Burden of proof

Does anyone else feel that members who boast extremely large sizes should post pictures. It just seems like the “big boys” who show up as new members, detaling their PE experience and progress, almost never post pictures. I realize that nobody is obligated to do this, but I just feel like scenarios such as this, happening over and over again, give the legitimacy of PE a bad name. It also looks very fishy to those of us who have seen imposters exposed time and time again in the same fashion. It is so predictable.

I have never posted pictures, but If I claimed something far from the ordinary, in terms of size or gains, I would certainly understand the scepticism. I realize many of you will not agree with me, but this is just how I feel.

I agree completely, but as you very well know, everything you read or see in internet should be taken with a pinch salt.

Should post pics ? No. But does it help to reinforce whats said, sure. People doubt pictures too, so it hardly solves the problem really, especially with dodgy webcams.

Had those of us who were around in the beginning harassed Bib for not posting pics, we probably would not have Lot theory, Bib hangers, the Uli thing……

I don’t think those who make big claims should be required to provide proof. This is not and never should be like some sort of highly regulated sport.

I don’t believe or disbelieve anyone. I simply consider whether what people say is consistent with what I have experienced. If it is not, I leave them alone. If it is, I pay attention to what they write, for it will likely assist me in my latter steps. I think this is the way our system here has worked and will continue to work best.

Just my opinion.

PS

liberty,

Point taken. I am however talking about pictures that are clear enough to see the subject, or else it’s useless anyway. I don’t consider something that I can’t see as qualifying as a picture. This brings up another point…even a crappy webcam can take a decent picture. Anyone who submits a black image and then blames it on their “low quality webcam” is full of it. Funny how this usually happens with the “big boys.”

penismith,

I doubt if anybody thinks that Bib just popped onto the scene as a new member boasting about his size. I’m sure he made a classy entrance years ago, not saying he has a 10 inch dick in his signature. Point not taken, but what you said at the end makes sense.

Was that the bit about the pens? I totally agree.

Not sure if I would be considered one of the big guys but I see the two points clearly… I know I was doubted previous to posting pics but that didn’t make my claims false… On the other side some of the claims are amazing indeed, they could be true but I guess we have to wait…

As a guy who came here over 9” in length, and over 6” in girth, I’ll weigh in here. Maybe I’m being presumptuous, but some might put me in the larger category.

I have never posted a pic. And to be honest, I don’t ever intend to. There are specific reasons why I wouldn’t, but that is beyond the point.

There is no call for 5x4” guys to post pics. I understand that certain sizes are not common, so there is an interest. But you have to consider overall credibility. And if a certain measurement is total bullshit - so what. It wouldn’t be the first lie ever told or heard.

No skin off my dick - and all those other platitudes. Thing is, men put a lot of self worth in dick size. No one wants to believe that someone out there is bigger. But the fact is there are some big dicks out there, as unsettling as that may be.

This isn’t about me I don’t think. But I look at it this way: If someone thinks I’m smaller than I am, it doesn’t lessen my snatch stretching by a single millimeter. OTOH, lying about size doesn’t enable someone to put anymore in, than is actually available.

Like I said, I don’t think this is about me. But I don’t sell fiction. Or have a commitment to keepin it fake. All that stuff.

Bib never posted a pic from what I understand. Yet people believe his stats. Over all credibility has to be considered.

This might have come off as a whole lot of testosterone. So, if it rankles, subtract the braggadocio. I just felt like talking a little sh**. But outside of the sh** talking, the other thoughts ring true.

Now if a guy was saying that he had some ground breaking new maneuver that allowed him to gain some remarkable amount in a scant amount of time? Then the whole PE credibility aspect might come into play, IMO.

Other than that, if a guy is selling himself - and everyone else - a dream, then that’s just what it is. Would’nt be the first or last time. And in my mind, I don’t think that creates a communal credibility issue.

It might affect that particular person’s credibility. But PE? I wouldn’t think so.

No it’s not about you anonymous! Though if it had been, you dealt with it very well indeed. Pity it wasn’t you really.

This begs the question why nobody at the office of homeland security has yet proposed a “National Penis I.D. Card”?

The way I see it, people can alter their faces by way of plastic surgery, growing facial hair, wearing Groucho glasses - but a mandatory dick pic card….now that would work because as we all know: You can’t alter the size of your penis. :leftie:

anonymous,

After thinking a bit more, It’s not guys that come here saying they have a big dick that I am skeptical of (I know many guys have big ones naturally), it’s the ones who say they’ve made tremendous gains before they are even “members.” Maybe I shouldn’t put a label on who should and who shouldn’t, but if your going to boast about your size and your gains regularly, post a pic to shut everyone up. I have never noticed you acting like the way in question in any threads, and that’s probably why I believe you are naturally big.

Ok, just a tought… lets say that all the “big guys” are faking their sizes… so, the 1” you gain in this 8 months (just an example) of PEing, suddenly become a lie too? Remember, we are here to improve ourselves, not to see some pics of guys claiming big dicks, (some of them with genuine gains and sizes, others not, who knows?) REMEMBER, our PEing prize is when our girl say, “are you getting bigger? its feel soooo much better!” Thats why we are here, thats why we want to improve ourselves! The pics of the gains are like a “plus” in this forum.

Pics? pics it just for show how much you have gain! (and if you got a “before” picture its better), thats why i take pics of myself, as a reference! I´ll post my pics as soon i hit 9” lenght (1.875 to go :-, ) the before and after pics, but, until then, ill take a pic each month, just as a reference. Maybe in 3 or 4 years of PEing, having a 10”X7” dick, still posting in this forum trying to help the ones who want to get a bigger dick, someone relatively new on this forum will have doubts, of course, but hey!, we are here to learn, and belive (if you see gains on your dick, who cares what other people say? you are making your dick grow!). So, pics of others guys? nah! i dont care that much! :spin:

Peace! :D

There is like, what, 17,000 members now? Out of all those guys out there all over the world many are very literate, most probably. The group would quickly foil any fakery done with such programs as MS Photoshop and the like. I personally think the big gainers should post pics to lend credibility to the Art. We all want to believe PE works, and we do believe it or we would not be here. I’ve made some pretty fair girth gains in the last year, nothing legendary, but maybe significant enough to perpetuate some inspiration, yet have not posted pics. Mostly because I don’t have a good digital cam. But I have been keeping a pretty good journal documented on film, which I’m sure will find its way onto this forum. I know in my heart that I will eventually obtain my goal 8X6, and when I do I will be so proud of it nothing will prevent me from posting pics. But for now my gains are not staggering enough to lend any credibility to the Art so I have not gone to the time or expense to go digital and post pics. But I can’t imagine anyone making the big gains some of the big gainers have claimed without posting pics. Believe me, if I’d gained 3 or 4 inches, the world would have to see it. HAVE TO SEE IT!

Uhhhhh, Am I completely insane?

I could have sworn that I posted in this thread a few hours ago.