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Eroset's Vein Oil - for thrombosis and more

Eroset,

you mentioned your wifes recipe for coconut jelq butter. Is that a trade secret of hers, or are you free to share the recipe? Just curious if I could mix it together.


regards, mgus

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Originally Posted by Eroset
I agree with you Shiver. DMSO with EVO is the first thing that came to mind as far as experimenting, and I am going to try it, I think, with a very low concentration of DMSO, but the more I research, the more I think it might not be the best idea. From my research (and understand I’m in WAY over my head here… not being a molecular chemist) it seems that some of the EOs, Rosemary and Lemongrass, accomplish their lipopholic penetration through the “fat layers” of the dermis, by “giving up” or “sacrificing” certain chemicals in the process. While I can’t find specific clinical evidence to confirm it yet, I get the idea that these compounds that are sacrificed are the most volatile, and responsible for irritation in higher concentrations, and these are best left sacrificed to the upper layers of the dermis, not whisked through the protective barrier of the skin into deeper tissues. I’m going to have to join PubMed so I can get more than just the extracts. Every time I come across something valuable, I’ve got to hit 10 or 12 more documents just to try to understand what it is I’m reading in the first article.

Hey PEst… you still using a mixture without Lemongrass? Just curious… those little subcutaneous veins becoming more prominent but not the other heavier veins seems odd. Makes me think you might not be getting down deep enough. I, for one, have noticed considerable prominence in my dorsal vein, as well as a ton of the little tiny veins appearing.

Yeah, I am still using it without the lemongrass. Although your theory may be right about it, it is still very safe for me to say that it has DEFINATELY begun to heal my very damaged dick really well. About 10 minutes ago I let myself get FULLY erect so I could have a feel round for any weird bumps and stuff and it has all calmed down! I had no mild pain in my dick which I used to get when hard, I can now grip my erect unit without it having that “boney” feeling which I complained of.

One thing is clear - my healing is faster on this oil and my flacid hang actually is a hang now.


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

Eroset’s Vein Oil sound interesting but the smell would likely draw my wife’s attention and I am sure she would disapprove of these exercises.

To treat my thrombosed vein, I used Hirudoid cream and I was very pleased with how quick it worked. A plus was that it didn’t have a real strong Oder either. I forget the exact time frame but it seems like it cleared up in less than 5 days.

I don’t have the technical expertise to analysis the ingredients to determine if the Hirudoid cream could have the same results on the veins as Eroset’s oil does so, hopefully a more knowledgeable member will be able to help out.

Here the link to a web site that sells Hirudoid http://www.expressgroup.co.nz/shop/…88-hirudoid.htm and the following is a description copied from that site:
Percutaneously active antithrombotic and anti-inflammatory

Medicine Classification:
General Sale

Purpose:
Topical treatment of superficial phlebitis and thrombosis
Inflammed varicose veins
Follow-up treatment after sclerosing of varicose veins
General care of the veins (prevention of phlebitis)

Ingredients:
40g of cream contain:
Mucopolysaccharide polysulfuric acid ester 300mg
(Organa-Heparinoid “Luitpold”) 25 000 you.

General:
Properties
Hirudoid strongly inhibits inflammation, augments absorption of exudates and edema speedily relieves pain and tension in the afflicted region promotes regeneration of connective tissue. Hirudoid is well tolerated by the skin and other tissues and does not irritate the skin. Shortens the duration of the disorder. Haematomata and other soft tissue injuries. Softening of hard scars. To improve scars of injuries, burns, surgical operations etc.

Warning:
For external use only
Not to be used concurrently with Warfarin
Avoid applying to bleeding or infected areas
Avoid contact with the eyes

Dosage:
If not otherwise directed by the physician, a length of cream (3-5cm) should be applied to or gently massaged into the afflicted site once or twice daily.

In cases of particularly painful inflammations or thrombosis the afflicted region and it’s environs should be gently covered with Hirudoid on which a dressing should be applied. Hirudoid should in those cases also be massaged gently into the surrounds of the afflicted site, so as to intensify the total effect.

For the softening of hard scars the cream should be massaged forcefully into the area.

Hope this info helps some and thanks for help that has come from this wonderful forum.

Haven’t got enough time to read your post just now mate - but you could always say you use this mixture for your stomach because you get stomach cramps :)

I use it for my stomach too, I believe it could help with my ulcerative colitis.


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

EVO smells great, perhaps you can convince your wife that it’s some kind of erotic massage oil and that she should apply it for you?

Two or three times a day :mwink: ?

Have I mentioned that I think this stuff may be interesting as an erotic lube for her? After all, it does work on the principal of vaso-dilation. Personally I’ve given up on all synthetic lubes in favor of Olive Oil- maybe this is the next step?


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Well it’s been a week now that I’ve been using the oil.First few days I didn’t notice anything different other than the vascularity of my tool while jelqing.But this morning I woke up and the veins in my hands are huge!Just kidding.I had the best morning wood this morning that I’ve had in years!What a glorious day!I’m definately gonna send for the ingredients through Evos source for my next batch,but this stuff rocks!! Thanks Evo.

I second that, thanks evo. Sorry - I haven’t had much time to talk on thunders today as I have been working like a bitch. Hope to talk to you all again properly on monday :)

Take care all.


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

Mrs. E's Jelq Butter

Originally Posted by mgus
Eroset,

you mentioned your wifes recipe for coconut jelq butter. Is that a trade secret of hers, or are you free to share the recipe? Just curious if I could mix it together.


