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Thank you for your excellent contribution to our community, your efforts are noted and appreciated. On a side note, I would like to request that you make some room for myself and a few eager members who are still going to do a lot of growing. We aspire to make you list in due course:) .

Nonetheless, thank you.


05/12/2005 : BPEL: 6.1"x EG:5.5" Current as of : 24/12/2011 : BPEL 7.87" x EG: 6.3" Long term Goal 8.5"x 6.4"

" There is only one option success; for failure is the refusal to persist"

Did you message him with your routines and gains?

I assume you’re not waiting for him to do the hard work !

Great gains by the way.

BaddJack

BaddJack

This is one big gainer that requires a disclaimer. The mods have posted warnings all over his threads that his methods are not recommended, at all.

BaddJack is a case of PE at any costs, and an example of how not to do PE, in the opinion of many veterans. Although his gains make him one of the biggest gainers on the site, it has clearly come at the cost of general penis health. The most notable problem is extreme discoloration. The skin also appears to be tougher. And although he is an older guy with some other unhealthy habits, he also uses ED pills. Could be related to his methods, or unrelated. None of this bothers BaddJack, as he says he doesn’t care about the appearance of his unit. It should bother most of us though. PE should not come at the cost of penis health.

Age: 60+ years
Pre-PE Size: Either 6.0” or 6.5” BPEL x 4.5” midshaft girth, based on two separate mentions.
Current Size: As of his last update, he states size at 8.5” BPEL x 7”+ midshaft girth.
Time period: 30+ Years of PE, with major gains coming in the last 2 years with more extreme methods.
Length gain: 2.0” – 2.5”
Girth Gain: 2.5”
Volume Gain: 20 – 21 cubic inches, or about 335 cubic centimeters.

Luckily we know a lot about BaddJack’s techniques. He gave quite a bit of detail in responding to several questions by quim92.

As mentioned before, he has 30+ years of PE experience. From my understanding, much of the first 28 years was spent on stretching, hanging, and clamping. For his clamping, he used a nylon strap, cock ring, clamp, or adjustable band as a clamp, and then manually jelqed blood past the clamp. In these 28 years, he gained from about 6.25” BPEL x 4.5 midshaft girth up to about 6.75” BPEL by 5.5” midshaft girth. Gains of about 0.5” length and 1.0” girth.

He describes his technique as follows, “I either clamp or use an adjustable nylon strap at the base to constrict blood flow. From below the restriction, I use two or three fingers and milk up to that point, to force blood to engorge the penis above the restriction. Once it maxes out, the glans becomes extremely hard and glossy and the outer skin of the shaft gets a burning sensation from the over pressurized blood vessels. Discoloration is guaranteed if you do it right, there is no gain without pain.” He was able to achieve so much internal pressure with his clamping technique that he has several times popped a blood vessel at the glans with the attendant bleeding.

He had a do-it-yourself experimental nature about PE throughout his career. He experimented with making his own hangers and extenders in early years, but never had much success. Obviously he experimented with several types of clamps and clamp techniques.

In about April or May 2013 he got more serious about PE, going from 6.75” to 7.5” BPEL over a six-month period using an extender. Next, he pumped for several months, presumably with normal pressures, gaining girth up to 5.0 glans, 5.5 mid-shaft, 6.5 base. For the last few months of that year, he did some combination of the above, reaching 8.0” BPEL with girth measurements of 5.0 glans, 6.0 mid-shaft, and 7.0 base.

In April 2014 he began a routine of high pressure pumping, at 15”+ Hg twice daily, followed immediately by his powerful clamping technique. He gained up to 8.5” BPEL and 6.0 glans / 7.0 mid-shaft / 8.0 base girth in about one month using this routine. I tend to doubt any 1.0” girth gain in a month. However, he does mention that this measurement was taken with an injection-induced maximum erection, possibly accounting for part of the quick gain. If I understand correctly, his previous measurements were taken with no injection.

This is perhaps a good time to mention BaddJack’s extensive supplementation. He took weekly testosterone injections for ED, as well as occasional Viagra and Cialis. In addition, he supplemented with ginkgo bilboa, horny goat weed, pine bark, maca, ginseng extract, DHEA, L-lysine, L-Arginine, and a few others. Trimix injections for sex. PT-141 and MT-2 for sunburn prevention on offshore fishing trips. He also states he is an excessive drinker, excessive eater, and smoker of cigars. He mentions that he occasionally used chemical PE, the trimix injections to cause an intentional priapism on which he would then use PE methods.

For his high pressure pump technique – He used what’s commonly called a dynamic pump routine, increasing the vacuum incrementally, stop and release when painful or elongation stops. Then resume the vacuum at an incrementally higher pressure. Usually once per day, but twice a day if possible. He noticed quicker gains and expansion once he crossed the 15” Hg pressure level. The highest pressure he mentions is 20” Hg. It’s my understanding that although he technically used dynamic pumping methods, he would stay at these high pressures for considerably longer than most would. Spending anywhere from 1-5 minutes at the extreme pressures, causing circulation issues, and contributing to the discoloration.

