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Originally Posted by Walter5169
I don’t really want to add to all that has been said to you Monty, but did you ever wonder if you were attracted to males (I don’t say this in an offensive way).

As I said I won’t post pics as I really don’t care about what others may think and I’m not trying to convince anyone.

If I gain a decent amount and share my experiences and knowledge for free, without the messiah embellishments then I won’t lose any time to prove anything to anyone. People may make the effort to try it for themselves as I have, and there’s no science set in stone with PE, you need to find what works for you, as long as you haven’t you can have doubts it will work for you , but leave the others be.

By the way if you have been on this forum for this long and into PE for twenty years + with no gains, you have to admit part of you believe into it, if not then just move on, life is short and there’s no time to lose on a forum you think is all fake, to eventually grow a bigger penis even though you don’t need one since your wife loves you.

Edit: DLD is full of shit just because of the way he messes with others people health , telling them to do horrendous exercises, buy all devices and creams and supplements. Whether or not he gained I don’t care, he sees himself as a guru and people usually worship him on mos. I find this ridiculous.

LMAO. Walter. It’s not offensive to me. It’s incredibly funny though. Caught me off guard in a good way. I love humor. Brother, I’ve always let others be. Read my threads. I’ve only responded. I am willing to listen if you’ll quote where I attacked someone ok. Quote it here. Now, it cannot be a response to someone accusing me or addressing my behaviors ok. It has to be a malicious, “you’re a liar” thread. I am all about what works for me. I’m defending it relentlessly it seems! I’m also about helping others who seek it. It should not diminish what you do brother. Wow, I do NOT believe that TP is all fake. I’m posting and documenting brother. I DO admit there’s a whole lot of swimming to find the shore though. Mods, please allow this as the emphasis is needed: FUCK yes, I believe in the possibility or I would not be here! FUCK, FUCK, yes. Please don’t doubt that. Otherwise, I’m just a weirdo with a weirdo agenda. I am active and actively trying for all to see now ok. Can you not at least see that. Put in 1.2 hours hanging today while typing most of this today. You WILL GET TO SEE as I go along.

Guys, as I go, please give me the respect of directly answering. I am not malicious. I am a decent human being ok.

There is bold for emphasis. I just asked you to not write in capital letters and you gave shit to this request.

I had tried and failed at PE for many years. About half my life I have been failing at PE. Yet I kept believing it was possible. Pictures or no pictures I believed people on Thunders in general. I just find it hard to believe that so many people would be in on a cruel joke or be delusional.

I could tell by the way some people write that their intentions are good. I could be wrong but you can kind of tell when someone is delusional. This might be bad of me but please read polly123’s thread and you will get an idea of delusional.

The issue with pictures and progress logs is that even if 250,000 people joined today only a small percentage are going to post a picture. Only a small percentage are going to start a log. In my opinion of the 250,000 people only a very small percentage are going to see gains. This is not because PE doesn’t work. This is because most people lack the consistency and perseverance to make a change in their life. That is the honest truth.

I am a master of lacking consistency and perseverance. Monty71466 if you are honest with yourself you know that you also are a master of lacking consistency and perseverance.

Hanging worked for me. However, I think I found the right technique at the right time. The right time was my wife devastated my life by cheating on me. If my wife hadn’t cheated on me, my story would be very different. I would probably stop by once or twice a year. Maybe half ass pull on my penis for a month or two and then quit when I don’t see results.

When I originally took my pictures they where for me. They where not for other people to see the light of PE. I figured they would be a tool to chart progress and it would almost shame me into pushing myself. I could have very easily not taken pictures. I don’t think most of us here start PE with the intention of showing other people that it works.

Now I feel like a convert to a cult. I want to share the message of PE. But that is not how I felt a year ago. However, I didn’t really doubt that it worked a year ago. To many people are sharing their struggles and writing from their heart. Plus their isn’t ads all over the place with people trying to hawk products. I have seen cheesy Internet reviews. When some people tell their stories here, they are laying the insecurities of their lives out for others to read. Most people don’t make up things like wife says she isnt attracted to me anymore.. my fault

Maybe that faith in it and finally being consistent allowed me to see it through.

I know that in your situation you are looking for something that works. However, you have admitted that you gained in the past and then lost those gains. In my opinion just repeat what you did to gain but do it longer and more of it. If something worked for you before why not keep doing that until it doesn’t work.


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Originally Posted by Monty71466

Guys, as I go, please give me the respect of directly answering. I am not malicious. I am a decent human being ok.

Thing is, you are not saying anything that you haven’t said over and over. Yes, we know you won’t listen to the advice of anyone who doesn’t post a perfect set of measured dick pics. That is your prerogative.

So far, that is all you have really said here on the topic of PE, and it would appear, on Betterman, and on Pegym and probably on MOS as well but I’m not going to sign up there to look.

I’m sure you do understand that people do PE for themselves, not to prove to others that it works. That in fact while it is perfectly logical to take measurements for ones own records, the only reason to take measured pics at all is if you want to show them to others, which in fact most guys do not want to do. Hence there are not many perfect sets of measured pics out there.


