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Very sad news

Hi everyone. This is my first post. I started out 20 months ago and have gone from 5 3/4 to 7 1/2 BPEL (some of this gain was no doubt due to minimizing my fat pad). I am also 6 1/2 at the base and almost 6 mid shaft. I do both hanging and pumping. But I will not be satisfied until at least 8” BPEL.. And if I get there I am sure I will want more!

Anyway, this thread started out in 2003 talking about how men should have more awareness of their penises. I agree. I also think that society should be better aware of all of this as well. Having said that, it is very sad that a mother apparently took the life of her 9 year old son because he had a small penis. Here is the story from HuffPost:



An Indonesian woman drowned her nine-year-old son in the bath, claiming she was worried that his “small penis” would affect his prospects for the future, a police spokesman said Thursday.

The 38-year-old woman from the capital Jakarta told police her son had had a small penis prior to being circumcised, but that it appeared to shrink further after the operation, police spokesman Rikwanto, who goes by one name, told AFP.

“She told police investigators that she killed him as he would have a bleak future with his small penis,” Rikwanto said.

“She drowned her son in a bathtub filled with water. She then dressed him and laid him on a bed. After that, she went to a nearby police office to report her crime.”

Rikwanto said the woman was fully conscious of what she had done, but police ordered a psychological test to assess her mental condition.

Copyright (2013) AFP. All rights reserved.



This is so tragic. It highlights how important penis size is to many cultures. Sorry for bringing this sad news with my first post but I thought it was important. I am happy to have gained as I have. PE gives us the hope that we can improve what is important to us. It is just very sad that some take such deperate measures when they feel there is no hope at all.

Last edited by Bibmeister : 03-01-2013 at .

Originally Posted by Bibmeister
Hi everyone. This is my first post. I started out 20 months ago and have gone from 5 3/4 to 7 1/2 BPEL (some of this gain was no doubt due to minimizing my fat pad). I am also 6 1/2 at the base and almost 6 mid shaft. I do both hanging and pumping. But I will not be satisfied until at least 8” BPEL.. And if I get there I am sure I will want more!

Anyway, this thread started out in 2003 talking about how men should have more awareness of their penises. I agree. I also think that society should be better aware of all of this as well. Having said that, it is very sad that a mother apparently took the life of her 9 year old son because he had a small penis. Here is the story from HuffPost:



An Indonesian woman drowned her nine-year-old son in the bath, claiming she was worried that his “small penis” would affect his prospects for the future, a police spokesman said Thursday.

The 38-year-old woman from the capital Jakarta told police her son had had a small penis prior to being circumcised, but that it appeared to shrink further after the operation, police spokesman Rikwanto, who goes by one name, told AFP.

“She told police investigators that she killed him as he would have a bleak future with his small penis,” Rikwanto said.

“She drowned her son in a bathtub filled with water. She then dressed him and laid him on a bed. After that, she went to a nearby police office to report her crime.”

Rikwanto said the woman was fully conscious of what she had done, but police ordered a psychological test to assess her mental condition.

Copyright (2013) AFP. All rights reserved.



This is so tragic. It highlights how important penis size is to many cultures. Sorry for bringing this sad news with my first post but I thought it was important. I am happy to have gained as I have. PE gives us the hope that we can improve what is important to us. It is just very sad that some take such deperate measures when they feel there is no hope at all.

Stupid bitch.

The good news is that the boy doesnt have to suffer at her hand any longer.

As you get older you learn to stay away from “news”.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Sloppy & Wet

Originally Posted by crazyant83
In general, vaginal pleasure is a function of pressure applied to the walls of the vagina. The more pressure to a limit applied to the walls increase pleasure and brings orgasms sooner than if there was less pressure. I discussed with my wife, family, and other females and this was the consensus. Also, a tighter vagina, to a limit, around a penis provides more pleasure, making you cum sooner. So, the closer you and a partners parts match the better the pleasure you will both have.

