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From the Inside Out

Greetings:

It’s been quite a while since I have launched a thread. Been away building myself a building (by myself) which took a lot of time and effort. One of the reasons for this project was to create a re-creation room for some of my PE efforts, exercise, music, as well as office and shop. It’s done and I want to share some information on a recent experiment.

One of the new toys I purchased as part of the construction project is an Infrared sauna. Wow! It’s everything I had hoped for in terms of providing heat (or so I thought until tonight) while doing PE workouts.

I try to get in 3 sessions per week in the sauna all for medical reasons unrelated to PE - PE-ing in the sauna is just an added bonus. I usually take a 45 minute session at 140 deg F which is quite comfortable. One of the benefits of the far InfraRed (say 9-25 micron wavelength) is you pop a terrific sweat due to the penetrative heating of InfraRed but at quite tolerable ambient air temperature inside the sauna enclosure.

Anyway, tonight I decided to forgo PE and run some temperature testing. Specifically, since I had observed significant sauna-induced stretch both inside the tube while pumping as well as when using my stretcher, I had concluded that I was getting a significant softening of tunica and other tissues due to increased body temperature. So, I took a dual channel digital temperature probe and placed one of the sensors deep under the scrotum at the transition junction with the perineum.

Boy, was I wrong! Damn temperature didn’t move more than 1.5 deg F during the entire session. I finally pulled the probe and held it about eye level for a few minutes and the temperature climbed steadily approaching the 140 deg F setpoint of the sauna controller.

Then I got to thinking. The purported reasons that saunas have merit is that they improve circulation. Deep respiration vaporizes water and you exhale it and you sweat like hell as your body is working overtime to regulate your core temperature. DUH!

Then why the gradual increased stretch during both a pumping and/or stretching session beyond that observed using a rice sock, heat pad, etc?

I went back to my files on IR and found an anecdotal reference about far infrared therapy via sauna lowering blood pressure in hypertensive people. The hypothesis, somewhat confirmed by blood tests, is that the sauna forces the endothelelial linings of the blood vessels to adapt and store more of the chemicals that release nitrous oxide (NO) which causes those vessels to relax and carry more blood flow and do so at lower or the same pressure.

That was one of the reasons I got the sauna in the first place. I’d just lost track due to the excitement of PE.

I’ve been using the sauna now for about 6 weeks. I’ve had more morning wood and deeper, more restful sleep the nights after sauna sessions than I can remember in a long, long time. I also very rapidly recovered from a nasty, irksome muscle pull in my hip that gave me no relief or quarter except when in the box.

As to the improved stretch, flaccid hang, and other factors I’ve observed post sauna? I think it’s changes in blood chemistry - certainly I’ve adapted some given the responses I’ve experienced since I’ve started far IR sauna therapy and maybe it does have to due with enhanced Nitrous Oxide chemistry. I’d be very appreciative of others observations and comments on this.

All the Best,

MrTiPS


Then - BPEL 5.9, EG 5.2 - Now: BPEL 7.2, EG 5.6 Listen woman, "Don't bitch at me for burning the candle at both ends - just get me some more wax!"

Very interesting post Mr.Tips.

Now I want an Infra-Red sauna.

I’d be curious to learn more about the science involved.

Oh yeah. FYI: ‘recreation’ (as in recreation room) needs no hyphen. With a hyphen it means something else: starting a creation process over, or re-enacting or something.

But anyway, you feel that the IR is helping you gain and giving you deeper stretches?

What Hg do you pump at? And do you feel or see a noticeable girth increase?

Do you also get a tan?

What are the dangers? If any?

Please advise.


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Great to see you posting again, MrTips. I half expected you to say that your dick stretched like a rubber band inside the sauna, but I see your body had a different idea.

I wouldn’t be surprised if penile temperature rose, even though scrotal temperature didn’t. The body has quite a large stake in ensuring that scrotal temperature stays low. Maybe not so much for the penis.


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Hi MrHappy,

The hyphen was no mistake - you picked up on the word play as the room that the sauna is in is more for building health than it is for fun or games.

I pump at 3-5 inches of Hg for most of the session. I may go higher than that but only for short bursts near the end of a session by pulling on the tube so as to further stretch at the base of the tube having nearly packed the tube otherwise.

The far IR definitely helps the PE process but not in the way I had suspected. It is not temperature directly as the body speeds up circulation to maintain and control core temperature. In doing so, the body adapts and enhances its biochemical capacity to relax blood vessels which gives you a gradual improvement in blood circulation throughout your entire body including blood flow to the penile artery and veins thus, over time, improving erections, among other things.

Because I observed an improvement in overall stretch during PE, I erroneously concluded it was temperature, per se, but local temperatures didn’t come close to the 103-104 deg F or so reported as the threshold for softening collagenous tissues. Maybe the temperature or, rather the IR-induced heat flux, triggers other things such as enhanced blood flow and/or the release of prostaglandins that affect the tissues under stress.

