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Originally Posted by marky777
Hey Kingpole,
Those are huge changes. Is the affect just for a few hours after the coffee, or for the whole day in which 200mg of coffee was drunk?

I had an off an on run with excess caffeine over the last two weeks. I would say it can last a few days. I’m two days off the stuff. I’ll know if things increase during my next ballooning session.


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One big mug of tea a day shoulnd’t be bad right?

I my opinion there are far more important factors to focus on than a cup of tea everyday. I feel it tends to become a bit exaggerated. Some people just take it to the extreme, taking supplements, pills, runs everyday, stops doing/eating/drinking various things they think might affect gains, buys devices, etc.

Originally Posted by outlaw_member
How does it negate it crazyd032?

Coffee is a vasocontrictor as well as a diuretic (meaning it increases your rate of urine production). So not only does caffeine shrink your blood vessels, but it also dehydrates you. Drinking lots of water alleviates one of these symptoms.

DM

What damaker said.

I also agree that one cup of tea a day won’t really hurt you, but caffeine is a stimulant, and while it’s a mild one, if you accumulate it’s effect over a year, it adds up. I don’t drink caffeine, save for an off night when I want to get a little buzz, but being that I drink so little, I really notice the after effects, even with a cup of tea; the morning after, I feel a little groggy, I can’t really pick myself up the same way without caffeine, and my highs are never as high, the lows are always lower - it could all be psychosomatic, but I usually don’t even remember I had caffeine till later, I just think, “what is wrong with me today?”

I don’t think daily use of caffeine is healthy, but to each their own. Definitely quit the soda though, overloads of High Fructose Corn Syrup is terrible for your body.


Going for 6 inches of girth, wish me luck.

I disagree that a cup of tea would add up over time kazooplayer.

As far as PE is concerned, a cup of coffee or tea is not going to do anything good or bad.

Swimming shrinks your penis, does that mean swimming changes your gains?

I don’t mean it adds up in the sense that it builds up in your system, I mean that it takes it’s toll on your system. I don’t think caffeine has any real positives, except a quick burst of unstable energy.


Going for 6 inches of girth, wish me luck.

One cannot equate the stimulant effect of caffeine as it directly applies to gains.

The dehydration would cause a more noticeable effect I would think.

I do think caffeine gets a bad rap in general. Folks say that “it causes dehydration”. While that IS true, caffeine, at most, will only cause a 10-15%
diuresse effect. So, drinking a 12 oz can of Diet Soda will still net you 10 additional ounces of liquids.


06/21/07 NBP = 7.75(tape) FSL = 7.875 EG = 5.00 Volume= 15.42

09/13/07 NBP = 8.375 FSL = 8.75 EG = 5.38 Volume = 19.29 (+25%)

12/26/07 NBP = 8.625 FSL = 8.75 EG = 5.50 Volume = 20.82 (+35%)

Originally Posted by kazooplayer
I don’t mean it adds up in the sense that it builds up in your system, I mean that it takes it’s toll on your system. I don’t think caffeine has any real positives, except a quick burst of unstable energy.

It’s a thermogenic, it can help aid fat loss.

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Originally Posted by WebMD
After analyzing data on 126,000 people for as long as 18 years, Harvard researchers calculate that compared with not partaking in America’s favorite morning drink, downing one to three cups of caffeinated coffee daily can reduce diabetes risk by single digits. But having six cups or more each day slashed men’s risk by 54% and women’s by 30% over java avoiders.

And finally…

Originally Posted by Tomas DePaulis, PhD
“Overall, the research shows that coffee is far more healthful than it is harmful,” says Tomas DePaulis, PhD, research scientist at Vanderbilt University’s Institute for Coffee Studies, which conducts its own medical research and tracks coffee studies from around the world. “For most people, very little bad comes from drinking it, but a lot of good.”

http://men.webmd.com/features/coffee-new-health-food

Drink up! Get those antioxidants! Although, I personally prefer tea…

I don’t think tea is bad it has less caffeine than coffee, tea is also an antioxidant that may trump the caffeine effect. Then there is decaf \green and black tea.

Caffeine raises your blood pressure, not good for people who already have diabetes. I think decaf coffee may have the same anti oxidant effect without blood vessel constriction.


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Originally Posted by kingpole
I don’t think tea is bad it has less caffeine than coffee, tea is also an antioxidant that may trump the caffeine effect. Then there is decaf \green and black tea.

Caffeine raises your blood pressure, not good for people who already have diabetes. I think decaf coffee may have the same anti oxidant effect without blood vessel constriction.

After reading the article further decaf has some of the insulin resitant properties that regular coffee does without the jitters and without the rise in blood pressure.


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Exactly - coffee does not equal caffeine.


Going for 6 inches of girth, wish me luck.

Originally Posted by kazooplayer
Exactly - coffee does not equal caffeine.

That is why I drink decaf “French Roast” set at Turkish grind hobo style. Makes for really good Joe!


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

Okay, neither of you are reading the full article. It specifically states benefits of caffeine.

What did you think the point of the study was? To show how drinking coffee isn’t so bad.
Why was this kind of study necessary? Because caffeine is in coffee!

You could easily argue that the way coffee is most often decaffeinated is a harmful process. I think decaffeinated coffee made in this fashion, most of it is, is much worse than coffee on its own.

This thread spoke about having a caffeinated beverage. It is alright to do that, and will have zero effects on your gains. The only debate should be about just HOW good it is for you.

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