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Eroset's Vein Oil - for thrombosis and more

What is a dermaroller?

I believe you are right shiver about the size of castor oil, I don’t believe castor oil could penetrate at all without heat. I don’t know much about all this but I am guessing that the stratum corneum opens up slightly when hot to allow the oil through?

Castor Oil is used between the group of people I know with ulcerative colitis, you apply it to your stomach on a heat pad and it helps with your bowel. I found this on a site which gives me a lot of hope:

“External treatments like castor oil packs were often advocated by Edgar Cayce in his readings on Crohn’s Disease and ulcerative colitis. Castor oil is also known as palma Christi, or literally, “the hand of Christ,” because of its superb healing properties.”


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

Originally Posted by Shiver
You could always try a “dermaroller” :D


Ouch ..think I’ll pass on testing that one out. :D

Originally Posted by qwqe
I was just wondering do you have some before + After pics

I’ll get some ‘after’ shots soon.

Originally Posted by millionman
Well, I used the oil for the first time tonight, and I have to say that it is very good. I warmed up very thoroughly and did a few jelqs and I noticed that the vein was still soft and only prominent when pressure was applied at the base of the fat pad. I noticed more veins when i was jelqing, and I moved into doing a few squeezes to see how the vein would react and it did very well. The oil seems to keep the vein in a softer state and more open, and along with the hot water treatments between massaging, jelqing, and the squeezes kept things flowing very well. I definitely like this and will continue to use it. I’m going to start each session with hot water treatment, then light-medium jelqing and some squeezes to end the session just to break back in. I’ll update here in this thread if I have any problems and to report good news as well (improved vascularity etc).

That’s excellent millionman, thanks for the feedback, look forward to hearing how it goes for you long-term.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

Dermaroller: http://www.dermaroller.de/derma_engl.htm (apparently painless, as it doesn’t penetrate live skin, only the surface).

To be honest, I don’t know how the absorbtion properties are affected when hot. I would expect that blood flow would increase which would increase the distribution rate of anything that got through. If it were another part of the body then I’d say scrub with a lufer or something to remove as much dead skin as possible before application, but that might be a bit harsh in this instance.

I’ll do some reading on castor oil and see what it turns up.

I read a little about trans-dermal absorption, and (according to one source) studies have shown that *covering* the oil after applying it (e.g., with a wrap that doesn’t itself absorb oil) increases absorption by a lot: otherwise much of it evaporates, apparently.

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Howdy E-

I’m liking EVO more and more each day. I consider it as essential :) as any of my PE paraphernalia and will be part of EVERY PE session of mine from now on. I find that with 10 minutes of EVO massage under IR light my T-vein is indiscernible from regular veins…sweet! I’m healed enough for a little PE now…

So I thought I’d do a little stretching after my EVO massage this morning, and I had to think of fish guts, cows shitting, my 2nd grade teacher…all sorts of yicky stuff in order to pull my wood down. Great side effect, but not conducive to doing flaccid PE work. Dammit! See what you can do about this! j/k .

I’m very happy with the T-vein improvement I’m seeing and am going to do some PE today for the first time since the injury…if I can only gets this wood down…lets see…liver pate, martha stewart, martha stewart naked…ok, I think it’s working…gotta go!

xeno
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At least for me, IR + EVO = “a good thing”…my apologies to martha.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
I read a little about trans-dermal absorption, and (according to one source) studies have shown that *covering* the oil after applying it (e.g., with a wrap that doesn’t itself absorb oil) increases absorption by a lot: otherwise much of it evaporates, apparently.


Interesting. I’ve been toying with the idea of wrapping in cellophane after applying the oil, then applying heat on top of that to keep my rice-sock from picking up the oil. My motivation hasn’t kicked in on that part of the experiment, since the hard vein is almost completely gone now, even after moderately strong jelqing. I do think some kind of wrap with heat on top would only increase the response.

I don’t know what kind of evaporative rate this stuff has, Olive Oil is a pretty thick carrier. I store mine in a graduated bottle so I can keep an eye on how much I’m using, I leave it open all the time and haven’t noticed any kind of obvious evaporation.

Originally Posted by xenolith
I find that with 10 minutes of EVO massage under IR light my T-vein is indiscernible from regular veins…sweet! I’m healed enough for a little PE now…

That is soooo excellent to hear, man! And thanks for adding the IR to the mix, I was wondering about that.

