Changes in opinion post-PE

Howdy guys.

I was just discussing with Miggelodeon my experiences with PE and my general attitude to dick size. It’s fair to say that my attitude has changed completely, from insecurity to indifference.

Anyone else had the epiphany once they reached a certain size where they could say to themselves “I am happy with x inches” and actually mean it? I never really had a goal in mind, except that to begin with I only wanted a little length so I could pass the average mark - which I have done. I would be interested to hear other guys’ experiences with this.

I’m wondering if there is a size that subconsciously we are happy with, and when we get to this size we become content and have more of an “anything more is a bonus” attitude. Because it seems there are two camps, those with the aforementioned atitude and those with an “I need to gain to feel happy” attitude. Any thoughts on this? What size did YOU get to before you felt the highly sought after feeling of contentment? How much had you gained to get to that size?

Also, how would you describe your experiences before this contentment in comparison to afterwards? How did you view PE? Did you find yourself more or less motivated? did you find gains came easier or harder?

And finally, with regards to sex life, what differenced were there between before and after you became content/happy with your size? For guys who have been with their partner throughout their PE ‘career’, I would be especially interested to know how your parter felt about sex after this contentment.

I appreciate any replies this post might get.

Good Luck
SS4

SS

I’m in a happy place now anything I gain now is pretty much gravy. I think my PE mental illness is the only thing driving me now. I started being happy at 8x6 because that was my main goal the 9x7 goal I have now is because I want some extra in case I lose some size. I’m pretty sure my days of heavy PE’ing are close to over.

SS

I have not reached my goal. I want to be a little past average like you. Since you have reached your goal would you answers some of the questions in your post?

Ben

Now that I know, 7 inches is over the average, I am a lot more calm. Just taking easy my goal.

Once I reached about 7” BPEL by 5.8” EG (my current size), I became much less self-conscious about being “small.” I started to almost enjoy being naked in front of other people. I didn’t mind having people look at my crotch (clothed or otherwise) because there was actually something to see. I’d still like another inch or so to feel really confident. When I reach that point, anything more will be gravy.

With much more than 8” BPEL, I’d be concerned about showing too much. There are many circumstances in which you don’t want your cock hanging down for all to see. I wouldn’t want so much that I couldn’t keep it well hidden if necessary.

I’m more confident now around women, but far from complete confidence. I’ve been with my partner from pre pe until now and I can tell a difference in two ways with her.

First, she makes some constant faces and does some occasional “Oh”s during sex, where she use to not do either. She will even call out “Do it!” when she wants me to go hard, and repeat it as I do. This “do it” didn’t begin until my last 1/4” gain in length this year (I’ve gained about 1” in length and more than 1/4” inch in girth). However, I can tell she will be happier once I gain more length and especially girth.

Second, she has really begun this past year to open up with comments about dick sizes, like when watching Real Sex together on HBO or at times when watching a movie that has a sex scene in it. She’s more willing to say what she is thinking, and size definitely matters to her.

As far as what size I’ll be happy with, I don’t know if you can go by what I say because I’m more obsessed about it than most men I think. I have my wife’s go ahead to go for what I want so I don’t have to worry about that.

Dino,

>I think my PE mental illness is the only thing driving me now. I started being happy at 8x6 because that was my main goal the 9x7 goal I have now is because I want some extra in case I lose some size<

Yes you’re taking a good precaution there since losing gains over time is what we have the least data on. If you lose some you’re still good, if not you’re big, so good idea there.

Rob,

> I have not reached my goal. I want to be a little past average like you. Since you have reached your goal would you answers some of the questions in your post?<

Sure. I am currently 7.75x5, and at this size I can make my chicks come multiple times (6+ on one occasion, and that was a chick with a kid). But the sexual side effects are really not what made me content, I think it was more to do with building confidence outside of PE endeavours, after a lot of effort in other areas it made me realise how insignificant dick size is. But I also know that if I hadn’t made the gains I had, I would not feel this way. Which is why I think there is some size that we all have in mind that we are content with. Maybe someone who started small got this when they gained into the average size, someone like me who started average might get it as they cross the boundary into above average.

