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Do surveys lie ?

I got a good one for you guys to know!

My forty four year old girlfriend from Canada says that my 7.5” bpel by 6.5” girth (near glans) dink is average (acceptable) in thickness but about an inch too short in length!

The first time I screwed her it slid right in with no problem and it didn’t hit anything in there! After doing PE for several months (because of this problem), I can now give her pretty good cervical stimulation when her vagina is in the aroused/expanded state (she’s happier to say the least).

Penis size to a woman is all about relativity. Even though she only admits to being sexually involved with nine men total in her life, we all know that number could easily be doubled in truth. Obviously she has been with a lot of men that are way above the average size statistics. Does any one think that this could be something relative to Canadian men?

Also, she said that Canadian men aren’t butchered by their circumcisions like US men are. If Canada circumcises differently than the US, could there be a connection with size in this regard?

Sorry everybody, but from what I’ve learned from her and also from what I’ve seen growing up (locker room, skinny dipping, sauna, etc.) I definitely agree with mr huge_. There are a lot more big ones out there than you think.


Well, it’s most common for people to be uncut here in europe, and the avarage is the same over here in the surveys of several europeean countries I’ve seen.

"You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts."

Let’s now look at the basic facts.

Length of the penis

To the average man, his penis is, consciously or unconsciously, one of the most important things in the whole world. At an early age he discovers it and immediately becomes fascinated by it.

But then a note of uncertainty enters his mind: ‘Isn’t mine rather small?’ Look at his Dad’s; look at his big brother’s; look at those he sees in the changing room at the swimming bath. And he asks himself if he will ever be as big as that.

And so he goes on through life, always a tiny bit sensitive about the size of his organ, always convinced that it would be nicer if it were just that little bit longer. No matter how often textbooks repeat that penile size doesn’t matter, and that women aren’t attracted to a man because of the length of his organ, the average male continues to think the same way.

The average female is amused at the sheer folly of men in being so obsessed with their penile measurements. So if you’re a woman, the one thing you need to bear in mind about this ludicrous male preoccupation is this: when in bed with a man, never belittle his penis (even as a joke) or say anything to indicate that you think it’s small - the poor chap may take you seriously, and if he does, he’ll be deeply hurt.

We have actually known men who became impotent after someone had made an unthinking remark about their dimensions.

Now, the ridiculous thing about all this was that all of these men had a perfectly normal male organ. Each one just thought he was very small compared with other men.

The trouble is that every man sees his own phallus in a foreshortened view - the angle at which he looks down on it inevitably makes it seem shorter than it is. Of course, when he glances at another man’s organ in a changing room, there’s no such foreshortening effect, so very often it’ll look as though the other guy is slightly better endowed than him. A lifetime of comparison of this sort (and virtually every male does a quick mental check on each naked man he comes across) can very easily make a man feel a bit inadequate.

But it’s important for a man to realise the true facts about the length of the penis. When it is in a non-erect condition, the male organ usually measures between 8.5cm (just over 3”) and 10.5cm (just over 4”) from tip to base. The average figure is about 9.5cm (or 3 ¾”), but this kind of precise measurement is really rather valueless because so many factors (for instance, cold weather or going swimming) can temporarily cause a shrinkage of an inch or more. So you needn’t be worried if you happen to fall short of the average figure.

Of course, it’s true that some men have big penises and some have smaller ones, just as some men have small feet and some have big feet, but the measurement is not - repeat not - an index of virility. By and large, a non-erect penis is big or small largely because of the degree to which its veins and other blood vessels are open or shut.

Most people imagine that a tall, husky man will usually have a large penis, but this is not so at all. The distinguished American researchers Masters and Johnson measured the penile lengths of over 300 men. The largest organ (measuring 14 cm, or 5 ½” in the flaccid state) belonged to a slim man who was only 5’ 7” tall; the smallest (measuring 6cm, or 2 ¼”) belonged to a fairly heavily built man of 5’ 11”.

It’s also worth pointing out that there is no correlation between penile size and race.

