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Clamping: Advanced Empirical Discussion

Originally Posted by The Man
For someone who hasn’t clamped or PE’ed very long this would not be a good place to start but I’m confident that I can tackle a routine like this without a great risk of injury. I don’t need to use cialis or anything else, but I do have some which might be helpful for the weekend sessions when my volume of clamping is likely higher. EVO (which is aroset’s mixture, correct?) appears safe and effective for healing so that should help with everything. In the 2nd and 3rd weeks where my volume is higher, the risk for injury would be greater but having lighter days to recover and a week of light clamping at the end of it all will hopefully be sufficient. I think that a lot of people clamp similarly to this even if it’s not intended. The cialis and EVO are just ideas to add a little extra but by no means necessary.

We always have room for a voice of reason, the last thing anyone wants is an injury while PE’ing.

I’m not convinced that “PE experience” is going to be enough to protect you from conditions that are not even fully understood by the medical research community.

Reperfusion injury is only one of the possible consequences - and there are many others.

Please do your homework thoroughly and be very, very careful - some of these consequences are a one-way street.

lil1 :lep:


BPEL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | *20cm* (8")

MTSL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | *25cm* (10") MTSL = Maximum Traction Stretched Length

"Pertinaciously pursuing a penis of preposterously prodigious proportions." What a mouthful!

Oh yes, always be careful; and don’t try this if you aren’t very experienced PEer.

But is my understanding that works planned here is based on sets shorter than 20 minutes, so a reperfusion injury isn’t higher with this kind of approach than with ‘regular’ clamping.

Originally Posted by ShyMplsMale
I’m very surprised no one has mentioned to you to take a break.

If someone is weightlifting and they don’t see gains for 7 months, it’s time to take a break. No question about it. I don’t think your penis could be anymore conditioned. You could definitely try shock workouts, but I believe that will just condition your penis more. Maybe you might gain, but a deconditioned penis is easier to grow more than a conditioned one.

Just trying to help out a fellow TP member :)

It’s certainly something I’ve thought of many times. My clamping gains have come within the past 3 months though, so I think my main problem was not enough time/frequency to see results. Also, I have a hard time taking a day off at all so a decon break will be tough! I’d like to try this routine for 4 weeks and if I don’t see any gains then maybe a decon will help.

Advice is always appreciated ;)


Then: 5.63"x4.25" ---> Now: 6.50"x4.44"

Originally Posted by lil12big1
I’m not convinced that “PE experience” is going to be enough to protect you from conditions that are not even fully understood by the medical research community.

Reperfusion injury is only one of the possible consequences - and there are many others.

Please do your homework thoroughly and be very, very careful - some of these consequences are a one-way street.

lil1 :lep:

Thank you for brining this up lil.

I am familiar with reperfusion injuries due to clamping but I don’t think I will be at risk of this because I do not clamp tight enough or long enough to induce an actual ischemia. I don’t clamp tight enough to restrict outflow completely, just tight enough to restrict it some, and provide additional engorgement. This is also why I never kegel right after unclamping. I don’t want anymore blood coming in then is normal, as any extra may increase the chances of a reperfusion injury.

Interestingly enough, I saw in that wiki article that a compound called Glisodin can help prevent this kind of injury from happening. I just googled it and found that it can be purchased. Maybe I’ll look into adding this just for additional safety while clamping.


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Originally Posted by marinera
Oh yes, always be careful; and don’t try this if you aren’t very experienced PEer.

But is my understanding that works planned here is based on sets shorter than 20 minutes, so a reperfusion injury isn’t higher with this kind of approach than with ‘regular’ clamping.


Just tell me when to look the other way - I don’t want to witness any avoidable train wrecks …. :eek:

lil1 :lep:


BPEL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | *20cm* (8")

MTSL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | *25cm* (10") MTSL = Maximum Traction Stretched Length

"Pertinaciously pursuing a penis of preposterously prodigious proportions." What a mouthful!

Ok. Look the other way, Lil. :D

:chuckle:

Seriously, please be very careful. :)

lil1 :lep:


BPEL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | *20cm* (8")

MTSL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | *25cm* (10") MTSL = Maximum Traction Stretched Length

"Pertinaciously pursuing a penis of preposterously prodigious proportions." What a mouthful!