The time frames for his work out during the last couple years of extreme gains were as follows. He would combine the extreme pumping and clamping into one routine. He did his 30 minute session of pumping first and then followed it up with either a single set, or a few minutes of clamping – it’s not clear how many he did, but my understanding is 5-10 minutes for a total combined routine time of 30-40 minutes.

In October and November 2014 he had taken a few weeks off from PE, and then restarted with increased routine times, now going 30-60 minutes twice daily in the pump, and an additional 30 minutes of extreme ULI’s.

His fastest gaining periods were with zero rest days. However, in the interest of general penis health, he eventually began taking about every other day off.

No updates since then, but he is still going for additional length, and hopefully no more girth for the obvious reasons. Despite the length only goal, he continued to make extreme pumping and clamping the basis of his routine, and is going for more length by staying in his current diameter pump tube. He is staying with what works for him, and hanging and extending would require more time commitment.

This thread gives excellent information on many of his techniques.
Need Length Advice

This is his picture post, showing the extreme discoloration.
BaddJack’s Progress
“My best work is done with the lights off.” – BaddJack

Again I will mention that his gains by extreme PE methods were obtained at a price. Multiple times clamping induced bleeding in the tip of the glans. With high pressure pumping, he pulled a blister on the glans on multiple occasions. He believes that he hardened and scarred this area to the point where it will no longer bleed. I will let the pictures speak for themselves, except to ask is hardening and scarring of the glans with extreme discoloration really worth it? Not for most of us.


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Bad Jack

First, a major shout out to BD for this thread, it is really informative. Thanks!

As for Bad Jack’s story, it sounds like he is pleased with his results. But for me, I’d rather have a smaller cock than cope with the problems he has.

Bearded Dragon,

This is an incredible post. Thank you very much for all of the hard work and dedication that you have put into compiling all of this information and making it available in an easy to use format. You are truly an immeasurable asset to the PE community.


Relentless dedication and commitment to PE and success in life. Where will you be in 10 years? Are you getting all of the available output?

Glad it’s helping. When I first started out I sought out this information almost relentlessly, eventually I decided to start writing it down as I found it. Now almost 3 years into PE, I understand all the concepts, I’ve tried almost everything, and it’s time to just keep doing it. But I still like studying some big gainers now and then for motivation.

Good luck with your gains and remember that these guys worked up to their sometimes extreme routines. Don’t want anybody ripping their dick off because of me :) .


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Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
Glad it’s helping. When I first started out I sought out this information almost relentlessly, eventually I decided to start writing it down as I found it. Now almost 3 years into PE, I understand all the concepts, I’ve tried almost everything, and it’s time to just keep doing it. But I still like studying some big gainers now and then for motivation.

Good luck with your gains and remember that these guys worked up to their sometimes extreme routines. Don’t want anybody ripping their dick off because of me :) .


Lol! I appreciate it. I’ll keep that in mind. :-)

impressive work, congrats


Creciendo día a día... en todos los sentidos :D

BaddJack is now using an extender, he has been using it since he asked for length advise. I don’t recall that “going from 6.75” to 7.5” BPEL over a six-month period using an extender.”


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

He’s still gaining too. That earlier extender use was from his “need length advice” thread.

Here’s another interesting bit from BaddJack’s progress which I didn’t mention. He sometimes used a glans protector (glans sleeve / glans extender) to allow pumping at higher pressure for longer time periods. I haven’t tested it out yet, but for $2 it seems worth a try for any high pressure pumpers.


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When he gained from 6.75” to 7.5” BPEL over a six-month period using an extender, did he also pump or did his extreme ulli ?

It is rare he gained with an extender after having worked so much on his dick with previous extreme methods.


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

That’s a good point quim92, it would be rare after 28 years of PE to gain from an extender. His log doesn’t say specifically what else he was doing during those six months. Somehow I imagine BaddJack found a way to increase the tension in the extender way beyond it’s normal level at the expense of circulation.


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glans protector

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
Here’s another interesting bit from BaddJack’s progress which I didn’t mention. He sometimes used a glans protector (glans sleeve / glans extender) to allow pumping at higher pressure for longer time periods. I haven’t tested it out yet, but for $2 it seems worth a try for any high pressure pumpers.

BD,

I dynamically pump in the range 4 - 14”Hg using a Mr Fantastic water pump and currently use a glans protector. It works great provided I put baby powder on my glans before I fit the protector. I pump for 60 mins at a time. This combo really works. Without the baby powder I was getting blood blisters which slowed me down.

Austfred

Wow, it sounds really promising. Glans stinging and blistering is the limiting factor for me on high pressure pumping. I will give it a try. Thanks.

BD


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Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
Wow, it sounds really promising. Glans stinging and blistering is the limiting factor for me on high pressure pumping. I will give it a try. Thanks.

BD

You gotta come out every twenty to thirty minutes to expose the glans to oxygen.

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