I hear ya, & it makes sense to me also, especially because you added “to a limit.” I won’t even go there…e.g. where is the limit? Ha Ha But I would suppose some women may not prefer that girth limit be reached. In fact perhaps some women even enjoy a little slop, as long as there’s obviously minimal limit of pressure on the walls. I mention this because of what I’m going to say next.

I don’t know if anyone can relate to this, but sometimes I like the pussy to be wet & a little loose. The sensation is not quite as strong as a tight pussy, however I love the slow build up, and sometimes my orgasms are even more intense.

Originally Posted by charlie dog

I don’t know if anyone can relate to this, but sometimes I like the pussy to be wet & a little loose. The sensation is not quite as strong as a tight pussy, however I love the slow build up, and sometimes my orgasms are even more intense.


Yes, variety is nice. And if it is a little loose you can last longer and have more fun, pull hair, bend her legs & arms, whatever. It is nice not being forced to cum in such a short time from the start of penetration.

But pussy is generally wet, I think we all like that. Dry pussy, or barely wet pussy equals chafing. I think no one likes being chafed.

Originally Posted by crazyant83
But pussy is generally wet, I think we all like that. Dry pussy, or barely wet pussy equals chafing. I think no one likes being chafed.

Yes, I totally agree, but not TOO wet! Not when it dripping all over the place and leaves a big puddle on the bed. ;)

Originally Posted by charlie dog

Yes, I totally agree, but not TOO wet! Not when it dripping all over the place and leaves a big puddle on the bed. ;)

When that happens I just put a towel over the wet spot, no one likes to sleep in that. Unless it is a hot summers day, lol. If you think about it, it is just as annoying as your own cum, it leaves wet spots, it gets everywhere and cleanup is a pain, hopefully none of it got in your own hair, forget her hair.

Originally Posted by charlie dog
Yes, I totally agree, but not TOO wet! Not when it dripping all over the place and leaves a big puddle on the bed. ;)

I’m down for that. I love the squirters.


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Current [(AUG'10) 7 x 5.25] [(OCT'10) 7.25 x 5.3] [(OCT'12) 7.5 x 5.5]

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Originally Posted by crazyant83
When that happens I just put a towel over the wet spot, no one likes to sleep in that. Unless it is a hot summers day, lol. If you think about it, it is just as annoying as your own cum, it leaves wet spots, it gets everywhere and cleanup is a pain, hopefully none of it got in your own hair, forget her hair.

Now I know why you call yourself crazy(ant83). LOL

P.S. I let her clean up the cum HA HA!

Originally Posted by tootyfisty
I’m down for that. I love the squirters.

I was just talking about girls that get super WET. I love the squirters also. When she squirts, I know I have done my job to completion & to her complete satisfaction :)

I think my girlfriend squirted a little bit last time she came while I was licking her. Just a little, but there was definitely a sudden increase in wetness. Makes me think that maybe most or all women are squirters to an extent, it’s just that only some of them produce enough and with sufficient force for it to be noticeable during the general excitement of sex/orgasm.

More research needed. I am, if nothing else, selflessly devoted to science. *limbers up tongue*

Originally Posted by wibble
I think my girlfriend squirted a little bit last time she came while I was licking her. Just a little, but there was definitely a sudden increase in wetness. Makes me think that maybe most or all women are squirters to an extent, it’s just that only some of them produce enough and with sufficient force for it to be noticeable during the general excitement of sex/orgasm.

More research needed. I am, if nothing else, selflessly devoted to science. *limbers up tongue*

All women ‘can’ but the vast majority don’t know ‘how’ to. My gf is in her early 40’s and had never squirted before until me. She gets super, super wet, which she attributes to her arousal/desire for me and her body ‘knowing’ that it needs to for my size, which she says is one of the big reasons she squirts now (because of my girth, I can hit those ‘spots’).