Out of curiosity, Lil, have you ever clamped?

Yes, but not regularly for several reasons.

1. I’m going for length first but I seem to gain girth whether I want it or not. I may not need it.
2. Discolouration - some people like it, I’m not so fond of it.
3. It’s a very powerful exercise that has to be performed carefully - risks can be higher. (Yes, I know that all forms of PE carry risks, but IMO, clamping can be proportionally riskier if commensurate care is not taken - it is a more advanced exercise, absolutely not for newbies).
4. More girth will make my penis look shorter.
5. Try sticking something with more than 6” girth in your mouth - I’d prefer not to limit my oral sex options too much!

lil1 :lep:


BPEL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | *20cm* (8")

MTSL (5") | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | *25cm* (10") MTSL = Maximum Traction Stretched Length

"Pertinaciously pursuing a penis of preposterously prodigious proportions." What a mouthful!

Originally Posted by The Man
It’s certainly something I’ve thought of many times. My clamping gains have come within the past 3 months though, so I think my main problem was not enough time/frequency to see results. Also, I have a hard time taking a day off at all so a decon break will be tough! I’d like to try this routine for 4 weeks and if I don’t see any gains then maybe a decon will help.

Advice is always appreciated ;)

So you didn’t see any gains at all in the first 4 months? Nothing in length or girth?

Originally Posted by ShyMplsMale
So you didn’t see any gains at all in the first 4 months? Nothing in length or girth?

I saw a slight gain in base girth but nothing else in terms of length or girth, nothing mid-shaft at all in the first 3-4 months of clamping. I’m not really sure how I even stayed persistent but I have now seem some small gains so I’m ready to try a new routine like this.


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After reading through this thread again it looks like LV has been using a schedule similar to what marinera and I had talked about, slowly increasing volume throughout the week, then backing off the give time to recover. I think doing this while increasing volume over a period of 2-3 weeks then allowing a week to recover with much less sets would be a very good routine and way to test the principles in this thread. I have a routine put together that I would like to use to test it out but I think it would be better if I post that in the other thread, I don’t want to get this thread sidetracked. I would like to see more discussion and more people offer their insight on clamping and what has been discussed so far.


Then: 5.63"x4.25" ---> Now: 6.50"x4.44"

I am heavily busy with my thesis guys. I hope marinera can guide The Man…I’ll try to check in when I can. Sorry for the absence.

Originally Posted by Pillars
I honestly believe you will see more gains as you increase the amount of sets per day and maybe, TUC. So it would indeed be nice to see this “experiment” from you.

I want to make this clear, since I haven’t inserted my personal experiences that much into this thread:

I believe that TUC should always be increased before frequency is, constrained to a max TUC of 18 minutes for safety issues. Marginal gain from increased TUC has been far greater than increasing sets per day, in my personal experience.

I also believe that the clamp should be tightened as much as possible without pain.

This is contrary to Drilla and Big Girtha’s views. Drilla used much lower constriction levels, and Big Girtha emphasized frequency over TUC. However, he did so because of health issues I believe. I have tried all the methods and this is my current opinion.

Originally Posted by The Man
Yes, when I’m clamping I do watch porn and use a couple of techniques to stay erect. I’ve done 6 sets today and have been able do stay hard through all of the sets. 6 is the most I’ve ever done in a day and so far so good but 10 would be tough on back to back days, maybe 8 would be good for a limit at first. I actually just received some Cialis as well and tried it for the first time last night. I dont have any EQ issues but wanted to try it out just to see what effect it would have and I love it. I stay hard much longer which will also help with this.

Note:

1. Beware with erections enhancers. One of the ways to gauge how much fatigue you are carrying is through your ability to get an erection. Since you are now intending to try much higher fatigue than you have ever experienced, the enhancer could make it harder to gauge how much you are truly handling. I might say to lay off the enhancer until you are dealing with fatigue that you are aware of through experience, or not to do 10 sets on some days from the start.

2. There is no need to stay erect while clamped. This is Big Girtha’s observation and I agree with it. This has sort of been debunked. I’m not sure if gains are greater if we stay erect, but its not necessary. Due to my levels of expansion (skin is too tight) and constriction, it would be painful to attempt to sustain an erection through physical stimulation anyhow.

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