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Done With Newbie Routine, What Now

Done With Newbie Routine, What Now

Ok so I have been doing the Newbie Routine for 6 weeks now and I feel that it’s time to move on to a new workout or just add some stuff to it! I have not gained any length or girth from the 6 weeks that I have been on it. However, I do feel that I have strengthened up my penis and I feel that the Kegels have helped a lot! But it would be nice to see some gains from all of those Jelqs and all of that stretching! I know that it has only been 6 weeks and I wasn’t expecting some crazy results or anything. However, I was thinking about adding Hanging into my routine Pulse different stretches!

Does anyone do manual stretching as well as Hanging in their routine, and is it recommended?
I heard of Bigger’s Hanger, is this a good hanger and does anyone know how to make one?
Also I’ve hear of Monty’s PE Weights, are these any good, and how do I use them?
One last thing, does anyone have or recommend a certain routine?
Thanks Guys!

The Bib hanger is a commercial model and will cost you some $. Not all but most of my gains are due to using a Bib. http://www.bibhanger.com/

Homemade Hanger Models and Instructions is a link list of threads that will walk you through step by step on a number of home made hangers. Read through and see what you think. If I was getting into hanging for the first time I would go with the Wench based on ease of building and comfort of wear. Only down side seems to be slippage with weights greater than 15lbs. Plenty of guys like the chicken choker as well.

While you read and think about hangers keep doing the manual stuff.


Running a Massive Co-Front.

I’d suggest that whatever you do, consider increasing time/effort gradually. There seems to be a delicate balance between getting results and overdoing it. If you overdo it, you just get a strong dick that doesn’t grow.

“Mem’s momentoues gain mechanism” is a worthwhile thread to read.


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

Originally Posted by viva51
Ok so I have been doing the Newbie Routine for 6 weeks now and I feel that it’s time to move on to a new workout or just add some stuff to it! I have not gained any length or girth from the 6 weeks that I have been on it. However, I do feel that I have strengthened up my penis and I feel that the Kegels have helped a lot! But it would be nice to see some gains from all of those Jelqs and all of that stretching! I know that it has only been 6 weeks and I wasn’t expecting some crazy results or anything. However, I was thinking about adding Hanging into my routine Pulse different stretches!

Does anyone do manual stretching as well as Hanging in their routine, and is it recommended?
I heard of Bigger’s Hanger, is this a good hanger and does anyone know how to make one?
Also I’ve hear of Monty’s PE Weights, are these any good, and how do I use them?
One last thing, does anyone have or recommend a certain routine?
Thanks Guys!

Viva,

Keep doing the newbie routine until you hit the 3 months. Then send me an PM. Reason why you should keep doing the newbie routine is that you can safely do advanced exercises like clamping and advanced stretches when you have done the newbie routine for 3 consistent months. You are pretty safe then, when you start these now, risk of an injury is high. You don’t want to injure your dick, do you?

When you want some changes in your routine, slowly increase time, like Mgus suggested.

Thanks Guys for your help!
Bird2 and mgus, I know that I’m supposed to increase time/effort gradually, but I’m not sure if I increased it too much within these past 6 weeks?

Each week I would warm-up with my rice sock for 5 min. I increased about 3-4 min. For Jelqing and about 2 min. For stretching each week. So by the 4th week I was doing 9-10 min. Stretching using the Wenchette, I was doing about 60 sec. For each direction that I’m suppose to stretch in. Example: 60 sec. For downward stretch, 60 sec. For upward stretch, 60 sec. For left and down and right and down stretch, and 60 sec. For counter-clockwise stretch. Then I would do it over again one more time (since obviously, ten 60 sec. Stretches equals 10 min.) I would then do another warm-up with my rice sock before I jelqed. I have not reached 30 min. Of jelqing yet I’m only at about 17 min. Which is about 340 strokes.
Let me know if you guys think I increased too fast! Or if you think I should increase more?