She’s an RN so she knows all of the mechanics behind it, but the first time I made her squirt, she kinda freaked out. She says that it feels like a strong urge to pee, but she knows it’s not - and the trick is getting her body/mind in sync to know the difference. And that’s the part she says most women have to understand about their bodies. She said once she learned to ‘relax that sensation,’ it was on. Now she squirts every time we have sex. She jokes all the time about how I’ve ‘released the dam’ and how big of a mess we make. With as much as she squirts and as much as I can cum, we often make really big messes ;)


Starting stats: 7.5" BPEL x 6.2" MEG

Current Stats BPEL: 8.2" [NBPEL: 7.6"] EG: 6.8" - Goal: 9x7 and beyond

My Progress Thread/Log

Originally Posted by monstermandingo
With as much as she squirts and as much as I can cum, we often make really big messes ;)

I hope you have a super absorbent mattress pad. HA HA

I apologize for getting this thread off topic. It seems that the term “well-endowed” is not defined in inches, but by people’s perceptions. If a gal had various partners averaging 5 X 4.75”, a 6.25 X 5.25 endowed man would be considered well-endowed in her mind. Perhaps well-endowed is better defined as someone with dimensions that is larger by some percentage than the average or mean.

The question I wonder now is, but by what percentage bigger than the high end of the average? 10% 15% 20%???

Originally Posted by charlie dog
I hope you have a super absorbent mattress pad. HA HA

I apologize for getting this thread off topic. It seems that the term “well-endowed” is not defined in inches, but by people’s perceptions. If a gal had various partners averaging 5 X 4.75”, a 6.25 X 5.25 endowed man would be considered well-endowed in her mind. Perhaps well-endowed is better defined as someone with dimensions that is larger by some percentage than the average or mean.

The question I wonder now is, but by what percentage bigger than the high end of the average? 10% 15% 20%??

All of our perceptions are comparative.

If your new girl has only ever had six and you show up with seven, she’s going to have a different response than to another six.

Same with a girl who’s only had five and is now seeing six.

Culturally we are now all fucked because girls have all seen ten and believe they’ve had nine.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by a-unit
Culturally we are now all fucked because girls have all seen ten and believe they’ve had nine.

Just because women have seen 10 & had 9, does not mean that’s their optimal preference. Yeah, maybe 9” is more impressive looking & all, but if given the choice, might they prefer someone 7-8” (or >6’ish) & might they prefer that it’s not too thick (not >6-6.5”)? I’m sure most of us have read some of womens’ surveys about penis size preferences. We’ve also seen that penis preference chart which I believe is a complete hoax. Based on what I’ve read, only the minority like small or really large/huge, and the majority (about 80%) prefer around 6 - 8” with some girth (>5 or so). I think this may be why many of us have been after 8X6, because it’s big, it’s impressive, it’s larger than most, but it’s not huge, and can satisfy the majority of women. Even a size queen might say, “Well, as long as it’s at least 8” & thick.” I read here recently that one of our members said that he couldn’t stop PE’ing after he reached his goal, and ended up being too big. He now wishes he would have stopped PE’ing earlier.

I should make distinctions here.

What is real is what we are given and what many here are able to effect positively.

What is symbolic is what penises mean culturally, etc.

And what is fantasy is that which is amplified, distorted and edited.

What works in real terms is most men’s penises the way they naturally are.

What is symbolic is what penises represent and why we need a big one. Much like a flash car, or a Rolex.

In fantasy terms, for men, unless you are homosexual it is virtually meaningless and probably something we should leave for her consumption because, like in the twilight movie that I sat through out of obligation, we can’t give 50 MPH flying piggybacks.

So, in conclusion, getting caught up in matching her symbolic or fantasy representations of penis size does nothing but set one up for failure.

My thanks to Sigmund Freud and Jacques lacan, and more recently Slavoj Zizek for all that, and my sincere apologies to readers who may gave nodded off.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

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