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Girth theory: Pumping vs. clamping

Originally Posted by marinera
I also believe in authority, you mean? I think all my posts are witnessing adversely - I just was threatened of being excluded because I was not agreeing with a moderator’s ideas and attitudes.

Don’t be afraid of being excluded, say what you mean, just be polite, that’s all. - First virtue even of a of a moderator is moderation. Right Mr. Happy? Correct ThunderSS, Sir?


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Originally Posted by marinera
I also believe in authority, you mean? I think all my posts are witnessing adversely - I just was threatened of being excluded because I was not agreeing with a moderator’s ideas and attitudes.

No. You posted this:

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Great posts are an habit for pudendum and ttt.

And I posted this. :)

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You also marinera.


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Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Don’t be afraid of being excluded, say what you mean, just be polite, that’s all. - First virtue even of a of a moderator is moderation. Right Mr. Happy? Correct ThunderSS, Sir?

Right ttt.


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Oh my God! Supported by ttt, compliments by pudendum and ThunderSS…I’ m moved to tears. Many thatnks, guys, I’m signing this day on my Calendar :) .

Originally Posted by marinera
Oh my God! Supported by ttt, compliments by pudendum and ThunderSS.I’ m moved to tears. Many thatnks, guys, I’m signing this day on my Calendar :) .

Just to remind you: this is a pe-forum, not a psychoanalysts couch.

As far as I am regarded: leave your tears outside of the forum, at least outside of this thread. Just keep discussing pe-issues, I would appreciate that a lot.


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Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Just to remind you: this is a pe-forum, not a psychoanalysts couch.

So ttt, how does this make you feel?

Oh, BTW that will be $200. You can pay my receptionist. :)

Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Just to remind you: this is a pe-forum, not a psychoanalysts couch.

As far as I am regarded: leave your tears outside of the forum, at least outside of this thread. Just keep discussing pe-issues, I would appreciate that a lot.

Haven’t you seen the smile in my post? You know: there is such thing called irony.

By the way, PE and psychoanalys have many thinghs in common, as some post in this thread suggest.

Originally Posted by marinera
Haven’t you seen the smile in my post? You know: there is such thing called irony.

By the way, PE and psychoanalys have many thinghs in common, as some post in this thread suggest.

Sorry - I missed it :) .

And - your comment is right. (Ask my gf.)


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Originally Posted by pudendum
So ttt, how does this make you feel?

Oh, BTW that will be $200. You can pay my receptionist. :)

That’s a good price - but is it a good deal?


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Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
Great posts, guys. It’s a real boon to our PE science to have a couple of MDs on board :up:

One question, pudendum: I don’t understand why you’re saying girth gains through pumping are easier to comprehend (physiologically) if one pumps with a low level of erection. As the negative pressure expands the tunica, won’t it eventually reach the same level of low compliance as when one begins pumping with a full erection — and isn’t this the point beyond which further expansion is necessary for gains to occur? Obviously I’m misunderstanding something; any clarification would be appreciated :)

Doesn’t make sense to me, either.

My impression from experience and after reasoning would be that the higher the pressure difference the better (higher) the wall stress in the tunica. Then, the positive pressure in the corpora would add to the negative pressure in the tube. With the advantage that the erection cavernous chamber pressure translates 100% into wall stress of the tunica while only a fraction of the decreased pressure in the tube would translate into wall stress.

Finally, I believe that girth gains require primarily tunica gains. Once the tunica becomes bigger the spongy tissue will easily fill it by expansion and probably both hypertrophy and hyperplasia.


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Originally Posted by pudendum
When most guys who begin PE, they have not reached a point where full erections distend the cavernosa/tunica to it’s maximum.

Doesn’t make much sense to me:

If a guy has a rock hard erection that means that his tunica is stretched a lot.

(Of course the stress can be increased by jelq - pump - clamp).

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Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Just keep discussing pe-issues, I would appreciate that a lot.

I think that is the idea here, yes. :)

Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Just to remind you: this is a pe-forum, not a psychoanalysts couch.

Or a pissing contest. (:

Although…that is penis related, I suppose. `:-)


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Mr Happy,
I’m well aware of the medical community’s categorical dismissal of NPE and, yes, I’ve found their pronouncements to certainly be false (as per my gains). But, again, I’m referring to the posts from a number of veteran pumpers from a few internet forums.

Furthermore, I think it’s reasonable to suspect Kaplan’s own view of the permanence issue when he’s spent years dodging the FDA (why not work with them fully and “prove” that his pumps produce permanent gains?).

And, regarding the doctors’ dismissal of NPE, few if any of them conducted any research of their own whatsoever (in fact, one of the few NPE studies I’ve ever seen - which is also linked here - DID show gains, the defendants lost the (mail fraud) case based on the issue of *permanence*, not that gains never occurred. . Again, I believe they’re dismissing it based on the misunderstanding of what we do. They’re arguing that the penis cannot experience hypertrophy…….and most of us agree with that.

Dirk Diggler,

I was being a little facetious about the “15 days” comment. But, seriously, do you think you’ll still retain your pumping gains after a 15-month-plus layoff, cold turkey?

I agree that pumping & clamping are not the same thing; the main similarity between the two is, I believe, the unreliability of the “gains” produced by those 2 activities.

And, regarding clamping, bear in mind the risk you’re taking.

- wad

Originally Posted by wadzilla
Mr Happy,
I’m well aware of the medical community’s categorical dismissal of NPE and, yes, I’ve found their pronouncements to certainly be false (as per my gains). But, again, I’m referring to the posts from a number of veteran pumpers from a few internet forums.

Furthermore, I think it’s reasonable to suspect Kaplan’s own view of the permanence issue when he’s spent years dodging the FDA (why not work with them fully and “prove” that his pumps produce permanent gains?).

And, regarding the doctors’ dismissal of NPE, few if any of them conducted any research of their own whatsoever (in fact, one of the few NPE studies I’ve ever seen - which is also linked here - DID show gains, the defendants lost the (mail fraud) case based on the issue of *permanence*, not that gains never occurred. . Again, I believe they’re dismissing it based on the misunderstanding of what we do. They’re arguing that the penis cannot experience hypertrophy.and most of us agree with that.

Dirk Diggler,

I was being a little facetious about the “15 days” comment. But, seriously, do you think you’ll still retain your pumping gains after a 15-month-plus layoff, cold turkey?

I agree that pumping & clamping are not the same thing; the main similarity between the two is, I believe, the unreliability of the “gains” produced by those 2 activities.

And, regarding clamping, bear in mind the risk you’re taking.

- Wad

Sorry wad - what’s NPE?


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