Here it goes... Counter-LOT Theory (?)

Ok! Now before i start i would like to make clear that i’m not trying diss anybody, especially not Bib! i just thought i’d share my thoughts with ya’ll…

Those who have made big gains have low LOTs. Those who can potentially have big gains have high LOTs. Those who cannot gain anymore from lig-stretching have low LOTs.

Could it be that those who have strong pc muscle’s are those same guys with low LOTs??? That would mean that those who have a weak pc muscle can gain more from lig-stretching (like DLD said). So those who “cannot gain anymore from lig-stretching”, could it be that these are simpley guys with weak pc muscle’s? i didn’t see that noted.

i would write more, but i gotta go!!

please reply, i hope i’m wrong.

Hi

I definitely dont know, thats a question for Bib.
But i was wondering how it couldnt be possible for someone who starts his PE career with a low lot, (lets say 6) can gain anything??

Dont every man have atleast 1 inch inner penis to stretch out, just only diffrently hard to achieve it? It just dont seem reasonable that someone has 3+ inches inner penis to stretch out while another have nothing at all to stretch out. I just cant get it

//BigSwe

I think you just contradicted yourself with these two sentences. Or was it just a typo?

Either way, I’m not sure if the strength of the PC muscle has anything to do with it, because most PEers incorporate PC work into their PE routine. So if you factor out the strength of the PC muscle, it has to do with how short, tight, or high the ligs are. DLD Blasters work by pre-exhausting the PC muscle, not by using it’s inherent weakness.

j4m,

>Could it be that those who have strong pc muscle’s are those same guys with low LOTs??? That would mean that those who have a weak pc muscle can gain more from lig-stretching (like DLD said). So those who “cannot gain anymore from lig-stretching”, could it be that these are simpley guys with weak pc muscle’s? i didn’t see that noted. <

Err, yeah this pretty much contradicts itself.

But no, the strength of you PC muscle has nothing to do with the LOT theory. Go read the thread about DLD blasters and LOT theory. I cant even remember the proper title but it should still be near the front.

BigSwede,

>Dont every man have atleast 1 inch inner penis to stretch out, just only diffrently hard to achieve it? It just dont seem reasonable that someone has 3+ inches inner penis to stretch out while another have nothing at all to stretch out. I just cant get it<

Yeah every man has inner penis to stretch out, but some men have naturally long ligs, and the longer the ligs are, the less potential there is for growth. That just makes sense, doesnt it?

SS4

I have a low LOT, it’s somewhere around 7:00, but when I do lig stretches I can feel with my free hand, and I feel what seems like ligs having the hell stretched out of them. For example, when I’m stretching my tunica I can feel my tool and I feel the tissue inside my penis being stretched. When I do a lig stretch and I reach down and feel, I can locate these wire like things that run from the base of my shaft and vanishes somewhere mid-shaft. The harder I pull, the tighter those wire like structures are. The only thing I can think of them being is ligs, and if that’s what they are, they’re definitely getting one hell of a stretch. This is the only thing that throws doubt into what I see as something that could very well be the most significant breakthrough in recent PE history: the LOT theory.

I’m saying the weaker the pc muscle to support the ligs the easier to make gains lig stretching. those dudes with weak pc muscles can make more gains with lig stretching. SO those with strong pc’s have a low LOT because the muscle is strong enough to create tugback. those with weaker pc’s will experience LOT at a higher point, cause the muscle isn’t strong enough to create tugback.

The problem with that is that by understanding the PC muscle and kegeling/reverse kegeling as in DLD blasters, you are fatiguing and nullifying the effects of the PC muscle, no matter how strong it is.

If we were still in the days of straight up manual stretching, that might be more of a factor.

So it seems that there is something else at work, or at least responsible for tugback than a strong PC muscle.

fauven,

Yes the ligs will take stress when pulling down, no matter what your LOT is. And yes they will get sore, but the longer they are the more stress the tunica will be taking, to the point where gains from this angle will likely come from tunica stretching, so you would be better off just working the upper angles. I do believe that you can make some gains from downward stretching with a LOT of 7, but I dont know how much, and I dont know if the divide in stress from ligs to tunica would mean that it takes longer to gain from lig stretching in this manner than it would from tunica stretching, but I strongly think this would be so.

j4m,

>I’m saying the weaker the pc muscle to support the ligs the easier to make gains lig stretching. those dudes with weak pc muscles can make more gains with lig stretching. SO those with strong pc’s have a low LOT because the muscle is strong enough to create tugback. those with weaker pc’s will experience LOT at a higher point, cause the muscle isn’t strong enough to create tugback.<

I do not think that dudes with weak pc muscles can make more gains from lig stretching, because the reflex action of the PC can be avoided by doing a RK (is it a RK, or an RK??). I do think that some people with weak PC muscles could get a ‘false’ LOT though.

SS4

SS4,

I wonder, if a person with long ligs stretches his tunica to the point that his penis has “caught up” with his ligs, would potential gains increase as the tunica catches up with and become as long as (longer than?) the ligs? Is it possible that there may be a point after much tunica gains, that lig gains are once again possible?

fauven,

Think of it like this; the tunica is a sheath that covers the whole of the erectile chambers, like a condom kinda. The ligs attach to this from the pubic bone. If the tunica between where the pubic bone is and the furthest point along the shaft that the ligs attach is stretched, the ligs will get tighter. Therefore, LOT will raise and probably erection angle too.

SS4