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Eroset's Vein Oil - for thrombosis and more

I personally shake it before using Thunder, but according to the wife, who knows far more about this stuff than I do, the essential oils in a carrier creates a perfect suspension, so it needs no further shaking.

But I’m paranoid… I once dumped a little Cinnamon Essential Oil in a hot bath to soothe a sprained muscle or something, but didn’t know that I had to add something to make the oil mix with the water. Long story short, I sat on a bubble of the pure oil, didn’t notice the irritation because the bath was so hot, and ended up with a nasty chemical burn on my ass cheek. :D So now, I’ve got it stuck in my head that if I don’t shake the EVO oil, I might get some concentrated Rosemary on my skin which would burn worse than the Cinnamon.

Also, anybody using non-essential oils in the EVO, like adding DMSO or ground Niacin, I’d shake just to be on the safe side.


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Hey, do you guys think the oil would work for a damaged lymph vessel as well?

Thanks

Originally Posted by dalegrief
Hey, do you guys think the oil would work for a damaged lymph vessel as well?

Thanks


Asked here and here.

Hope that helps.


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Originally Posted by dalegrief
Hey, do you guys think the oil would work for a damaged lymph vessel as well?

Thanks

I’m fairly convinced that is what I have. I think I injured a lymph vessel and it has responded by being enlarged and hard and lumpy.

I think this week is about a 2 week lay off with no real change in it. It is only slightly tender now, but still hard.

Nothing has really made any change for me, I’ve been using EVO alternated with castor oil.

I think I will resume some low vacuum pumping for about 3 sessions of 5 minutes with IR light and see if that may actually be beneficial for it.

The 2 week lay off should have been plenty of time for the tissue to heal. I now assume it is scarred.

I’m a little bummed because I am fairly careful, I think that I got in trouble using a vacuum hanger with 3-4 PE wts all day, then pumping or vacuum hanging that led to an accumulation of trauma.

The vacuum hanger, with the pe wts would actually draw a lot of lymph toward the glans. I think I over stressed these vessels for too many days in a row which I think led to the injury.

So here is an example of low to moderate forces over too long of a period leading to a problem….oh well, live and learn. :(

Sparkyx,

You might want to check this thread out ;)

Physiologic Indictors (PIs) to help growth!


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Eroset,

Just ordered some of the oils from Home Spa Organics. Going to try and use them on what appears to be a thrombosed lymph. I guess that is what it is. It is on top of my tool and at the base of my glands. There are two of them one on each side. I have quite doing anything for a week and it is subsiding, but I would really like to have something that will take it down faster like your vein. I know that this has been asked already, and I have read both places about it. Just wanted to let you know and was wondering if I got a good price (looked at several other sites) Total for all of them was $37.00. 5ml of each. I will be a little short on the lavendar oil for your mix, but I can cut the rest accordingly. Thanks for the post and I hope this stuff works for me like it did for you.


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Originally Posted by sparkyx
I think I will resume some low vacuum pumping for about 3 sessions of 5 minutes with IR light and see if that may actually be beneficial for it.

How’s that coming Sparky? Curious, since even though it seems contrary to logic, I’m fairly convinced that light jelqing is actually beneficial, by helping to get things moving again (once initial pain and inflammation go away). Wondering if low vacuum pumping would do the same.

I’d also suggest that you try to get your hands on that Lemongrass, buddy. I know I told you in a PM that you wouldn’t really miss it since the DMSO wouldn’t need the exfoliating properties of the Lemongrass to aid absorption, but I’m thinking you might be missing some of it’s other properties. I know it’s acidic structure helps thin out mucous, I assume that it might help do the same for lymph fluid.

Originally Posted by longman
Just wanted to let you know and was wondering if I got a good price (looked at several other sites) Total for all of them was $37.00. 5ml of each. I will be a little short on the lavendar oil for your mix, but I can cut the rest accordingly. Thanks for the post and I hope this stuff works for me like it did for you.