As an aside, there is a mounting pile of scientific evidence amassed by Dr Whelan at the University of Wisconsin Children’s Hospital and others that certain bands in the near InfraRed spectrum (such as 635, 740, and 840 millimicron or nanometer) as emitted by InfraRed light-emitting diodes can speed healing processes by as much as 5X over normal. I mention this because only in the last few years are we gaining more scientific understanding into the biological responses of all cells and the organelles in those cells to various forms of electromagnetic stimulation. That said, the InfraRed sauna I have emits energy in the mid to far regions of the electromagnetic spectrum and, to a lesser degree, emits some in the near infrared, too. The people that designed the ceramic infrared emitters in my sauna did so in such a way as to emulate the emission spectra of hot rocks as used in the traditional sweat lodges of Scandinavian and Native American peoples but without the steam that raises the ambient air temperatures to such extremely high temperatures as experienced in those lodges.

As I pump and stretch, I am slowly gaining girth.

As for a tan, absolutely not. There is no ultraviolet emission from the ceramic modulators that generate the infrared energy in my sauna. Its UV that stimulates your skin to tan so as to protect itself from the burning effects of UV. UV radiation is in the nominal 0.2-0.4 micron range of the EM spectrum. Near IR starts at about 0.7 micron, mid IR starts at about 1 micron, and far IR starts at about 9 micron. You can see that UV is an order of magnitude in wavelength apart from mid to far IR.

I am not aware of any dangers, per se. Rather, I am looking forward to many health benefits.

Modesto - great that you chimed in. I thought the same thing that penile temperature would increase but last night’s experience did not bear that out as I tried to measure that, too. I intend to run an experiment later this week during a pumping session with the temperature sensor in the tube to try and get more accurate information.

Thanks for posting and all the best,

MrTiPS


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Thanks for clarifying.

As always I look forward to your posts.


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The more I think about it the more I like the idea of hanging/pumping/or PEing in the sauna.

The heat, sure. But also the total body relaxation.

I don’t know so much about Infrared therapies.

I’m curious. Is there anything else to know?


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God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

Hi MrHappy,

There’s a lot to consider. While I don’t want to do a sales job on InfraRed/Saunas, per se, one aspect of my research really struck home after I had ‘slept’ on it some - and that’s the issue of supplementing L-Argenine.

The spin on taking more L-Argenine is to try and pump up one’s supply of the biochemicals that cause erections, specifically Nitrous Oxide (NO). Well, the body is going to store what it thinks it needs to meet daily requirements for the endothelilial linings of all blood vessels in the body, not just the penile artery. So, if you are a weight trainer or power walker and you exercise the big muscles in your body (like the glutes and quads), your body is going to need more NO to relax the blood vessels to those areas of the body. Bottom line: exercise=good erections

In my opinion, it makes more sense to power walk and power lift a couple of sessions a week or so while you are taking more L-Argenine as your body needs more NO to adapt to the stress of the exercise. If you don’t exercise, more supplements might help PE a little but I think you need the synergy triggered by the exercise or some form of physical activity.

Well, the same is true for the InfraRed sauna. After a few weeks of IR you get better erections as your body stores/produces more NO to relax the big blood vessels to meet the stress of thermal regulation. So, it would make sense to make sure your diet is rich in L-Argenine and/or other precursors that produce NO if you sauna.

Combine moderate exercise, a good and balanced diet with regular sauna sessions over time and lots of clean, pure water and you will do wonders for your overall health including your sex life - JMHO. Also, a person might not need to rely so much (if at all) on Viagra or Cialis to get good wood as the body’s own machinery is put back into better working condition. Again, JMHO.

This is one aspect - I’ll post more.

All the Best,

MrTiPS


Then - BPEL 5.9, EG 5.2 - Now: BPEL 7.2, EG 5.6 Listen woman, "Don't bitch at me for burning the candle at both ends - just get me some more wax!"

Greetings:

Well, I pumped last night - seated in the sauna with a digital temperature probe in the tube. NADA, zip, zilch … no significant penile surface temperature rise. What, if any heat was making it through the pumping tube was being dissipated by increased blood circulation. That said, I did get a real nice elongation down the axis of the pumping tube that increased throughout the duration of the session.

This result is not too surpising based on the results of temperature tests the other evening and given the fact that most plastics are opague to InfraRed energy and are also poor conducters of heat.

As an aside, I am really getting spoiled by the sauna. I warm up for a good while and then do PE (stretch, pump, etc). What’s nice about pumping is that there is an electrical access port near the front door in the lower right corner. I have run the vacuum line from my CTC pump through the access port. When its time to pump, I reach through the door and flip on the CTC switch and pump away. With piped in music its totally decadent.

Later,

MrTiPS


Then - BPEL 5.9, EG 5.2 - Now: BPEL 7.2, EG 5.6 Listen woman, "Don't bitch at me for burning the candle at both ends - just get me some more wax!"

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