The erect penis

We’ve talked so far about the length of the male organ in its ordinary non-erect state. But now long should it be when it’s erect? Well, the interesting thing here is that most penises are very much the same size when erect. The man whose non-erect organ is smallish will usually achieve about 100 per cent increase in length during sexual excitement, while the man whose limp penis is on the largish size will probably only manage about a 75 per cent increase. In round figures, this means that the great majority of men measure between 15cm (6”) and 18cm (7”) in the erect position, with the average figure being about 16.5cm (6 ½”).

So you can see that even if a man genuinely has got an organ that is small when he’s in the non-erect state, he’s also got a built in compensating factor that will probably bring him up to not far off the same size as the guy he sees in the shower room who appears to be vastly ‘better equipped’ sexually.

There’s one final point that’s of great importance and that virtually every man forgets: it doesn’t matter how long or how short your penis is, because the vagina is so cunningly designed that it will accommodate itself to any length of penis.

You see, the vagina of a woman who hasn’t had a child is only a mere 7.5cm (3”) long when she’s not sexually excited. The figures for women who have had babies are only slightly different. And even when she has been aroused, her vagina usually extends only to a length of about 10cm (4”). So it’s obvious that any man’s penis will fill her vagina completely, unless, of course, he happens to be one of those very, very rare guys with an erect penile length of less than 4”.

You’re probably wondering how on earth a man with an average length penis of 6 ½” manages to insert his penis into a normal woman’s vagina at all. Well, the answer is quite simple - the vagina has the most remarkable capacity for lengthening if something is introduced into it gradually. So the exceptional man whose penis is, say, 20.5cm (8”) long can still make love to literally any woman, providing he excites her properly and introduces his organ very slowly. If he does this, her vagina will quite happily lengthen by 150 per cent or even 200 per cent to accommodate him.

Medical advice

If you’re really worried that your penis is the wrong size, go and consult a doctor. If you’re not happy about consulting your GP on such an intimate matter, then you could go and see one of the medics who spend their entire day checking men’s penises.

These doctors can be found at:

* urology clinics

* sex medicine clinics

* genitourinary medicine (GUM) clinics

* family planning clinics - though these do tend to be more oriented towards female patients.

What about operations?

A number of private clinics - in London and elsewhere - now offer operations that claim to make the penis look bigger. The expense of this type of surgery is very great! And there is a risk of complications, like bleeding, infection, or deformity.

We recommend that you do not agree to undergo such surgery unless you have seen an NHS consultant urologist who feels that you really need it.

Very occasionally, a man with a big penis feels that he wants it reduced in size. This can be done, but there is quite a risk that the operation might go wrong. Again, we advise you not to have this operation unless an NHS consultant urologist has said it is necessary.

Last updated 1.7.2001

Originally posted by beowulf
The average female is amused at the sheer folly of men in being so obsessed with their penile measurements. So if you're a woman, the one thing you need to bear in mind about this ludicrous male preoccupation is this: when in bed with a man, never belittle his penis (even as a joke) or say anything to indicate that you think it's small - the poor chap may take you seriously, and if he does, he'll be deeply hurt.


Obviously you are a medical professional of some sort who probably also advocates circumcision. Not to offend you, but I would guess as well that you are also of average or small proportions yourself, otherwise you would know first hand what a long/large penis does for a woman in the bedroom.

Sure, some women are amused at our insecurity/preoccupation of our penile sizes. Trust me on this though, they aren’t amused when they are on the receiving end of a hard, above average sized penis! My woman happens to appreciate that I am making an effort to become larger for her increased pleasure. If she read your post, I guarantee that would amuse her!


Last edited by r0ad_h0gg : 12-16-2003 at .


>>What about Mr. Huge’s reply to me? Where is his admonition? I was being honest in my opinion of his story. That is all. I do not have any apologies for it. I personally do not believe his story.>>

Neither do I. You flamed first. I don’t ask you to apologize, just know that further flaming will result in action. I don’t care who it is who flames. You got one in, he got one in return. You are both warned

Check it out guys, no need to have a big dick if you ain't gonna use it!!

beo, 6.5” bonepressed?