$37 is a bit steep for just 5ml of each. $27 or so can get you 4 oz of the Lavender and 2 oz of everything else from a wholesale distributor, see this post if you need to re-order oils: New Shopping List for Essential Oils


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Originally Posted by mgus
Sparkyx,

You might want to check this thread out ;)

Physiologic Indictors (PIs) to help growth!

Excellent advice!!! :)

I haven’t really posted much for a while because I have been experimenting quite a bit. I actually was making very good gains until this injury.

I thought I was safe with low to moderate forces for longer periods of time…but appearently not.

Originally Posted by Eroset
How’s that coming Sparky? Curious, since even though it seems contrary to logic, I’m fairly convinced that light jelqing is actually beneficial, by helping to get things moving again (once initial pain and inflammation go away). Wondering if low vacuum pumping would do the same.

I’d also suggest that you try to get your hands on that Lemongrass, buddy. I know I told you in a PM that you wouldn’t really miss it since the DMSO wouldn’t need the exfoliating properties of the Lemongrass to aid absorption, but I’m thinking you might be missing some of it’s other properties. I know it’s acidic structure helps thin out mucous, I assume that it might help do the same for lymph fluid.

Thanks for checking up on me!

I decided to try low vacuum, short periods of time because just leaving it alone is going nowhere.

I thought it might actually pump the lymph vessels and aid in healing if I go real easy. Kind of like getting up and using a pulled muscle so it increases circulation and heals faster. That is probably your experience with light jelquing.

I just did one session so far, and it isn’t worse…maybe a little better.

I’ll take your advice on that lemongrass…actually I want to order all the eo’s from your source and see if it makes a difference.

Ok, I’ve read through most of this thread, and I remember hearing somewhere about this oil helping with discoloration. Is this accurate? And is that using the original recipe or an altered version. Also, does it help with redness/irritation? I’m very eager to try some of this stuff since I started clamping a couple months ago. I wanna make sure my veins stay healthy and if it can help with some of the discoloration that would be great too. This sure was a great discovery. Awesome job.

Sounds good Sparky.

Slick, I have no idea about it’s possible effect on discoloration. I have had an overall darkening after 2 months of exercise (and 1 month of rest), it’s not drastic, or uneven… just a general darkening. Mild, but enough so that the wife noticed. She thinks it’s attractive, I don’t mind it, so I haven’t given it any more thought really. If anything, my guess would be that Essential Oils might help with darkening from bruising, but beyond that, I’m not sure how, or if it could effect Hemosiderin (see Hobby’s “Shedding the Snake” thread). The exfoliant properties of one or two of them might help a bit too, but I can’t be sure. Understand, this is pure speculation, for all I know this stuff could make your darkening worse.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

Eroset,

Here’s a weird update; woke up this morning with the problem about 97% gone!

I assumed that it was a blockage that cleared. I don’t know if it was an actual object in the lymph vessel or some damage to the lymph vessel resulting in constriction and congestion of lymph.

I think it was the latter, because of how it REAPPEARED!

Since it was gone, I thought that the low vacuum approach had been what had helped.

So naturally I did my 2 in hg for 3 sets of 5 minutes again. It became slightly congested again, but really, minor.

So, trying to get back into my routine that was working so well, I finish the 15 minutes with a wide cock ring type constriction (1/2 in wide velcro strap) to keep max engorgement, then into the shower for a cold rinse to bring down the tissue temperature (kept elevated during vacuum with IR) in the expanded state. I was using the clamp and neoprene strip, for 5 minutes under the IR then into the cold shower. By the way, this works really good!

So far, so good. I then follow with a thera-p wrap tightly around the base, and 1-2 pe wts (Monty’s) worn the rest of the day.

About an hour after the wraps and wt, I checked and the lymph vessel was swollen and hard again.

This makes sense, because I think this is what went wrong the first time. I was using a vacuum hanger to hold on 4 pe wts for about 6 hours. It seemed to really draw a lot of lymph to the glans, and I think that is what inflammed the lymph vessel.

Even though I didn’t use my vacuum hanger, I tend to get some lymph congestion when I wrap the thera-p band tightly around the base. I think this caused the congestion to re-appear.

