Girth theory: Pumping vs. clamping

I also believe in authority, you mean? I think all my posts are witnessing adversely - I just was threatened of being excluded because I was not agreeing with a moderator’s ideas and attitudes.

I also believe in authority, you mean? I think all my posts are witnessing adversely - I just was threatened of being excluded because I was not agreeing with a moderator’s ideas and attitudes.

Great posts are an habit for pudendum and ttt.

You also marinera.

Don’t be afraid of being excluded, say what you mean, just be polite, that’s all. - First virtue even of a of a moderator is moderation. Right Mr. Happy? Correct ThunderSS, Sir?

Oh my God! Supported by ttt, compliments by pudendum and ThunderSS.I’ m moved to tears. Many thatnks, guys, I’m signing this day on my Calendar :) .

Just to remind you: this is a pe-forum, not a psychoanalysts couch.

Just to remind you: this is a pe-forum, not a psychoanalysts couch.

As far as I am regarded: leave your tears outside of the forum, at least outside of this thread. Just keep discussing pe-issues, I would appreciate that a lot.

Haven’t you seen the smile in my post? You know: there is such thing called irony.

By the way, PE and psychoanalys have many thinghs in common, as some post in this thread suggest.

So ttt, how does this make you feel?

Oh, BTW that will be $200. You can pay my receptionist. :)

Great posts, guys. It’s a real boon to our PE science to have a couple of MDs on board :up:

One question, pudendum: I don’t understand why you’re saying girth gains through pumping are easier to comprehend (physiologically) if one pumps with a low level of erection. As the negative pressure expands the tunica, won’t it eventually reach the same level of low compliance as when one begins pumping with a full erection — and isn’t this the point beyond which further expansion is necessary for gains to occur? Obviously I’m misunderstanding something; any clarification would be appreciated :)

When most guys who begin PE, they have not reached a point where full erections distend the cavernosa/tunica to it’s maximum.

Just keep discussing pe-issues, I would appreciate that a lot.

Just to remind you: this is a pe-forum, not a psychoanalysts couch.

Mr Happy,
I’m well aware of the medical community’s categorical dismissal of NPE and, yes, I’ve found their pronouncements to certainly be false (as per my gains). But, again, I’m referring to the posts from a number of veteran pumpers from a few internet forums.

Furthermore, I think it’s reasonable to suspect Kaplan’s own view of the permanence issue when he’s spent years dodging the FDA (why not work with them fully and “prove” that his pumps produce permanent gains?).

And, regarding the doctors’ dismissal of NPE, few if any of them conducted any research of their own whatsoever (in fact, one of the few NPE studies I’ve ever seen - which is also linked here - DID show gains, the defendants lost the (mail fraud) case based on the issue of *permanence*, not that gains never occurred. . Again, I believe they’re dismissing it based on the misunderstanding of what we do. They’re arguing that the penis cannot experience hypertrophy.and most of us agree with that.

Dirk Diggler,

I was being a little facetious about the “15 days” comment. But, seriously, do you think you’ll still retain your pumping gains after a 15-month-plus layoff, cold turkey?

I agree that pumping & clamping are not the same thing; the main similarity between the two is, I believe, the unreliability of the “gains” produced by those 2 activities.

And, regarding clamping, bear in mind the risk you’re taking.

- Wad