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Focus Your PE and Gain! TGC Theory

Very interesting theory that might explain much of my situation because the difference between my BPFSL and BPEL currently is below 0.5”. When I started PEing I remember that the difference between my BPFSL and BPEL almost was 1” and during the first few weeks I gained like 2 mm/week (roughly 1/10”). I will definitely think of trying to increase my Tunica (that is correct, right?) when I redo my workout-program :) Thanks a lot for this insight :)

Iguana and Remek,

Great theory! I do have a question, though.

Say if someone’s limiting factor is the tunica, yet they do higher erection jelqing, clamping, and other girth exercises. Now, lets say they overtrain and their tunica is worn out. If they continued to keep doing PE, would the smooth muscle start taking the blunt of the force? I know “controlled overtraining” is used in weightlifting sometimes and if done right can have great results, so maybe it might carry over to the science of penis enlargement.

It’s almost like pre-exhaustion when it comes to working out. The definition of pre-exhaustion is:

“In theory, muscle development will always be incomplete with standard movements, because the large muscle group will outlast the smaller supporting muscles. As an example, the triceps will become exhausted prior to the chest or shoulder muscles on any given pressing movement. The proposed solution is to “pre-exhaust” the larger muscle, in order to given the smaller muscles a temporary advantage in strength.”

Thoughts?

I know muscles and the tissue in penis work different, but just curious on your thoughts.

I just don’t like the thought of hanging (tunica is my limiting factor) since I can never seem to be totally flaccid LOL!

Awesome thread guys!

Been a “student” of PE since.around 2001.

Intuitively, this makes alot of sense. Considering all the PE “theories”,etc.aren’t supported by anything other than “inferences” and anecdotal evidence.this is as close as it gets.

I’m nearly 8 inches Flaccid stretched and around 7.5 hard.but my EQ isn’t that great and staying hard is a prob.

I’m in fairly decent shape (weights, cardio, mixed martial arts 5-6 times a week) and have an above average diet..

I’ve kinda always known / had a feeling I should be working on my girth, but now I think you’ve opened the door for me to go all the way.

This also makes sense from a common sense perspective.since jelqing, pumping, clamping have been shown to increase length as well as girth.

Shy contactial muscles and smooth muscle of the penis are nothing a like and do not grow the same way regular muscle only grows due to stress but this is were the similarity stops.

If you don’t work out the muscle they shrink back to normal size because muscle expand caused by hypertrophy. We don’t see this with some one who gains an inch once you have it it’s pretty much there for good even if they stop PE.

Don’t think of bb when you think of penis growth it will only lead you to the wrong answer. What we are looking for is the body ability to create more actual penis tissue or tissue in general this is called hyperplasia or the division of cells called mitosis.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

Diesel,

Thanks for your input. It is much appreciated :) I have seen threads where some guys have lost length after taking time off (like a year or so). Not everyone, but it seems that some lose length. Is that due to the ligaments getting tougher or contracting a little bit?

I agree totally with you on this but if we grow actual tissue it should stay there. We are on the same page on this.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

Diesel220,

Wife is doing psyiology. Out of curiousity I looked up smooth muscle, collagen, the penis anatomy. The book did mention that hyperplasia or cell division is a possible growth pattern of smooth muscle tissue. It also mentioned that smooth muscle can contract, but works in a different manner than skeletal tissues.

I am also of the opinion that new tissue that grows, stays. However if not worked, it can shrink a tad, but will be larger than what you started.

I also believe hyperplacia, or cell division on a “traction” concept does not have anything to do with microtears, but rather muscle or tissues under traction seem to grow. Most believe thru cell-division principles.

Diesel220,

Have you thought about water storage? I notice when I don’t work out for a long time, my gut goes out and most muscles do flatten just a bit.

However when I get back into it, the gut goes in, muscles contain more pump. Weight can mostly not have changed.

It seems like part of the training effect, in a working body is that the body will store more water in the muscle tissues rather than the gut.

The gut probably has something to do with the 3 bears resting for the winter.. I dunno, had to throw that out there.

To all the scientists: I’ve done the tests and it looks like I should be doing tunica stretching. However, I want to focus on girth or at least have gains in the girth department at some point. How should I form my workouts?

^^So can I expect this to give me length as well or just girth or will it just be trial and error? I understand the concept that stretching routines target the tunica which is my limiting factor for “overall” growth (I use the parentheses because there are a lot of unknowns) but it shouldn’t come as a surprise that this is a bit confusing. I’m asking “how do I gain girth?” and you’re replying “do length exercises.” Also, it should be noted that low erection exercises are usually associated with length workouts.

Don’t get the impression that I don’t like the theory or agree with it. I think there’s a lot to it but it seems mostly length-based to me.

If your goal is girth, 60% of your routine should be stretching.

Scroll up the page and look for a post that will take you to a thread of mine using the TGC theory. I would stretch for 10 2/3 minutes (640 seconds of stretching) and I would do high intensity girth exercises for 50 minutes. I gained in length, but not hardly in girth.

Do you understand that your girth will not get larger if there is nowhere for your smooth muscle to expand?

Remek & Iguana — personally, I like your theory. Thanks for sharing all your hard work & thoughts with us.

I think I’m most surprised that people disputed whether there’s a causal link between an increase in SM in the penis and an improved erection. Ok, based on the articles you posted, and the clinical studies that were performed, there’s a clear causal link between ED and deterioration of the SM tissue in the penis. So as SM deterioration increases/ there’s a proportionate decrease in erection strength/ up to the point where there’s no erection at all.. I.E.—> ED.

I mean.. Let’s be reasonable—if decreased SM tissue leads to a weaker erection, why can’t more SM tissue lead to a stronger erection? I don’t recall Remek & Iguana saying it’s the ONLY causal factor..

I don’t think it’s asking much to concede that it’s one of many possible causal factors (blood pressure/ health etc etc)

I think it’s ridiculous to say that the quantity and quality of SM tissue in the penis has NO bearing on INCREASES in erection strength, but oh.. On the other hand, it’s very important in the case of a DECREASE in erection strength. I just don’t see how you can have it one way but not the other.

Originally Posted by Springer240
If your goal is girth, 60% of your routine should be stretching.

Scroll up the page and look for a post that will take you to a thread of mine using the TGC theory. I would stretch for 10 2/3 minutes (640 seconds of stretching) and I would do high intensity girth exercises for 50 minutes. I gained in length, but not hardly in girth.

Do you understand that your girth will not get larger if there is nowhere for your smooth muscle to expand?

The thread you pointed me pretty proved what I’m saying - that this theory might work for length but doesn’t really address girth. It doesn’t seem like you’re in much of a position to tell me how to gain girth. I’m not trying to be a dick here because your gains were excellent but they weren’t in the girth department.

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