Originally Posted by xenolith
So I thought I’d do a little stretching after my EVO massage this morning, and I had to think of fish guts, cows shitting, my 2nd grade teacher…all sorts of yicky stuff in order to pull my wood down. Great side effect, but not conducive to doing flaccid PE work. Dammit! See what you can do about this! j/k .

:/D I love that. Once that vein trouble is long gone, I imagine you can increase the carrier oil a bit to lower the concentration of the essential oils and lessen the wood-stimulating effect. For now, since you want to keep dilating that vein, I guess your stuck with mental images of the yicky stuff. :D


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

Originally Posted by Eroset
For now, since you want to keep dilating that vein, I guess your stuck with mental images of the yicky stuff. :D

Hmmm…use EVO, the PE mistake eraser, to clear up my T-vein, but sport big wood as a result and not be able to do flaccid PE work without thinking of yicky stuff first…I’ll take that deal anyday!

It’ll be a GREAT deal when I move to erect work!

Thanks again E, really great stuff.


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

I have my spray bottle ready for the ingredients now, I thought I could just spray it over my dick when it was required - hopefully the olive oil aint too thick for it. Does anyone know much about tea tree oil, would this help in anyway?

I wonder why this stuff makes you erect easily, do you think it could be a placebo? I can’t wait to try it!


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

Think you’re going to have a hard time with a spray bottle, pretty thick stuff. Tea Tree oil is great stuff, but I’m not sure it has a real prominent role here. While I don’t see it listed as a vasoconstrictor, it is valued for it’s ability to greatly tighten skin pores. That to me sounds like it might get in the way, especially since we’re using heat, in part, to help open the pores for better absorption.

Originally Posted by PEst
I wonder why this stuff makes you erect easily, do you think it could be a placebo? I can’t wait to try it!

Well both Rosemary and Lemongrass are pretty stimulating, and the Clary Sage is warming, but this isn’t some magic boner cream or anything like that. I mean, I don’t expect you to slather it on and then poke somebody’s eye out by accident. When I use it in just a simple massage into the hardened vein, there were no signs of spontaneous wood, just a slight inflation as one would expect with massaging the area. It was only once I started jelqing with it that I noticed it suddenly easy for my erection level to get away from me, and over inflate more than I expected. I suspect different folks will react in differing degrees to this, especially depending on the concentration of the oils.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

If anyone is feeling creative, I have a feeling that Evening Primrose oil might do good things as a carrier, a possible prostaglandin pre-cursor, and maybe much more, but I wouldn’t like to speculate too much (cure what ails ya! :D ).

This is one I haven’t tried it though (far too sensible).

Evening Primrose is interesting stuff. The wife mentioned it when I was putting together the first batch, before she remembered that in an open solution, it tends to turn rancid very quickly and would need either refrigeration or a natural preservative like Wheat Germ Oil added. I’m going to play with it eventually, but wanted to try to keep this original recipe as simple as I could.

First batch actually used Jojoba as the base carrier, but I decided to test Olive Oil in the next batch because I figured it would make it easier for everybody else to mix themselves. Turned out Olive Oil worked just as well, if not better as it seems to make a better lube.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

Originally Posted by Eroset
First batch actually used Jojoba as the base carrier, but I decided to test Olive Oil in the next batch because I figured it would make it easier for everybody else to mix themselves. Turned out Olive Oil worked just as well, if not better as it seems to make a better lube.

I’m using grapeseed oil as my carrier oil for EVO. It’s healthy, virtually scentless, doesn’t go bad too soon, and I happened to have some in the cabinet above the stove.

I feel I must keep this thread alive as it could help many people. I planned to get up off my ass today and go hunt down the ingredients but my legs from the heavy squats I done yesterday are telling me that walking won’t be fun.


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

Ike,
doesn’t grapeseed oil limit DHT? just wondering if that could be a hinderance here.

Mistertee

This sounds really interesting. I don’t have a thrombosed vein but I am interested in using it in my PE routine. I’ll probably buy the stuff later in the week.


Start (6-10-05) BPEL: 6.7" |EG: 4.6" |NBP: 5.9"

Now (10-26-06) BPEL: 7.75 |EG:5" |NBP: 7.05"

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