enjoyable, like exercise. When injuries happen without explanation, and it stops being fun and starts becoming an anxiety (again, the BDD), the only resort I can think of is Phalloplasty and/or maybe hanging (which is a mindless exercise that doesn’t require attention).

Thanks for the suggestions, but “lavender candles” and “ab work” can only do so much when you’re living with a violent imbalanced person.

Trust me.

I know better than anyone, and the only reason I’m still here is because I’ve been perhaps too focused on my insecurities and not enough on getting away from home.*

Can’t really blame me though, BDD is an all-consuming disorder.


PE should, in my opinion, be a health thing, like brushing our teeth and working out.

Obsessing about gains will only lead to disappointment for most people. - babbis

Originally Posted by 7i667
KP: no, but it’s possible. I was definitely heading there. Now I’m trying to reverse damage thats been done, and it seems to be working nicely, so no point asking leeches yet.

Great diet program 7i667, do you exercise?


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

Originally Posted by kingpole
Great diet program 7i667, do you exercise?


Thanks. Hell yeah, after 7 years of absence in weights room, I hit em hard since late june and have some nice progress.

I might even start progress thread on it, everybody seems to have one B-)

Originally Posted by aom91
This isnt medical or scientific. It is logic. People are different. Tylenol works for you but not for me, if you understand.

BTW, Everything is relative and in the eye odf the beholder. To you, having a bigger dick which cant get as hard as your smaller dick is a loss. To me, I will take it anyway.

Right, it isn’t medical or scientific; and of course not every treatment/exercise/drug works the same, or at all, for everyone. The medical and/or scientific data would be what provides the reason *why* this is so, and possibly evaluate differences on an individual basis. IF PE were a science - if medical and scientific knowledge & investigation were truly brought to bear on it, as opposed to having to rely mostly on anectodal advice - we might be able to go to a doctor and find out whether, say, jelqing would be of any benefit in our particular case (evaluating for plasticity and elasticity and who knows what else), and/or whether it would help or harm EQ. PE regimens could be tailored to individuals, saving untold hours of wasted time and effort that the current hit-or-miss / sift-through-mountains-of-contradictory-anectodal-advice method entails for a lot of us. I know this isn’t the case right now, but wouldn’t it be nice? I’m just sayin’.

What this would take would be one or more interested parties with a scientific or medical background actually making a study of PE (with funding? Don’t tell me there isn’t anyone out there who’d be willing to fund something like this!)…and it seems that with Thunder’s enormous membership, there might (just might) be someone in the ranks who will eventually step up to this, and take PE out of the stone age.

Bobs3304; I’m no doctor but I have and are experiencing the same thing you are. After being gone from PE for 15 months (I did get a nasty injury from PE) I still don’t have farly morning woods and spontaneous erections. Before they were sick, but after stretching with a ADS device I fucked my self up, probably for life (I’m 18) I now have nerve damage and I do think you also have it. It’s a typical injury in PE and often it’s permanent. The fact is only that people like me often disappear in the mist and don’t give a status report. Guess what, PE often result in permanent damages if you are a idiot about it, like I was (young)

If you take a quick look on Google you would see that there isn’t possible to cure nerve damage but there is hope in the future. There will maybe be a “gen-cure” out in 5 years which may help people with nerve damage.

Again, I don’t know what you have done, how much rest you had. But my advice is to stopp and don’t do ANY pe before returning to normal. If it isn’t normal after a year and a half, welcome to my world!

Well for me I’m 43yrs old

And thank goodness my erections are as good & as strong as they were when I was 23 with no pills needed

Either my hand & imagination or of course my partner only has to give the ideal and I’m happy to say things always still stand up for the deed

PE has been a pleasure since finding out about it and has so far it has not effected me in any neg. Way and I have only had positive results

Sure stress can add to things but then we are not machines that just turn off and on, on demand

I say a good life style of proper food & diet, exercise and rest but most important the power of the mind is a major factor in all things!

Originally Posted by woodseeker
Well for me I’m 43yrs old
And thank goodness my erections are as good & as strong as they were when I was 23 with no pills needed
Either my hand & imagination or of course my partner only has to give the ideal and I’m happy to say things always still stand up for the deed
PE has been a pleasure since finding out about it and has so far it has not effected me in any neg. Way and I have only had positive results
Sure stress can add to things but then we are not machines that just turn off and on, on demand
I say a good life style of proper food & diet, exercise and rest but most important the power of the mind is a major factor in all things!

Give us an example of a good diet? I want to compare it to mine.

What type of exercise do you do?


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

Originally Posted by muggles
How is it that some people get bettter wood from PE while others (like me) get weaker wood? There’s no doubt that PE is the cause. When I stop PE, i go back to 100% in about a week. After some real EQ problems following a harsh routine, I took a decon break (about 3 weeks) and then started up again with a less harsh routine - but even doing 75 or so jelqs a day, 4-5 days a week, with no stretching at all, decreases the quality of my erections, which frankly isn’t worth the tiny gains I’ve seen. What’s the point of having a bigger erection if you don’t get fully erect (except with lots and lots of stimulation)? It adds up to a net loss.

So…is there anyone on this forum who could bring some medical/scientific insight to bear on why different people get such different EQ effects from PE?

Muggles: It’s very simple, you’re overtraining. PE is, IMO, as healthy for your penis as running is for your heart.

But it’s only healthy if you can realize when you’re overtraining, and then take a step back accordingly. Even if you only do 10 jelqs, 1 day a week, and it causes you to have less EQ, then you’re overtraining. Everyone is different, so while 1 man can do 1000000 jelqs and not overtrain, the next can do 10 jelqs and still overtrain. Genetics has a lot to do with it. So does the frequency you have sex/masturbate, as having an erecftion is a light form of PE.

Check out sparyk’s PI thread: Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to help growth!, along with his multiple other threads he’s started about EQ and PIs. A more recent one is here: Warning! If you haven’t gotten improved erections:

My advice: Re-start out with a really really light routine. Here’s a good one: NEW newbie + advanced routine


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