I was not getting good gains and my penis was getting fatigued quickly into a routine and would not show the good signs of growth. I have since been working on loosening my grip with really good results. Is there a way of us describing the amount of grip used in a Jelq that would help us all communicate technique to eachother? We have some pretty good info on the stroke , routines and other aspects, I think that a good description of the amount of pressure on the jelg would help alot of newbies along. Perhaps the description should be like…the OK grip should create a circle between finger and thumb that is 3/4 the diameter of the penis girth? What do you all think?