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I use one of those gel bags that are microwavable and freezable. 1 minute in the microwave lasts a good 30 minutes, and another 30 seconds in the microwave once it starts to get cool gives it even longer. Very easy, and no mess. Can easily wrap it around your penis too.
http://smicoldt … .com/store.html
If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you can see them there. I have a few of them from when I had shoulder surgery.
I’ve never tried heat , but I’d love to
Bought an IR lamp today, for pumping it really feels amazing! Great stretch and fullness after my session, expansion was great. Should have bought one earlier..
Gonna try my fulcrum routine with it tomorrow :-)
Start 2013-04-04: BPEL: 6.3 EG: 5.9
Latest 2016-12-09: BPEL: 7.4 EG: 6,5
Future: BPEL: 9.0 EG 6.8
I do my newbie routine on the shower and I put heat with hot water, but I’m little bit worried about it killing my sperms, think just take care with the balls and that’s ok, right?
I do my newbie routine on the shower and I put heat with hot water, but I’m little bit worried about it killing my sperms, think just take care with the balls and that’s ok, right?
I posted a study a while back that showed a significant decrease in testicle weight (in rats) from heat. The day after reading that I was taking much colder showers :)
Starting Stats - 5.5 BPEL x 5.6 EG
Current Stats - 5.7 BPEL x 6.5 EG
Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)
I do my newbie routine on the shower and I put heat with hot water, but I’m little bit worried about it killing my sperms, think just take care with the balls and that’s ok, right?
Unless you have a wife who is trying to conceive a baby, it’s unimportant.
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All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".
Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results
Constant heat has got to be the most effective tip on achieving gains.
Constant heat has got to be the most effective tip on achieving gains.
100% agreed, but I am super careful to keep the balls unheated. It goes far past just killing sperm, it can actually cause damage to the balls, even decrease them in size.
Starting Stats - 5.5 BPEL x 5.6 EG
Current Stats - 5.7 BPEL x 6.5 EG
Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)
100% agreed, but I am super careful to keep the balls unheated. It goes far past just killing sperm, it can actually cause damage to the balls, even decrease them in size.
Could you (or anyone else) link a source for this claim? I don’t refute it, but I am curious what ‘heat’ is here in terms of exposure time and temperature for example.
Yeah when I get back home I’ll post the studies.
Starting Stats - 5.5 BPEL x 5.6 EG
Current Stats - 5.7 BPEL x 6.5 EG
Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)
Moist Heat or Dry Heat for Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness - PMC
Since strength was reduced when heat was applied at 24 hours, there was damage to the muscle fibers unresolved by heat. But since elasticity was maintained if heat was applied at 24 hours, then a logical conclusion is that heat after 24 hours allowed the healing of tendon and connective tissue so that elasticity was retained but did not help the muscle fibers themselves. This is also shown in the skin resistance data. Here moist heat immediately after exercise was just as effective as dry heat applied immediately and 1 day post exercise. But for pain, moist heat immediately after exercise was more effective than dry heat just after exercise. If either modality was applied 24 hours post exercise, the effects were minimal on pain.The greater preservation of strength with heat is probably related to increased blood flow in deep tissues [37]. This would increase metabolism and wash away metabolic products that would increase damage to the tissues. Metabolism in tissue doubles for every 2 degree centigrade increase in tissue temperature, allowing for greater healing [37]. Normal shell tissues such as the quadriceps are as much as 5 degrees C less than core temperature [38, 39]. Thus increasing temperature would as much as quadruple metabolism. It is normal for muscle blood flow to increase after exercise due to inflammation and injury [34, 40] such as with delayed onset muscle soreness. But the slow application of heat should cause blood flow to stay elevated to a much higher level and for a longer period of time and allow for better healing of the tissues damaged by DOMS. Pain relief was also seen with moist and dry heat. This is probably due to both faster healing and also gating of pain by skin temperature sensitive ion channels blocking deep pain.
The results of these experiments then show that in spite of the fact that moist heat was only applied for ¼ the duration of dry heat, it was just as effective if not more effective in reducing pain and muscle damage after exercise.