A bonepressed survey here in sweden ended up at 6” bonepressed :o . The same with, that ended up at 6.4” bonepressed, and that was self measured.

"You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts."


Hey, I’m really sorry about what I said in post #64 if it offended you. After posting (too late to change it) I read some of your other posts and I learned that you are also a man preoccupied with your size. In all reality, much of what you said and quoted in post #63 I do agree with. And yes, it definitely does make us feel better about what we have. I misunderstood, thinking that you didn’t agree with PE or that bigger is better.

Unfortunately, in my experience, the more you have to put into the vagina, the more pleasurable it will feel to her. Sex is even more pleasurable for myself when I’m larger than normal from PE.

Good luck gaining beowulf - don’t give up. It’s definitely a worth while thing to do.


Thanks Road Hogg. It has been a tough road for me thus far, but I will keep on keeping on. Peace.

Krowax, yes it is BPEL but I am now 6 3/4” getting close to 7”. I hope I get it. Peace.

Gotcha, Luvdadus. I know that is your job as a moderator. I didn’t think that I said anything offensive though and I thought I was within the guidelines. I have a propensity to speak my mind and I don’t think there is anything wrong with that, but I could have done it in a more diplomatic way. I just can’t stand posts that seem blatantly ludicrous and many threads here have turned out to be fabricated. People are called out here all the time if one thinks they are not being forthright, and I think that is how the forum should be. That notwithstanding, if the account is true, then I apologize to Mr. Huge. Peace.

Falcon : all my friends are romanian and they’re all uncut. (only one of them is arab)

Luvdadus: I apologise for my reply there, it won’t happen again

Beowolf : I apologise to you also, but I fabricated NOTHING.

Happy gaining to all ! :)

Started: 6 dec 2003 15 may 2004 : 7.6 x 5.9 inches Want : 8 (nbp) x 6 (head) My photo

The solution

I have the answer to all this discussion on the story being true or not. mr huge_, your friends seem to be very open minded to let you measure them. Why don’t you ask them if you can take some photos of their erect penises while measuring? That would settle this, once and for all.


I’ll ask them when I’ll go back to Romania

Started: 6 dec 2003 15 may 2004 : 7.6 x 5.9 inches Want : 8 (nbp) x 6 (head) My photo

Ok guys,
This has gone on long enough. :head:

:horse: :horse: :horse:

The ravings of a madman...

mr huge_ I have a question for you; is it possible that you made a mistake during the conversion? I mean, since you and your friends are Romanians, you have most likely used a ruler marked in centimeters, right? Then you divided the measurement by 2.54 in order to get the result in inches, correct?

That’s correct Xxm. We measure in cm (also nbp ) but I convert the mesurements in inches for the forum because everybody here measures in inches. I know 1 inch = 2.54 cm
Most of them were like 17.5-20 cm nbp (or just a little but no more than 0,5 cm)

I’m currently at 16,8 cm (bp) -6.6 inches and 13.7 cm girth - 5.4 inches

Started: 6 dec 2003 15 may 2004 : 7.6 x 5.9 inches Want : 8 (nbp) x 6 (head) My photo

Re: Do surveys lie ?

Originally posted by mr huge_
I've been with (even if they don't care about size) were like : “My last one was huge , about 8 inches long ”

I am so sick of women thinking they’re miracles in measurement! It’s even more annoying than hearing one argue her boyfriend’s honda civic is the fastest thing on wheels.

For example:

“Oh yeah my last guy was like 7.5”

Oh reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaally? So you can tell by simply looking and feeling a penis you've only been recetnly exposed to, it's EXACT size… even to a tenth of an inch?

or this one:

“He’s 9, I did this sneaky thing where I take one finger and place it and then compare it to my hand with…” (it was this whole little technique she said she did)

Oh really now?… so I'm guessing your finger technique is more accurate than a modern ruler. Next time I need my kitchen floor replaced, I'll call you instead of the floor man

PEing since Jan 1st, 2003


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