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Originally Posted by Krtel
Am I doing it wrong? (Like, not stretching hard enough)

I wonder this too.

Sometimes I experience pain when pulling, but not from the ligs or tunica. It’s the skin. I can’t really find a comfortable way to pull. I do manage to get a good tug after trying different holds.

I have seen films of individuals who use their members to lift very heavy weights and it doesn’t just rip the penis from their body (like you would think). These individuals have essentially destroyed the nerves in their penis such that they are impotent. Not exactly my goal.

So there is continuum of pulling — stretching — tissue destruction

So, optimal intensity and time are needed. I just don’t know what those are.

Originally Posted by Krtel
Am I doing it wrong? (like, not stretching hard enough)

The way that I stretch is putting some blood in my glans and pulling just behidn the glans. This way you have some good grip and it really works. I gained 3.5 cm doing this for only 9 months.

Originally Posted by Bird2
The way that I stretch is putting some blood in my glans and pulling just behidn the glans. This way you have some good grip and it really works. I gained 3.5 cm doing this for only 9 months.

But are you pulling on the glans directly. This seems dangerous to pull on the glans. The glans is essentially a separate piece, held to the rest of the cavernosa by fascia (which is a pretty tough webbing). If one were to pull the glans too far from the cavernosa, you could definitely damage the nerve as it enters the glans.

Check out Tom Hubbard’s suggestion for hanging:

Swim Cap Penis Hanger - Step by Step - Classic Site - Tom Hubbard

He apparently did this with great success and no damage. It seems dangerous to me.

Krtel,don’t get discouraged man.I did PE for a solid year before I saw any difference.My routine was somewhat sporadic,much like yours.I stuck mainly to the newbie routine.I couldn’t find a comfortable grip while stretching,so I pretty much just wet jelqed.I was just about to call it quits,when lying in bed one night I got a hard on.It looked bigger.I couldn’t be sure but it really looked bigger.So I got out the tape and measured.And guess what? It was bigger!After that night,I got more religious about my routine.I began doing light stretch regimen,always with rice sock warm up first.Heat makes an incredible difference to me.I continued jelqing and stretching until July of this year,when I began hanging.I now have a solid .25 gain in NBPEL and nearly .75 in BPEL.Not to mention my BPFSL is well over an inch longer.I am also enjoying a solid 1/8 inch girth increase.It takes time my friend.Commit to a routine and stick with it and eventually you will get where you want to be .

Thanks for your posts.

There’s something important that I forgot to say. When I started PEing consistently, it was not my intention to follow a program for 2-3 months only. I initially thought about doing it for at least 6 months. Then, I decided I should do it for 6-12 months. Then, only then, I’ll quit if I don’t achieve any results.

But damn, I was expecting a constant rate of growth. I mean, suppose someone gains 1 inch in 1 year. Was that 1 inch gain divided by the 12 months (2 mm per month, for example) or did it come mainly in a specific time? (for example, during months 4-7)

Originally Posted by chainz 8
Heat makes an incredible difference to me.

Ditto.

Originally Posted by Krtel
But damn, I was expecting a constant rate of growth. I mean, suppose someone gains 1 inch in 1 year. Was that 1 inch gain divided by the 12 months (2 mm per month, for example) or did it come mainly in a specific time? (for example, during months 4-7)

Depends on the person. PE seems to be quite different for many individuals.

Some see immediate great gains, some it takes a great amount of time. Some see incremental changes over a long period, some see big gains in a short time and then plateau for a time.

That’s what I have seen in the progress reports of most members here, is a wide variation of experience.

250 jelqs seems quite LOW to me. Get it to three hundred NOW, and increase it 100 each week until you are at 500.

The lower jelq reps are to help newbies condition their penis. Yours, while not showing signs of growth, is certainly well conditioned for the additional workout.

Technique is another issue. Teaching PE through text is like teaching Karate from a book. You’ll miss the important points.


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The FROG JELQ. Ok? That’s what I call it, ‘cause that’s what I look like when I do it. I believe that using this technique will help you do regular jelqs with the proper tension and vigor. It basically TEACHES you the proper form, and it’s a wet jelq technique.

First, do your warm-ups and stretches. Lube up and do 100 of your regular jelqs. Then do the FROG:

Squat down. The toes and balls of your feet will be supporting all your weight, your knees will be pointed outward. Try to keep your back straight, and your gut flattened (Takes practice!) Firmly grab your unit with your right hand using the reverse OK grip! (Your pinky will be close to you glans, your thumb and forefinger close to your groin.) Stroke straight down, as if you’re trying to stretch your dick straight DOWN to the floor! As you stroke down, you’ll be pushing a blood balloon with your index finger and thumb. Think to yourself how you’re using this blood balloon to help you STRETCH your unit to the floor and really put tension on it even as your fingers are sliding down the shaft.