One more thing, mgus can you give me a link to “Mem’s momentoues gain mechanism”. For some reason I couldn’t find it. Thanks!

One more thing, I took some days off through the six weeks that I have been PEing because of soreness or spots. So I didn’t want to jump back into things and dramatically increase the time after an injury that is why the duration of stretching and Jelqing has not changed since week 4. This week, week 7 I’m increasing my time.


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

Originally Posted by viva51
Thanks Guys for your help!
Bird2 and mgus, I know that I’m supposed to increase time/effort gradually, but I’m not sure if I increased it too much within these past 6 weeks?

Each week I would warm-up with my rice sock for 5 min. I increased about 3-4 min. For Jelqing and about 2 min. For stretching each week. So by the 4th week I was doing 9-10 min. Stretching using the Wenchette, I was doing about 60 sec. For each direction that I’m suppose to stretch in. Example: 60 sec. For downward stretch, 60 sec. For upward stretch, 60 sec. For left and down and right and down stretch, and 60 sec. For counter-clockwise stretch. Then I would do it over again one more time (since obviously, ten 60 sec. Stretches equals 10 min.) I would then do another warm-up with my rice sock before I jelqed. I have not reached 30 min. Of jelqing yet I’m only at about 17 min. Which is about 340 strokes.
Let me know if you guys think I increased too fast! Or if you think I should increase more?

One more thing, mgus can you give me a link to “Mem’s momentoues gain mechanism”. For some reason I couldn’t find it. Thanks!

You might have overdone it but now you know it, and you can solve it. Just relax, keep doing this routine and look for indicators that you do PE correctly. If you have positive indicators and you feel that it is time to move on, increase your time. If you feel for what kind of reason, doesn’t matter what, that you aren’t ready to increase your PE time, don’t do it.

Originally Posted by Bird2

You might have overdone it but now you know it, and you can solve it. Just relax, keep doing this routine and look for indicators that you do PE correctly. If you have positive indicators and you feel that it is time to move on, increase your time. If you feel for what kind of reason, doesn’t matter what, that you aren’t ready to increase your PE time, don’t do it.

Although I am a Newbie myself, I was just about to ask Bird2 whether it was due to “too heavy” routine as a Newbie what viva51 reported. I am even on a “reduced” Newbie routine taking it slow and easy but dedicated and already saw gains after 4 weeks. I published them at NEW newbie + advanced routine

I think the problem of most Newbies is “over-enthusiasm”


Last edited by starter47 : 08-02-2006 at .

Originally Posted by starter47
Although I am a Newbie myself, I was just about to ask Bird2 whether it was due to “too heavy” routine as a Newbie what viva51 reported. I am even on a “reduced” Newbie rotine taking it slow and easy by dedicated and already saw gains after 4 weeks. I publish them at I think the problem of most Newbies is “over-enthusiasm”

I agree with your statement.

Originally Posted by starter47
Although I am a Newbie myself, I was just about to ask Bird2 whether it was due to “too heavy” routine as a Newbie what viva51 reported. I am even on a “reduced” Newbie routine taking it slow and easy but dedicated and already saw gains after 4 weeks. I published them at NEW newbie + advanced routine
I think the problem of most Newbies is “over-enthusiasm”

So what kind of gains have you seen from this “reduced” Newbie Routine?
Is it J123’s Linear Routine for Newbie that you’re on?
My stats are: EL-7.25, EG-5, I’m trying to get to EL-8.25 or 8.5, EG-5.5 OR 6
Why can’t I do any stretching for the first week or two? And then only add 1 stretch per week? Does this mean I can only do one stretch in each direction for 30 sec. Each? Also, there are so few jelqs?
I want to gain girth as well as length, but how can I if I only stretch once a week?!
Starter47, please understand that I’m not trying to cut down your routine by any means.
Just please help me to understand this better.

Hey starter or anyone please comment.

Originally Posted by viva51
Hey starter or anyone please comment.


