Gathering Info on how to work up a productive routine for Hard Gainers
This is from my post on Gators Thread;
you will need to read my EQ and PI threads to understand this Thread, linked at the bottom of this post. If you don’t read the first page of the EQ thread, you will have critical misunderstandings that will render THIS thread worthless for you.
How Hardgainers can work up a productive routine
Just for the record, there are two concepts, 1) less is more 2) more is more. Both work, but they rarely work for the same guy. You have to find out if you are #1 guy or a #2 guy.
IF you are a less is more guy, more than that will NEVER work for you. IF you are a more is more guy, minimal routines will NEVER get you gains.
The trick is to find out what type you are, then tune it to work for you. Its a lot trickier if you are a less is more guy, because 2 minutes difference can mean the difference between gains or not. The good news is you have to put in far less time than a more is more guy.
The good news for a more is more guy, the “window” of growth is much bigger and generally the more you do (with good EQ) the better you do. These are the guys that can pump for an hour daily and get great gains. The bad news is you might NEED to put in an hour a day at minimum.
This is why for a hard gainer I usually recommend either pumping (with a gauge) or hanging. Both of these can use definite objective force perimeters, not a guess like with manual methods. I suggest start with a ridiculously small amount of time and force, and gradually work up while keeping good records of EQ and PIs.
IF you do this, you WILL find out if you are a more is more or less is more guy, based on EQ. Too much will crash your EQ, and rest will restore it. Too little can crash your EQ, and rest won’t help. Ideally, you want to start low and work up and see EQ rise to levels WAY above your untrained levels. This high EQ becomes a reference point. If it drops, you need to adjust your PE (either up or down). If it continues to rise, keep going with adding time or force (I recommend not to exceed 5 in hg). Once it begins to drop, you know you have reached apx your STARTING point for PE. Once it drops from too much force/time (confirmed), then drop back to the level that gave you your HIGHEST EQ level.
Once you confirm this, now you have a BASELINE. At this point you begin to experiment from this baseline. Good example is for Gator, 10 minutes @ 5 in hg. He then found 3-4 days on and 1-2 off started to show gains. He can now do experiments with more or less and always come back to his baseline if he gets “lost”. Less is more guys ESPECIALLY need this baseline or else we can get hopelessly confused when working up a productive routine.
[More is more guys usually don’t need this as much…just pump the hell out of your dick and it starts to grow.]
The confusion can come in (for less is more guys) if you do WAY too much (from a BIG jump in time or force), it might take a week or more of rest to restore your EQ. You can prevent this confusion by GRADUAL increases, so you will see gradual changes in EQ. If you are just a bit over trained, a day or two is enough to recover and see EQ rise.
Once you find this out, the trick is to find what routine gives consistently high EQ (and some may NEED a drop towards the end of the mini cycle). Once you find that, you are usually pretty close to your “growth window” and you just fine tune your perimeters until you start to see gains.
As Gator mentioned, when fine tuning it may take up to a week to see if you are a little too high or low. Stress can accumulate or reduce gradually when you are just a bit too high or low.
Good luck and pm me with questions if I don’t answer within a few days here.
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Last edited by sparkyx : 02-11-2012 at .