Do the same with your left hand, and alternate back and forth for 100 strokes. Keep the back straight and flatten the stomach! Puff up your chest muscles and make believe you are moving a massive weight! Move your shoulders in exaggerated motions to accomplish the task.

By your 100th stroke you will probably notice a gentle throb 3 to 4 inches above the base of your unit. It’s a sign of your tendons being worked out! If not, you should feel it the next day if you do the FROG again. Remember to exaggerate your motions and keep good posture!

I’m sure that the next time you do a regular jelq, you’ll find yourself doing it quite a bit differently, and more effectively! Go for the same FEEL during a regular jelq as you did doing the FROG.
I’m not suggesting the FROG as a replacement for regular jelqs, although I’m sure they are just as effective, but try adding a rep to your routine for a few days to see if this helps improve your technique.

All the best, and BE CONSISTENT!


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Originally Posted by Krtel
I know posts like this are discouraging and I regret posting this. It’s just that perhaps there is something different that I could do in order to start getting results. Considering I’m not a pro, I was hoping someone with more experience could give me some advices.

We know PE does work. That’s a fact. Unfortunately, some people get better results than others. I’m an amateur bodybuilder (I mean, no competion) and I think I’m allowed to say that I got very good results from it.. And at a fast pace. That’s one more reason why I’m a bit disappointed with the lack of results in my PE “career”. By the way, I am not trying to compare bodybuilding and PE (the penis does not grow the same way as our pecs or biceps do, considering those are different kinds of structures).

I think there’s a main reason there my man. I think you hit the core right there. And I know exactly where your coming from.
It’s would be hard to understand why you can make gains in the gym, which by the way seems like a hell of allot harder than PE, and not make gains in PE yet. I go to the gym (well I used to go allot) and you really get into the whole work-out thing, and naturally you learn how all the stuff works.
Because we have gone to the gym built ourselves up by knowing all this stuff about nutrition, muscle functions and so on it boggles the mind and almost insults when your trying to make gains that just don’t seem to be coming - on one of the smaller muscle groups. It should be easier.
The way I think of it: From when you start, in some way you are making gains. However, down the track, all these workouts overtime and accumulative small gains will really be noticeable.

You might need to try more “advanced” techniques. Stretching does not work for everyone. It did nothing for me. Jelqing is more a way to condition your unit for other exercises, in my opinion. Some people gain significant girth, and even length, just from jelqing. But this is rare. For length, hanging is the best. But some guys see length gains from pumping. For girth, clamping and/or pumping is the way to go. I recommend experimenting with both. In addition to hanging, you can wear a good ADS (like the AutoEXT). If you’ve been stretching and jelqing for several months and you’re not seeing anything, then it’s time to move to the next level. Safety is key. But you also need to push yourself. Very few guys seen any real gains from light routines.

Krtel,

A very important ingredient of a successful PE program is to gradually increase the intensity, repetitions, time of your routine. If you’re moreorless repeating the exact same routine on a daily basis with occasional breaks, your penis is just getting accustomed to all of it. It’s probably taking on a kind of static position. It needs to be put into stress mode so that the body can react to repair the stressed penile tissues in their enlarged state and eventually adopt that larger size as its new baseline.


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Originally Posted by peforeal
A very important ingredient of a successful PE program is to gradually increase the intensity, repetitions, time of your routine.

That’s necessary because the tunica is getting stronger and thicker. Maybe we can make the tunica thinner so the exercises have more impact.


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Originally Posted by novi
I wonder this too.

Sometimes I experience pain when pulling, but not from the ligs or tunica. It’s the skin. I can’t really find a comfortable way to pull. I do manage to get a good tug after trying different holds.

I have seen films of individuals who use their members to lift very heavy weights and it doesn’t just rip the penis from their body (like you would think). These individuals have essentially destroyed the nerves in their penis such that they are impotent. Not exactly my goal.

This is the very reason why I don’t want to hang. Especially since I heard genitals can literally be pulled out by applying ONLY 20 lbs of force. I even got nervous stretching at first because of that sole fact. My #1 philosophy of PE is, if trying to get a big dick puts mine at risk of making me impotent, it isn’t worth it. Better to have a dick that works than a big one that doesn’t. (It’s also why I’m avoiding unnecessary surgery)

Originally Posted by novi
But are you pulling on the glans directly. This seems dangerous to pull on the glans. The glans is essentially a separate piece, held to the rest of the cavernosa by fascia (which is a pretty tough webbing). If one were to pull the glans too far from the cavernosa, you could definitely damage the nerve as it enters the glans.

Check out Tom Hubbard’s suggestion for hanging:

Swim Cap Penis Hanger - Step by Step - Classic Site - Tom Hubbard

He apparently did this with great success and no damage. It seems dangerous to me.

Yikes.

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