Sorry Viva51, I have been out, travelling.

I will try to answer your questions:

Originally Posted by viva51
So what kind of gains have you seen from this “reduced” Newbie Routine?


I just posted my progress in starter47 - NEW newbie + advanced routine
You may see it as not much. But for me it’s success.

Originally Posted by viva51
Is it J123’s Linear Routine for Newbie that you’re on?


Yes. That’s right.

Originally Posted by viva51
My stats are: EL-7.25, EG-5, I’m trying to get to EL-8.25 or 8.5, EG-5.5 OR 6


I wish I had that. Don’t laugh. Your present stats are my goals.

Originally Posted by viva51
Why can’t I do any stretching for the first week or two? And then only add 1 stretch per week? Does this mean I can only do one stretch in each direction for 30 sec. Each? Also, there are so few jelqs?
I want to gain girth as well as length, but how can I if I only stretch once a week?!


As I wrote earlier, I am a Newbie myself. There are experts like Bird2 and J123 just to mention two - No offences made to other experts :) -
who could explain better.
No one said that you have to stretch only once a week. What we said was that according to your initial posting you may have been overdoing. Just keep doing the Newbie Routine for 3 months. Keep statistics. Then post your results. I am sure you will achieve gains. If not there are a lot of people here who could analyse and let you know what to do.
Best of luck !

Thank starter!
My EL length of 7.25 is actually BPEL. I just forgot to put up the BP part! But the EG is still 5. Anyway, it’s cool man everyone has to start somewhere! I tell my friends about PEing and they think it sounds weird of stupid. Hey but let them be ones with small dicks! At least were doing something about it!

Thanks for the tips! I have taken a break from PEing, I think I was too enthusiastic about it and tried to hard! Anyway I’m getting back into it! And I think the Newbie Linear Routine is the way to go!

So do you only do one stretch per session like the routine says or do you do more stretches like the Original Newbie Routine? See I’m really interested in gaining Length! I do want girth as well.

Anyway, let me know your thoughts!

Originally Posted by viva51

Thank starter!

My EL length of 7.25 is actually BPEL. I just forgot to put up the BP part! But the EG is still 5. Anyway, it’s cool man everyone has to start somewhere! I tell my friends about PEing and they think it sounds weird of stupid. Hey but let them be ones with small dicks! At least were doing something about it!

You’re welcome.

As for the other people who think otherwise about PE, just forget them. I do believe and have proved myself.

Originally Posted by viva51

Thanks for the tips! I have taken a break from PEing, I think I was too enthusiastic about it and tried to hard! Anyway I’m getting back into it! And I think the Newbie Linear Routine is the way to go!

It’s good to rest sometimes. It is also good to vary the cycle. I read somewhere someone wrote in this forum that you should not allow the unit to guess what is coming next :)

I too suggest that you try the instructions of J123. Although I saw it later, when I started PE I too did not want to overdo. I read enough posts with horrifying stories of guys overdoing and damaging their penis.

Originally Posted by viva51

So do you only do one stretch per session like the routine says or do you do more stretches like the Original Newbie Routine? See I’m really interested in gaining Length! I do want girth as well.

I think you have misunderstood. It says one stretch per each direction. That means actually five stretches. Read again.

As for me I don’t stretch every session. I also vary. For e.g. Sometimes, I stretch first then jelq - sometimes other way around. Some sessions I don’t stetch at all.

I saw your post in J123’s thread. He will respond.

One last advise: Be patient. PE is not an express train. Also keep accurate stats measuring at regular intervals (but not too often. Gains need time and sometimes it can be frustrating when you see no gains when measured at short intervals).

Also, I have noticed that I get different measurements at different times. So I think some standard has to be followed. For example measuring at the same time of the day. I measure every two weeks just before bed time.(I only publish every 4 weeks)

PE is Patience, Dedication and Perseverance


Last edited by starter47 : 08-11-2006 at .
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