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Average Penis Size Shrinking

You are building suppositions on suppositions guys. There isn’t any proof that the average penis is shrinking.

Originally Posted by a-unit
I get the fact that you are a scientist, but the sociological pressure on men for the last 100 year’s to be less than women is bound to have some effect on hormone production and therefore some effect on dick size.

A man who is not supported and validated in his natural roles is bound to suffer.

Dude, I don’t know where you live but that must be a exclusivity of your country, I am a fully man with a career and a family and like I say here everyday, I don’t let woman trample on me, neither in job, neither in home. If shit happens (like my wife disrespecting me) I deal with the shit like a man.

What I see here (a lot!) and in a lot of others places is woman taking a shit in mens head because they let too, just because she is pretty or smelly or have the perfect pussy.

So if a movie, series or whatever is teaching woman how to mistreat man, fuck it they.

BTW how the hell a man could modify their testosterone levels just by acting differently?? Serious there a lot of tranny who struggle all the life with their testosterone, and they act complete like a woman, I can’t follow this.

Maybe it’s because we are eating more food (crappy food BTW) and getting more fat than in the whole history.

PS: I am not trying to be the “macho man”, I am just simply saying that if you let people (and this include crazy woman, man, bosses, tranny, midget, dwarves, hell even elfs!) treat your bad, they will.

Originally Posted by marinera
You are building suppositions on suppositions guys. There isn’t any proof that the average penis is shrinking.

No, of course not, but I personally suffered active psychological castration at the hand of the mother of my children, which granted didn’t effect my penis size, but testosterone levels and sperm count took a substantial hit I assure you..

As a psychotherapist I can assure you there are families of matriarchal psychopaths that crush men and this kind of ongoing repression is bound to manifest physiologically as well as mentally.

I am working with one such woman presently who’s male family members are drunks and drug addicts, and she’s worried her son will follow suit.

Uncles, brothers, grandfather abandoned by her father and risks chewing her sons head off also.

She is beginning to see the pattern and her role in it.

It is hard if not impossible to do standard science in these cases for obvious reasons, but as a professional I can assure you the men in these particular types of families are suffering in body and mind.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by marinera
You are building suppositions on suppositions guys. There isn’t any proof that the average penis is shrinking.

No, of course not, but I personally suffered active psychological castration at the hand of the mother of my children, which granted didn’t effect my penis size, but testosterone levels and sperm count took a substantial hit I assure you..

As a psychotherapist I can assure you there are families of matriarchal psychopaths that crush men and this kind of ongoing repression is bound to manifest physiologically as well as mentally.

I am working with one such woman presently who’s male family members are drunks and drug addicts, and she’s worried her son will follow suit.

Uncles, brothers, grandfather abandoned by her father and risks chewing her sons head off also.

She is beginning to see the pattern and her role in it.

It is hard if not impossible to do standard science in these cases for obvious reasons, but as a professional I can assure you the men in these particular types of families are suffering in body and mind.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

I’d say this is a different topic, right?

Originally Posted by DomXZ
Testosterone production is related to many social factors.

If you inhibit men from being or taking part of these situations, you’re bound to alter testosterone levels. As testosterone is responsible for the development of male reproductive tissue, you could argue that lower testosterone -may- have some effect. Only a study could answer that question, but I don’t think it’s a silly notion to argue that there’s some link.

What ‘situations’ are you talking about, exactly? Playing sports? Watching sports? Bare-knuckle boxing? High-fiving each other after a dirty joke? Wresting in Jell-O?

Bear in mind that testosterone is first and foremost a sex hormone, and that mainstream society is more sexualized than ever before. Kids watch music videos on MTV containing imagery that would have been considered pornography a couple of generations ago, and with the ubiquity of the internet, most of them have access to actual hardcore porn as well.

Originally Posted by wibble
What ‘situations’ are you talking about, exactly? Playing sports? Watching sports? Bare-knuckle boxing? High-fiving each other after a dirty joke? Wresting in Jell-O?

Bear in mind that testosterone is first and foremost a sex hormone, and that mainstream society is more sexualized than ever before. Kids watch music videos on MTV containing imagery that would have been considered pornography a couple of generations ago, and with the ubiquity of the internet, most of them have access to actual hardcore porn as well.

Testosterone is also a socializing hormone,


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Anyway, let’s get a few things straight.

- Even if we accept at face value the ‘findings’ of this ‘research’, bear in mind it’s come from Italy (still a pretty macho culture, last time I looked - sure Marinera will correct me if I’m totally wrong on this), NOT the USA, home of the ‘feminazis’.

- If there’s any truth to the claims at all, a likely explanation is that dicks have stayed the same size while waistlines (and fat pads) have increased. The report, such as it is, also mentions stress (poorer circulation?) and air pollution as possible culprits.

- However I’ve not heard of any size surveys from 50 years ago that were conducted with anything like proper clinical rigour, the most famous one being Kinsey which relied on self-reported measurements and can safely be disregarded as severely distorted by exaggeration.

- The website that the ‘news’ piece links to looks incredibly lightweight while the ‘article’ itself contains only a few lines of text and a stock photo, with no figures, further links or references. It doesn’t say who commissioned the study, who conducted it, where and when it was done, how many subjects there were - nada.

In summary: if dicks are shrinking anywhere, they’re shrinking in Italy; if they are shrinking, it’s because of increasing obesity/air pollution; but in fact they’re very probably not shrinking at all, because all we have to go on is a completely unsubstantiated claim on the internet.