Later today, I used the vacuum again at 2 in hg and followed with EVO and massage and that made the vessel go down about 80% again.

As of right now it is again about 90% better.

Conclusions;

(I will continue with the vacuum, heat and cold routine, but skip the ADS and thera-p wrap for several more weeks to let the vessel heal completely.)

1 Don’t keep lymph vessels engorged for any long period of time.

2 Mild vacuum MAY help pump lymph vessels (for short periods of time).

3 EVO and castor oil have healing properties,and are certainly worth applying while trying to heal blood vessels and lymph vessels.


Last edited by sparkyx : 08-21-2005 at .

Going from your theory that it’s more like lymph congestion, here’s another thought Sparky, If the EVO gets down into the lymph fluid and helps it’s “mobility” by thinning it out, or aiding fluid passage through membranes, then it might be possible to say that it could both help and hurt your lymphocele. Let’s see if I can articulate this…assuming the treated lymph is more mobile, it should respond well to the heat and massage, and light vacuum or light jelqing to help redistribute the fluid, getting everything back in it’s place and moving again. The flip side to that would be, that a more mobile fluid would also be more susceptible to getting forced out of place and collecting (swelling) with activities like extended clamping or constriction, wrapping with PE Weights, etc. Does that make sense?

Maybe the test here Sparky would be to treat it again like you did until you get the swelling back down to your previous 97% gone. Then give it a few days with no EVO (I’d remove the Castor packs from the equation at that point too). Then try the routine again that brought back the swelling, but do it without the EVO and see what happens. You follow me? I can’t imagine the effects of the oil would last very long at all, but I’m guessing a few days off the oil before trying, just to be on the safe side.


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

My gut feeling on this whole thing is that the EVO did nothing to cause harm.

Many times I have produced hard swollen lymph vessels from pumping, vacuum hanging and or constriction (clamps,rings, straps etc). This is way before the advent of EVO.

Usually with massage I am able to make them go away fairly quickly. I think I got into trouble with the combination of a vacuum hanger and ADS with 4 of Monty’s wts, over a period of about a week.

This would then be followed with either pumping or using the vacuum stretcher. This was pulling lymph to my glans almost the whole day. The glans would rebound nicely within a few minutes of removal of the force and massage…so I wasn’t concerned.

I wasn’t considering the effect it could have on the lymph vessels though which the lymph was being drawn to the glans.

Because of the way that it suddenly went down, then flared briefly…I think the vessel walls themselves became inflamed, which allowed the lymph to be pulled up and past them under vacuum, but natural drainage didn’t have enough pressure to push past the blockage, thus causing congestion of the vessel.

Once I left it alone long enough for the vessel to heal and the swelling went down enough, the fluid was able to drain.

I know from past experience that Castor oil has almost miraculous healing properties, and especially effects lymph drainage. I know from using the EVO on other areas of my body that it also accelerates healing.

I speculated that light vacuum pumping on the entire penis might help pump out the restricted lymph by opening up the vessels without irritating them. This as opposed to just vacuum force on the glans which merely pulled a lot of lymph up towards the glans without dilation the lymph vessels (or blood vessels).

I am really hesitant to do anything that will bring back the swelling for a while. That lymph vessel was really strained, and I don’t want it to respond with fibrosis (scarring) because then I could end up with a chronicly sensitive vessel because of narrowing of the channel due to scar tissue.

I will give it a few weeks with just pumping, brief clamping (5 minutes)EVO and Castor oil. Once I feel it is back to normal and HEALED, I will then slowly add the wts and thera-p wrap combination, starting with 1-2 wts and short periods of time.

So in conclusion, even if EVO thins out the lymph fluid (remember I didn’t have lemon grass in mine), I strongly feel it was that I was keeping the lymph vessels stretched and congested for long periods of time that caused the injury…not the EVO.

Along with what you’re planning, I would start taking a few grams of Bromelain per day on an empty stomach. It will help keep any inflammation moderate, and most likely reduce lymphatic response drastically. It’s dirt cheap too (www.1fast400.com “Now” brand works well).

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