I still want to PE but it’s less of a priority now. I want to get back to 8” since I lost 1/4” during my PE downtime, then maybe a little more before I work on girth. I feel more ‘free’ with my PE efforts, like there is no pressure on me to gain now. I’m interested to hear about whether people who passed this stage went on to continue gaining despite maybe losing interest a little.

There is some theory which I can’t remember the name of about people sticking to things they have expended a certain amount of effort into, like people who’s businesses are failing hang in there because they put so much effort into it that they find it hard to quit. That’s where my motivation is at the moment, having spent years upon years to get where I am not I’m not going to stop, I want a better return on my investment (time and effort). But it’s just not a high priority now.

LUI,

>Now that I know, 7 inches is over the average, I am a lot more calm. Just taking easy my goal.<

Good. How do you view PE now as opposed to before you knew this? Are you still doing all your workouts or do you miss a few because of this?

Although psychologically the contentment is a good thing (very good for people who started from a place of insecurity), I wonder if it is a hindrance to future gains and what we can do to improve motivation in these cases. Or even if we need to. Is the psychological contentment what we want from PE or is a certain physical size what we want? Hmm. If the latter is the case, the contentment could be considered a hindrance from reaching our goals…

Modesto,

> With much more than 8” BPEL, I’d be concerned about showing too much. There are many circumstances in which you don’t want your cock hanging down for all to see. I wouldn’t want so much that I couldn’t keep it well hidden if necessary.<

I think you are in a good position here, because you have an upper limit to your progress, meaning that there is a zone in which you want your size to remain in. This is a very cool and rare attitude on this forum, it would remove a lot of uncertainty.

been,

> Second, she has really begun this past year to open up with comments about dick sizes, like when watching Real Sex together on HBO or at times when watching a movie that has a sex scene in it. She’s more willing to say what she is thinking, and size definitely matters to her.<

You have a good chick there. I would wager that it isn’t your improving your size that is making her open up more, but your attitude towards the issue as you gain in confidence along with your gains. She’s aware that she won’t upset you with comments because you are more confident now. Do you think this is true or do you think it’s simply the physical aspect of your PE that made her open up more.

Interesting replies so far, I hope more guys will chime in with there opinions and experiences.

Good Luck
SS4

I think most everyone can agree that the average range is 5”-7” NBP.
So, I will be content when I surpass 7” NBP. Past that, I shall adopt the, as you (SS4) put it, “anything more is a bonus” attitude.

As far as girth is concerned, anything more than 5.5” mid-shaft is above average, therefore I will be happy with that.

Any gain whatsoever is a bonus. When I started this endeavor, I thought adding an inch would be awesome.

She is. She’s a good person, but can be too blunt at times just like I can be. I think you’re correct about her opening up is mostly because of my increased confidence, but she makes some size remarks that I doubt even she would make if she wasn’t under the impression I can eventually become almost any size I wish to. She said something a while back that sort of caught even me off guard a bit. I had the penissizedebate website up and there was a huge dick on one of the pages. I’m on a laptop and I’m lucky in that I can come to Thunder’s and she doesn’t get nosy about where I’m at on the computer. I do log out when leaving Thunder’s because I worry that, even though she has her own computer (the computer I now use was the one she use to use. Mine crashed earlier this year and she eventually wound up getting another one and I use her old laptop), she might borrow mine and stumble onto everything I’ve written here, which is more than I would want her to know about. Anyway, I had shown her that site before and had asked her to read it and let me know what she thought. She didn’t read but a bit of it and grew bored with reading it. Her attention span is not good when it comes to reading anything. So I took a wild notion and tell her I’m at that site again and turn the laptop so she can see the huge dick picture. She goes “That’s too big, that would kill a woman.” But here comes the part I would rather her not have said, but at least she was being honest and I know she would not have said this if she didn’t feel my confidence and know I’m growing. She said “At least she would die with a smile on her face”. I paused, a bit surprised perhaps at the bluntness of her statement, and then I started to reply, “No, I think she would die with pain on her face”. I understood what she meant though (that in reality that is too big, but exciting to look at and try out) and so I didn’t say anything.

