"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."
-Bertrand Russell
lurky
Disgusting GAINS!!!
hobby
>I stopped PE for over a year. Just regular manual stretching for about 2 mins each morning in the shower.
Interesting. I’ve always been interested whether long breaks can prime a guy for new gains. There are several threads on the topic. I know everyone is excited about the most recent heat rediscovery :) , but I suspect the break is what did you the most good.
What was your routine before you quit, and average gains per month?
Did you make good progress when you first began PE? What was your routine then?
Uncut4Big
Kojak,
I don’t have any experience with heating pads. But it looks like I wasn’t the only one who thought about that idea. I use an infrared lamp since the heat goes deeper into the tissue. I pinched a nerve in the back of my neck once when I was still playing soccer in a team. The doc applied heat from that lamp over several sessions to loosen up the surrounding muscles. It worked.
Hobby,
My old routine back then is posted here somewhere. I don’t really know if that long break has anything to do with it or if the new gains come from a different routine. My stats back then were not nearly as good, even though I’m involved in PE, on and off, for about maybe 5 years or so.
I experimented with pumping after a regular jelqing session, but didn’t get the gains I was hoping for. The progress I made about 3 years ago, I think, were modest. Bro, it’s been a long time.
The only thing I’m hoping for is that this "Heat" project works out well. But I guess we’ll see about that. So far it’s been a motivator :) . Hopefully others here will profit from that idea as well.
Hobby, here’s a link to one of my earlier posts back in 2001. It was one of the Experiment ones. Guess I used the same idea then as I do today, but never really stuck to it. But read for yourself:
Make it huge....!
Uncut4Big / Mike
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Kojack10
I had not realized that the light from the infrared lamp actually penetrated the skin and heated tissues beneath the skin. That is great! I imagine that one could heat the whole area more evenly than by applying heat from a warm object.
Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.
Keeko
I need to try this heat thing out too. Time to shop for a heat lamp. Also interested in checking out rice socks. Anyone explain what these are? Where to get them?
Thanks,
Keeko
j384
Uncut4Big: Being the pessimistic skeptic piece of shit that I am, I have doubts about your claims. Don’t get me wrong here man. I am not questioning whether or not you gained over half an inch in under 30 days, I am challenging the fact that you believe the heat is what is really responsible for these incredible results.
I mean, how can you really be so sure that it was the application of heat that yielded you these awesome gains? How do you know these gains you got in just a month didn’t just come from your new routine (a total of 45 minutes of stretching) or the long break you took from PEing?
I don’t think anyone is going to be able to prove you right or wrong. You know that “different strokes for different folks” bullshit..yeah. It could very well be that doing the exercises while having the groin emersed in heat skyrockets gains. But I believe what could also be the case is that this new efficiency you employ with your new routine has been bestowing you amazing results. How can this be proven untrue?
I’d love to presume that doing all of my exercises from this point on in a hot steamy shower or inside of a warm tub would eject massive gains. I am just a little hesistant to blindly accept that, and think it’s really due to everything else you’ve done. By the way..where can I buy an infrared lamp? :o
Maxwell
I used heating pads all the time. I need to get me another one. This will be my third one. The other two died on me. I use the heating pad on my chair. This way I can do the Lazy ass stretch or what others call the Fowfers. When I first starting PE I warmed up by running my dick under hot water. That got old fast. I like the heating pads alot. They also help pack a tub faster for those that pump. Cheap under $10.00 bucks at Wal Mart.
What are you gonna do? Sic your dogs on me? Or your bees? Or dogs with bees in their mouth so when they bark they shoot bees at me? I think Mr. Smithers picked me for my motivational skills. Everyone always says they have to work twice as hard when Im around! Its not easy to juggle a pregnant wife and a troubled child, but somehow I managed to squeeze in 8 hours of TV a day. Getting out of jury duty is easy. The trick is to say youre prejudiced against all races. - Homer Simpson.
Kojack10
In my excitement about this “rediscovery of heat application” I don’t want to imply that I’m betting this was the sole reason Uncut4Big gained, but that it aided his gains. His new ruotine or break may have been resposible for most of the gains, but even if the heat lamp helped him to gain 10-20% more on gains, I’m sold on its benefits. Compound just a 10% increase on your monthly gains for a year and see how far ahead you will be. It would definitely be worth taking note of.
Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.
Uncut4Big
J384,
I understand that there are members here that have doubts about this "Project". The only thing I can tell you, is that I have never had any gains wether flaccid or erect like these before. I don’t know if they are going to be permanent or not. But for a little over a month I’ve been using the heat and so far I have seen changes that I haven’t seen at all doing PE and I’m at it for almost 5 years. Here’s a response from Sunshine to one of the other posts regarding heat:
Uncut, does heat have the same effect on the tunica
She’s a physical therapist assistant and knows her stuff very well. And from my own experience in the past, with heat and ligs, I’m inclined to say that the application of heat during an entire workout has something to do with it. BTW, infrared lamps are available at Walgreens, Longs Drugs or even Home Depot.