Subcutaneous fat above the quadriceps muscle varied from 0.51 to 0.86 cm of thickness. Three heating modalities were examined: the application of dry heat with a commercial chemical heat pack, hydrocollator heat packs (providing a type of moist heat), and a whirlpool, where conductive heat loss through water contact would be very high. The temperature of the skin and the temperature in the muscle (25 mm below the skin surface) were assessed by thermocouples. The results of the experiments showed that for heating modalities that are maintained in skin contact for long periods of time, such as dry heat packs (in place for 6 hours), subcutaneous fat did not impair the change in deep muscle temperature. In contrast, when rapid heat modalities were used, such as the hydrocollator and the whirlpool (15 minutes of sustained skin contact), the transfer of heat from the skin to deep muscle was significantly impaired in people with thicker subcutaneous fat layers. We observed that the greater the impairment in heat transfer to muscle from skin covered by body fat, the warmer the skin temperature increase during the modality.
Heat transfer to deep tissue: the effect of body fat and heating modality - PubMed
The muscle temperature after immersion in water approached that of the packs within approximately 20 minutes. In contrast, when hot and cold packs were used with various thickness of towels ranging from 2 to 10 mm in thickness, the change in muscle temperature was much less and it was still changing at the end of a 20 minute period.
Use your heat packs if you want, at this point it’s pretty clear to me that hands warmers (if used for hours), and moist heat (used long enough as well, 15-20 minutes? insulating cups, washcloth? think about testicles too!) are the way to go to warm up. Also either ?ll do a very thorough warm up to actually heat the tissues, or I won’t be bothered, the in between is useless. Afaik cheap incandescent bulbs just emit a light that heats the surface, the studies on penetrative infrared light corresponded to 830 nm of wavelength, which does not produce heat but should increase energy production inside the tissues. I’m curious about steaming the penis (think mem’s warm up), I don’t know if it’s more effective than moist heat, by feel I’d say it’s possible.
Here is all I could find on steaming lol:
The Right Steam Does The Right Thing | Tuttnauer
Firstly during sterilization, the wetness in the steam clogs the pores of packed loads and prevents the steam from properly penetrating wrapped loads or sealed pouches. The wetness prevents the steam from penetrating the load.
I’d like to find their results but have not: https://www.biw .kuleuven.be/m2 … 17-final-report
Unless you have a wife who is trying to conceive a baby, it’s unimportant.
It’s not only about temporary infertility, too bad because vapour bath sounds like a ticket to gains in terms of heat quality and duration!
Testicular steroidogenesis is decreased by hyperthermia in old rats - PubMed
"Hyperthermia significantly decreased the testicular testosterone level in old male rats and significantly lowered the StAR protein level. These data imply that frequent hot baths might impair testicular steroidogenesis, especially in old men."
Effects of local testicular heat treatment on Leydig cell hyperplasia and testosterone biosynthesis in rat testes - PubMed
"Heat treatment reduced serum and testicular testosterone concentrations. Consistent with this finding, heat stress downregulated two enzymes required for testosterone biosynthesis, namely cytochrome P450, family 17 (CYP17) and steroidogenic acute regulatory protein, in Leydig cells. Together, the results suggest that testicular heat leads to Leydig cell hyperplasia and a reduction in testosterone biosynthesis in adult rat testes."
100% agreed, but I am super careful to keep the balls unheated. It goes far past just killing sperm, it can actually cause damage to the balls, even decrease them in size.
Very true. I am a fan of a warm wash cloth for stretching, heating pad on cylinder for pumping, and space heating with balls tucked under buttocks on a chair while jelqing.
Thanks for the links Walter,
So basically moist heat is the way to go. I guess I’ll stick with finishing off my routine in the shower :)
Thanks for the links Walter,
So basically moist heat is the way to go. I guess I’ll stick with finishing off my routine in the shower :)
I don’t know how much heat at the end of the work out helps or not, cold has been mentioned with equal interest. Experimenting should give a better answer. From the links I posted it seems that a proper warm up and possibly reheating during the session or using continuous moist heat would be very nice (no big news here). As I said I see less and less the point of using heat if it’s not to really do it thoroughly. I’m curious if moist heat on off days would help with healing, it seems to work for deep muscles recovery.
Anyways, I need to actually experiment more with those ideas . :)