Been, can’t you imagine a guy saying something similar about being smothered by a pair of 48 FF tits?

You know what I mean? At least he'd die being crushed by huge tits! That doesn’t mean we men would just love and crave a woman with enormous tits, it just means it is an exaggerated expression for our affinity to the naughty bits on a woman.

Good example Ramrod. :)

Great thread SS4, and one that has a special significance that I can’t quite put my finger on. Something to do with you being one of the very first guys I interacted with regarding PE. To see you in this comfortable place is somehow encouraging and complete. I’m happy for you.

The easiest way of describing my mindset after meeting my length goal - and living with it for a time - is to simply say that I no longer sweat dick size. Whereas before PE, I was what can only be described as obsessed with the matter; in a very dark way.

That is not to say my ghosts don’t return occasionally to take a bow - but the matter can easily be put into a proper, healthy perspective without much effort.

That was never possible pre-PE.

I am in no way finished with my pursuit of gains, but this is all very refreshing to bring to the fore, and thanks for highlighting it. In this cyber medium the one thing even harder to relate than proof of gains is the psychological liberation they bring.

I never seem to have enough.

been,

>She said “At least she would die with a smile on her face”.<

Yeah Ram is right about this, she was just making a joke.

Cap,

>Something to do with you being one of the very first guys I interacted with regarding PE. To see you in this comfortable place is somehow encouraging and complete. I’m happy for you.<

Thanks!

>The easiest way of describing my mindset after meeting my length goal - and living with it for a time - is to simply say that I no longer sweat dick size. <

This is really good Cap, I’m happy for you also.

>Whereas before PE, I was what can only be described as obsessed with the matter; in a very dark way.<

I know exactly what you mean. Many days now I don’t even think about dick size, that was hard to imagine in the dark days of obsession.

SS4

I’m in kind of a muddle. :confused: In one sense, like Modesto, I can now be naked in front of other people (in changing rooms etc) without feeling I’m too small, but then on the other hand when I’m not in a position to see other guys naked my perception of size warps itself again and I think that I am small. I look down at Mr. Winkle and he looks too small to me.

It could stem from a while back when I remember someone bragging that they were 7+ inches (although I don’t know if that were in a joking way or not) but that could have made me think that a lot of people around me are secretly packing more than 7". Visiting here, I know that can’t be true, but I do think that I might definitely be lacking in the girth dept. Those of you who have read some of my other recent posts will know that the 5" in my sig is only the girth I get when absolutely, 100% aroused and not, for example when I just jack off for the sake of it (do you guys think I should change it to an average value from all my erections, or is the max value I can get better for watching gains?) and normally its around 4.8". I guess I worry about this because I want to use one of those "create your own dildo" kits and give one to my gf, but then I’d be worried about if any of her friends saw it (or even my friends caught sight of it one day - especially if I make a statuette of it as is possible from Proudpeckers ) that they’d comment on me having a pencil dick or something. I know if I had more girth, I’d definitely make it right now, with the length I have.

However, for true fulfillment, I know I won’t be happy until I reach the size of 8x5.5. Although it might take the golden size of 8x6 to make me absolutely happy. Then I reckon I’d definitely be happy with what I had, and anything else would be bonus. (Although I wouldn’t mind the platinum sizeof 9x7! :wink:) But for now, I’m still in those dark days, as you put it, SS. :(

(I would go past 8x5.5/6 just to cement my gains and, as Dino said, in case I lose some)