Make it huge....!
Uncut4Big / Mike
Uncut4Big
Here’s a link to info about infrared heat and its effects. Worth reading!
http://www.ycyh ealth.com/produ … d_benefit.shtml
Excerpt:
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Other Therapeutic Effects of Infrared Therapy
The following information has been summarized from Chapter 9 of Therapeutic Heat and Cold, Fourth Edition, Editors Justus F. Lehmann, MD, Williams, and Wilkin, or concluded from data gathered there.Generally it is accepted that heat produces the following desirable therapeutic effects:
1. Infrared heat increases the extensibility of collagen tissues. Tissues heated to 45 degrees Celsius and then stretched exhibit a nonelastic residual elongation of about 0.5 to 0.9 percent that persists after the stretch is removed. This does not occur in these same tissues when stretched at normal tissue temperature.
Stretching of tissue in the presence of heat would be especially valuable in working with ligaments, joint capsules, tendons, fasciae, and synoviurn that have become scarred, thickened, or contracted. Experiments cited clearly showed low-force stretching could produce significant residual elongation when heat is applied together with stretching or range of motion exercises.
2. Infrared heat decreases joint stiffness. There was a 20% decrease in rheumatoid finger joint stiffness at 45 degrees Celsius (112°F) as compared with 33 degrees Celsius (92°F) which correlated perfectly to both subjective and objective observation of stiffness. Speculation has it that any stiffened joint and thickened connective tissues may respond in a similar fashion.
3. Infrared heat relieves muscle spasms. Muscle spasms have long been observed to be reduced through the use of heat, be they secondary to underlying skeletal, joint, or neuropathological conditions. This result is possibly produced by the combined effect of heat on both primary and secondary afferent nerves from spindle cells and from its effect on Golgi tendon organs.
4. Infrared heat treatment leads to pain relief. Pain may be relieved via the reduction of attendant or secondary spasms. Pain is also at times related to ischemia due to tension or spasm that can be improved by hyperthermia that heat-induced vasodialation produces, thus breaking the feedback loop in which ischemia leads to further spasm and then more pain. Heat has been shown to reduce pain sensation by direct action on both free-nerve endings in tissues and on peripheral nerves. In one dental study, repeated heat applications led finally to abolishment of the whole nerve response responsible for pain arising from dental pulp. Heat may lead to increased endorphin production and a shutting down of the so-called "spinal gate" of Melzack and Wall, each of which can reduce pain.
Localized infrared therapy using lamps tuned to the 2 to 25 micron wave band is used for the treatment and relief of pain by over 40 reputable Chinese medical institutes.
5. Infrared heat increases blood flow. Heating one area of the body produces reflex-modulated vasodilators in distant-body areas, even in the absence of a change in core temperature. Heat one extremity and the contralateral extremity also dilates; heat a forearm and both lower extremities dilate.
Heating muscles produces an increased blood flow level similar to that seen during exercise. Temperature elevation also produces increased blood flow and dilation directly in capillaries, arterioles, and venules, probably through direct action on their smooth muscles. The release of bradykinin, released as a conseqence of sweat gland activity, also produces increased blood flow and vasodilation.
Make it huge....!
Uncut4Big / Mike
chas123
I just went to Lowes and bought the same “get-up” that Lurky’s e-bay search yielded for $20. Bought the bulb and shield seperately.
Kojack10
Uncut4Big, thanks for posting that excerpt. I really like how it is stated in that excerpt that tissues heated to 45 degrees Celsius and then stretched exhibit a nonelastic residual elongation of about 0.5 to 0.9% that persist after the stretch is removed. That possibility really excites me.
I’m so glad that those lamps appear to be sold at affordable prices.
Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.
tps
Good info on infrared. Any thoughts on regular lighting? I have a light fixture with a regular light bulb that gets pretty hot. Too hot so I have to move it away from me so I can stand it. Think this is working as well as infrared? Or does infrared penetrate to the ligs better? Last night was the first time I used my regular lighting after reading this and other threads and I could feel as my 20 minute set went on my bib hanger and dick getting lower and lower. First time I really ever felt that. Of course, I just went up a pound in weight too. But, that added pound of weight was even more comfortable than the lower weight and I’m sure it’s because of the heat.
chas123
Uncut is the man. I did my p.m. stretches 20 minutes ago using the lamp I picked up at Lowes and my dick is still extremely warm. I think I am going to jelq with it too.
tps,
I think that infrared is definately the way to go. Maybe, if the fixture you have will handle 250 watts, you can just pick up a infrared bulb. It penetrates deep. You can feel it.
It might also be cool to sneak into the bathroom before sex and heat your dick for about 10 minutes. I bet that would drive a woman crazy.
Kojack10
Ahh, the before sex idea is very creative.
Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.
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