Trade secret! :chuckle: Nah… just been out of town a few days.

The original formula for Mrs. E’s Jelq Butter:
- Shea Butter ( http://beauty.about.com/od/beautybyag3/f/sheabutter.htm this is amazing stuff)
- Virgin Coconut oil (unbleached, unhydroxized. Very slickery and moisturizing, believed to help keep connective tissues supple. Hard to find a lot of good info on, most people are focused on eating the stuff)
- Cocoa Butter (raw, undeoderized … yummy)
- Jojoba oil
- Emu oil (No longer in the mix, but was in the original batch)
- Lavender Essential Oil
- Bee's Wax OR Emulsifying Wax (Vegetable)
- Water (hence the need for an emulsifying agent like Bee’s Wax)

That’s the base mixture. To that we’ve experimented with
- Olive Oil (trying to make it last a bit longer, the jojoba absorbs very quickly and it seems the Shea butter does as well)
- Palm and Palm Kernel Oil
- Rosemary Essential Oil (sound familiar?)
- Geranium Essential Oil (I don’t care that it’s a vasodilator or improves circulation, I absolutely hate the smell)
- Cassia Essential Oil (curious to see if the warming effect translated to a ‘warm-up’ effect on deeper tissues like the ligs, haven’t had a chance to play much with it yet)
- Peppermint Essential Oil (in one batch, was VERY stimulating, but then I dumped it when I learned it was a pretty powerful vasoconstrictor, that may not be a bad thing, but when I was dealing with a thrombosed vein, I wasn’t going to mess around with it.)

I don’t have any kind of measurements for you, sorry… I just didn’t get that far with it before necessity dictated the creation of EVO. We were kind of mixing by “feel”, but I’ll tell you that the Shea Butter and Coconut Oil, mixed evenly made up for about 60-75% of the entire oil.

One of the things I like about this is that it’s a solid at room temperature, and melts in contact with the heat from your skin. It makes it very convenient to use, just scoop the fingers into the tub one handed and not miss a jelq stroke. No pouring or spilling. Also very easy clean-up. Very mild smell, almost unnoticeable.

Also might be worth mentioning that we just love the straight virgin coconut oil as a sex lube. It feels fabulous, and is not only edible, but doesn’t taste bad. Very mild taste, the only lube we’ve ever used which the missus doesn’t mind going down on me with (and visa versa). It’s nice to be able to lube up for play time and not have to rule out oral after the lube.

As far as mixing it with EVO, mgus, it’s something I’m considering. It seems the Butter’s base would lend a lot more fatty-acids to the mix which would help at least one part of the transdermal delivery process.

Originally Posted by sizematters
Eroset’s Vein Oil sound interesting but the smell would likely draw my wife’s attention and I am sure she would disapprove of these exercises.

To treat my thrombosed vein, I used Hirudoid cream and I was very pleased with how quick it worked. A plus was that it didn’t have a real strong Oder either. I forget the exact time frame but it seems like it cleared up in less than 5 days.

Yeah, I wanted to get my hands on some of that, but decided to see what the wife’s EO’s could do instead. You’re right, this is NOT stealth stuff, it’s pretty fragrant.

I don’t know much about it, but I gather that Hirudoid cream wouldn’t be practical in everyday use as a preventative, would it?

Originally Posted by 8 is enough
Well it’s been a week now that I’ve been using the oil.First few days I didn’t notice anything different other than the vascularity of my tool while jelqing.But this morning I woke up and the veins in my hands are huge!Just kidding.I had the best morning wood this morning that I’ve had in years!What a glorious day!I’m definately gonna send for the ingredients through Evos source for my next batch,but this stuff rocks!! Thanks Evo.

Ahhh you jest, but just the other day my wife asked if the veins on the back of my hands have always been that pronounced. Could be coincidence, but I do get this stuff all over me when I jelq. :D Glad it’s working out for you 8!


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Interestingly, I can’t find Hirudoid here at local pharmacies. I note that Google brings up UK sources/ references. Can anyone direct me to a US brand name equivalent?


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Originally Posted by sparkyx
Eroset,

Has anyone tried adding DMSO to the mix yet?

Hey sparks-

Check here.


WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

Something REALLY odd has happened - my dorsal vein has disappeared!!! How the hell can that happen? Where has it gone? It is normally incredibly prominent. I think it is time to put on some more oil…

*splash splash splash* Ahhh my eyes!


May the force (of your hand) be with you. :littleguy

Awesome thread! I use a mix of base oils: avocado, and olive oil (sometimes hemp, grapeseed or jojobo) to mouisturize my scalp and hair/dreads. And whatever the combination of those base oils is, i add 12-14 drops per ounce of base oil of rosemary and lavender oil for their benefactory hair and scalp related benefits. (reducing hair breakage, promoting cell growth, hair growth, strengthening follicles, reducing scalp pain and itchiness, fending off bugs and mold and fungus)

Just a few more oils to buy!

Well, I’ve been using this concoction for 4 days now (2 -3 times a day, massage and rice sock heat) and its working great. I had a lump roughly the size of a grain of rice and the thing is shrinking. After the end of the first day I was thinking “nope… not gonna work…” but as of this typing, it’s much better. And its main ingredients have been Extra virgin olive oil, lavender, and rosemary. I didn’t add the clary sage or the lemongrass because I couldn’t get any, so its working well enough without those oils. Perhaps it would work faster with them. I hope I never have to find out :-,

In that case my head tonic just turned into a wonder elixer!

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