The evidence that a sinister feminist plot to feminize men is causing dick-shrinkage in the USA is collated below:

Originally Posted by wibble
Bear in mind that testosterone is first and foremost a sex hormone, and that mainstream society is more sexualized than ever before. Kids watch music videos on MTV containing imagery that would have been considered pornography a couple of generations ago, and with the ubiquity of the Internet, most of them have access to actual hardcore porn as well.


What about estrogen? Does that have anything to do with the effects of younger girls “maturing” and developing way before they used to previously? I think most would say yes, don’t you?

If young boys are exposed to hardcore porn earlier logic assumes they are whacking it as well. Might be over stepping my assumptions but hasn’t chronic masturbating led to lower T- levels? Those T-levels never get a chance to climb and eventually spike in the body (On the 7Th day as studies show) back at normal levels so the child is essentially pouring out his hormone and not receiving the growing effects. I think there are many good reasons for why Oriental cultures considered it to be the life juice or essence of the body. Can’t lose it!

Originally Posted by wibble

The evidence that a sinister feminist plot to feminize men is causing dick-shrinkage in the USA is collated below:

When they come for Thunder. I’ll be standing there, large dick in hand ready to slay.

Originally Posted by a-unit
No, of course not, but I personally suffered active psychological castration at the hand of the mother of my children, which granted didn’t effect my penis size, but testosterone levels and sperm count took a substantial hit I assure you..

As a psychotherapist I can assure you there are families of matriarchal psychopaths that crush men and this kind of ongoing repression is bound to manifest physiologically as well as mentally.

I am working with one such woman presently who’s male family members are drunks and drug addicts, and she’s worried her son will follow suit.

Uncles, brothers, grandfather abandoned by her father and risks chewing her sons head off also.

She is beginning to see the pattern and her role in it.

It is hard if not impossible to do standard science in these cases for obvious reasons, but as a professional I can assure you the men in these particular types of families are suffering in body and mind.

Hey, stop talking crap about my mother, both me and my brother ’ love’ her, lol. :D

Originally Posted by PatientlyGrowin
What about estrogen? Does that have anything to do with the effects of younger girls “maturing” and developing way before they used to previously? I think most would say yes, don’t you?

If young boys are exposed to hardcore porn earlier logic assumes they are whacking it as well. Might be over stepping my assumptions but hasn’t chronic masturbating led to lower T- levels? Those T-levels never get a chance to climb and eventually spike in the body (On the 7Th day as studies show) back at normal levels so the child is essentially pouring out his hormone and not receiving the growing effects. I think there are many good reasons for why Oriental cultures considered it to be the life juice or essence of the body. Can't lose it!

Oh god, here we go again. Can I just say, definitively and for the record: THERE IS NOTHING TO BE GAINED FROM GOING FOR LONG PERIODS WITHOUT EJACULATING, IN FACT IT PUTS YOU AT GREATER RISK OF PROSTATE CANCER. I don’t think semen contains enough testosterone that ejaculating significantly lowers the amount in your body, in fact blood testosterone level slightly increases following ejaculation. Seriously, if I had a dime for every time I’d read the same old bullshit about “traditional Chinese medicine” and “conserving vital energy”…

Semen is not “energy”. It’s a natural bodily product that you have an inexhaustible supply of. It makes about as much sense to avoid spitting when you brush your teeth in order to conserve water.

Also, I think it’s a bit naive to think that young boys never masturbated before the advent of internet pornography - my point was that young people are exposed to a lot more sexual imagery than they used to be.

The oestrongen question is a bit more complicated because there are industrial and agricultural chemicals that can mimic its effects - you must have heard about sex-indeterminate frogs and fish, that sort of thing. And it’s been known for a while that the quality of human semen is declining in some developed countries. Nonetheless, the world’s population continues to grow, so it doesn’t look like we’re

Wibble, don’t write sentences in capital letters, please. The Boss goes mad about.

Oops. I know it looks assholish, I try to avoid it in general but I just get tired of reading the same pseudoscience rehashed over and over again on different forums. Of course that’s the fault of any one individual person who happens to come out with it. Mods, please feel free to un-cap-ify the offending sentence. :)

Originally Posted by wibble
Oh god, here we go again. Can I just say, definitively and for the record: THERE IS NOTHING TO BE GAINED FROM GOING FOR LONG PERIODS WITHOUT EJACULATING, IN FACT IT PUTS YOU AT GREATER RISK OF PROSTATE CANCER. I don’t think semen contains enough testosterone that ejaculating significantly lowers the amount in your body, in fact blood testosterone level slightly increases following ejaculation. Seriously, if I had a dime for every time I’d read the same old bullshit about “traditional Chinese medicine” and “conserving vital energy”..

Semen is not “energy”. It’s a natural bodily product that you have an inexhaustible supply of. It makes about as much sense to avoid spitting when you brush your teeth in order to conserve water.

Also, I think it’s a bit naive to think that young boys never masturbated before the advent of internet pornography - my point was that young people are exposed to a lot more sexual imagery than they used to be.

The oestrongen question is a bit more complicated because there are industrial and agricultural chemicals that can mimic its effects - you must have heard about sex-indeterminate frogs and fish, that sort of thing. And it’s been known for a while that the quality of human semen is declining in some developed countries. Nonetheless, the world’s population continues to grow, so it doesn’t look like we’re

Is there a strong correlation between not ejaculating and prostate cancer?

Some of the martial-art related material I’ve read over the years in study and practice of Aikido suggests that the preservation of chi energy is critical to mastering the self and the art. I personally don’t adhere to such practice as I quite like the release, but I understand those who conform to the akidoka’s rules entirely are after mastery, whereas I am perfectly happy to practice.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

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