Gaining 10+ cubic inches

Right now, I think newbies here are set on a course that will yield them about 1-3 cubic inches of gains if they are lazy, and 3-5 cubic inches of gains if they are dedicated. These are obviously generalizations, but ones that are borne out in the data. The average gain is about 3.5 cubic inches in the database.

Also from the database, we know that only 4% of members gain 10+ cubic inches. And only 1% gain 15+ cubic inches. I personally think those who post in the database, as a group, get better gains than those that don’t, because of a dedication selection bias in the data. So it’s safe to say less than 4% of guys get 10+ cubic inches. And I think most guys coming here with an average or smaller starting size, are hoping for a 10+ cubic inch gain.

I no longer think the big gainers are lucky. Some of them are… lucky to have a fast gains rate. But I’m just a normal gainer, 1 cubic inch per year ever since my newbie gains rate wore off. I’ve gained about 7 cubic inches volume, and there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that I will gain 5-7 more cubic inches over enough time.

So strongly do I believe in the physiological process of gaining, I think that anyone who can get PE to work for them at all - that is, anyone who can gain even 1 cubic inch, can also gain 10+ cubic inches, if they want to strongly enough. In the database, about 97% of members with 2 or more entries have recorded a gain. And I think those are about the right odds for somebody to gain 10+ cubic inches if they’re willing to do whatever it takes to do it.

Belief and positive mindset are key. Belief is so important. If you start PE and expect to gain 3 cubic inches and believe that anything more than that is luck, or a blessing, or out of your control - then it will be. But if you believe that the physiological process of PE makes gains a biological certainty, then your gains are potentially unlimited. In the data the upper limit seems to be around 25 cubic inches gained. The real limits to me, seem to be how much you can fit in a vagina, and how much time and effort one is willing to devote to this endeavor.

The only trick to it, is learning to gain - which has a unique and individual meaning to each member, based on their own anatomy. And that takes reading the forums, a lot. I’ve probably spent more time reading and researching than actually doing PE. If you dig around enough, the knowledge needed is all over TP. But if you don’t know that digging is worth an extra 5-7 cubic inches in your gains, or more, then you’re stuck with the 3-5 cubic inch average.

More thoughts on this to come.

Hey BD, great stuff - love that your an apologist for PE with hard facts & figures - uber encouraging! Related to what you’re saying, what fascinates me (and maybe you’ve addressed it in a previous post or can in a future post?) is when one does the math and puts the cubic inch gains into percentages - it gains even more meaning for me in that context.

Why? Because if I didn’t gain any more, I would find it amazing that my current volume gain, while not sounding like much next to some of the big gainers, still amounts to a frigging 25% gain which is just completely amazing if you previously believed you were stuck with what you were given (and I totally agree with your point on believing PE works - I had no consistent gains until that clicked into place). That said, I’m striving for the 10+ cubic inch club and beyond.

Because it’s there.

QL

Though no dick is a perfect cylinder, I too like the volume measurement.

So my starting stats I was 8.47 cubic inches
Now I’m at 13.73 cubic inches
An increase of 5.26 cubic inches

That’s a 62% increase. Quite amazing.

Heya BD

Great insight with the nexus between setting goals and believing that they can be reached. Yes, our mind controls our abilities, so pulling on the dick only is.not enough, we have to stretch the mind too.

I slightly disagree with putting gains in raw number of inches or cubic inches. I think that proportional gains are much more interesting because they cut out the variation of starting measurements.

If you have the stats at hand, could you give us insight about the distribution of percentile gains from the starting point (length, girth, volume). I think this would help a lot of newbies to get an insight about expectations for their individual size.

Just a thought, not a criticism.

The Inevitablity of Gains Theory by BD.

I like this approach of macro thinking. It gets you out of your head, and the constant knee jerk reaction to short term thinking.

Whether it’s true or just compelling theory it does seem like gains should be inevitable given human error can be removed.

Great post, BD. We’re always on the lookout for new material for the front page. If folks can resist the urge to hijack the thread, and we can add some details from the database, I think we might get this on the front page. It is an encouragement to everyone that with patience and dedication, we can reach our goals!

The one thing I stress most is keeping the faith. The most key element is pursuing your goal with the fervor of someone who has already won. Who exists in a reality that has already yielded his goal.

Dedication and faith in both the practice of PE and your own technique is all that matters. I’ve seen guys with just jelqing that have gained incredible amounts. While others scoff at the notion of jelqing actually being effective.

Gaining is a process and continued belief is a thing that takes as much maintenance as the gains we make. It is inevitable that you will gain, especially when you hold this truth to be self-evident and obvious.

I like your reference to the database. The numbers back up these exact assertions and nothing is more worth hope and faith than the proof of past success at the thing you’re trying to do.

Well said, Bearded Dragon.

Great post. What’s the best way to calculate cubic inches of a cylinder?

Volume of a cylinder with calculator - Math Open Reference

Extrapolate radius by : EG divided by 3.14 divided by 2

Height is BPEL

I 100% equate PE to the gym.

They have those of us who go in and work our asses off to gain, and then you have the majority who just go through the motions and you might even see regularly for a period of time, but with no progress to show for. Or the ones who “think” they’re training hard enough and wonder why they’re not growing but their routine is 15 min warm up 10min weightlifting and 15m cool down, just swap words to the PE world and its what i see and hear. And you can’t expect gains at the gym or PE alter with that kind of work ethic.

Well written BD

Warm Regards,
Wrath

Faith is for those that don’t know truth.

Once one knows truth, there is no purpose to faith; indeed, the only purpose that faith has ever had is the sad but necessary purpose for some of soothing and distracting the insecure, searching, desiring mind from it’s imperative of finding the truth that it’s master so desperately wants it not to confront.

Once one knows how to grow one’s penis, faith is as useless in PE as it is in all things.

Once that knowledge has been acquired, it’s all up to the mind…”All experience is preceded by mind, led by mind, made by mind.”…and the diligence of the person…”Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts.” - Siddhartha Gautama

I think we all start pretty much there; it’s whether one evolves from that position of ignorance to one of knowledge…informed by one’s experience and certainly, by examining the experience of others…that makes all the difference. If one’s mind cannot evolve, it will be very difficult for one’s penis to.

Soooo…be a humble student of PE; read as much as you can stand in order to become as best informed as you can…then read some more and become even better informed. Then experiment…and learn…how your tissues respond to the stimuli that you have chosen to apply…in other words, learn how to KNOW how to grow your penis. Repeat.

Thanks for the important post BD; this is an important topic. Your postulate is the opposite of that insane postulate that subliminal PE has utility…well, for the truth averse, I suppose it can help placate the searching mind…but truth avoidance is not recommended. I could train a monkey to apply stress as I do, but I can’t train a monkey to KNOW how to apply stress as I do…that requires mind. Cultivate it and it will help you cultivate all things in your Life, your penis included.

xeno

Man of faith here. Not blind faith, genuine faith.

Please explain the difference.

Thank you.

xeno

xeno, I will grant you that faith is generally a product used to sooth the uneasy mind. However, the newer a member here is the more useful faith is.

And in my link that says “keep the faith” I mention the law of attraction, which is physics. Proven science. That we create the reality we wish to live in and it starts in our own minds with what we define as the truth.

Hard work and effort cultivate all ends, indeed. But a strong mind cultivates the temperance required to stay said course. A mind with no fuel leads no body to the desired victory.

Agreed on several points; in fact I said as much here:

but like training wheels, it’s important to leave it behind when one can replace it with KNOWLEDGE.

xeno