The only way I’ve made gains at all is by being aggressive. I did PE for a couple months about 2 yrs. Ago & made no progress other than erection gain & gave up. Then upon finding another site & finally gaining membership to this one ( they don’t take new members for a while!) & really putting effort, I’ve made gains finally. Now that I’m conditioned, wet jelqs at almost full erection seem to be the thing that really works the shaft, & it only heightens my erection level later. The best is the 2 handed, clamping the shaft at the base with one hand & jelqing with the other, immediately grabbing the base with the jelqing hand & repeating, you can see & FEEL the blood being concentrated in the shaft. Man, my wang feels strong after those!