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Originally Posted by Monty71466
Guys, as I go, please give me the respect of directly answering. I am not malicious. I am a decent human being ok.

Yeah, Monty is being civil so far. He does need to stop telling others to “not postulate” unless he wants to stop postulating also. ;) Trimming your edge back Monty would probably result in others trimming back also.


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I personally regret not taking pictures when I began PE, but not show others or prove anything. I know what I have gained, and know others who have too simply because we shared posts together while doing different exercises.

I get private messages from new members and old asking what I did to gain. And I tell them.

Not once have I been challenged to provide picture proof. We all tend to trust reasonable results when clearly people have put in the time and effort.

Try doing that Monty, then you might not be quite so skeptical.


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Originally Posted by Monty71466
LMAO. Walter. It’s not offensive to me. It’s incredibly funny though. Caught me off guard in a good way. I love humor. Brother, I’ve always let others be. Read my threads. I’ve only responded. I am willing to listen if you’ll quote where I attacked someone ok. Quote it here. Now, it cannot be a response to someone accusing me or addressing my behaviors ok. It has to be a malicious, “you’re a liar” thread. I am all about what works for me. I’m defending it relentlessly it seems! I’m also about helping others who seek it. It should not diminish what you do brother. Wow, I do NOT believe that TP is all fake. I’m posting and documenting brother. I DO admit there’s a whole lot of swimming to find the shore though. Mods, please allow this as the emphasis is needed: FUCK yes, I believe in the possibility or I would not be here! FUCK, FUCK, yes. Please don’t doubt that. Otherwise, I’m just a weirdo with a weirdo agenda. I am active and actively trying for all to see now ok. Can you not at least see that. Put in 1.2 hours hanging today while typing most of this today. You WILL GET TO SEE as I go along.

Ok cool glad I made you laugh I had to take my chance with this idea!

What I’m saying with “leave others be”, is just don’t question them so much and ask for pics all the time, if you don’t believe someone, or if he looks really full of poop as Dld, then I guess it’s ok to share your view on it, otherwise there’s no point in stopping by. I don’t think you really offend anyone, but from the few posts I’ve read here it seems it can be annoying.

If you believe into it, and have been convinced that it is all about what works for you, then what do you need the pics for? The routines of these guys probably won’t do you any good, what matters is finding 1-3 exercises that you like, stick to them, read the less is more and physiologic indicators threads and it’s all you need really. Be consistent with one routine, start low, be happy to make your penis healthier (that should the first positive thing about PE ), increase intensity overtime and that’s it.

As firegoat suggested, a long deconditioning break would be beneficial.

Just chill out as well, if you’re happy about your life, your wife loves, there’s no need to prove us anything, and trying your best doesn’t mean trying all the successful routines, do your PE everyday for years, or hang 3 hours everyday!


Last edited by Walter5169 : 11-18-2014 at .

Originally Posted by cantlook
It takes a predetermined mindset to take photos in a way that will prove to others as opposed to proving to oneself. Most enter PE only wanting to prove to themselves so the bottom of the ruler is not as important as the measurement on the top. You know yourself that the ruler was complete and at the base of the penis, you are taking pictures of your length so you have a record of your progress. Taking the picture is hard so your first thought might be you need to get closer to clearly pick up the detail on the ruler. Not a bad idea in proving to yourself, but unfortunately, transferring those images over to others does not transfer that same trust that you had in your self and a shortened ruler with the base out of frame is the easiest way to fake a photo. So we have a problem. The first instinct of how to take a picture doesn’t align with the best way to take a photo to prove your length to someone else. So your looking for photos of members who not only took pictures and shared them but took pictures with the mindset of showing them to others, who gained, and who shared them here. The fact that is not a larger number of people does not prove or disprove anything in regards to PE in my opinion.

Sure makes sense. Maybe we can improve this for other members?? I’m trying. I just mentioned this very thing to someone. In the member’s only progress forum, there are quite a few awesome starting pics and stories from promising new guys. I HOPE to heck they continue the journey and continue posting. I feel they are the future value and have already naturally begun the documentation process. Heck, anyone trying to gain can be a “beginner” as of now.

As a side topic but kind of related. Do you think someone here would be up to writing an app or a add on to the site that would be basically the database on steroids?

Allow users to put what they did daily or weekly in regards to PE. Methods such as jelqing, stretching, clamping, hanging, ADS, extender. Even down to individual variations such as BTC vs OTS. Then have time spent, weight, amount of tension, reps, sets and so on.

Imagine a database that has a daily tracking of routines combined with measurements over time. I think this would answer a lot of questions or at least create more theories in regards to optimal routines. Then if people want to add pictures it would allow you to view routines and like a dating site allow you to filter out results by pictures. Just kidding on the dating part.


12/11/2013 BPEL 5 3/4 NBPEL 5 1/16 BPFSL 6 1/16 NBPFSL 5, EG Base 5 EG Mid 4 7/8 EG Below Glans 4 3/4

11/02/15 BPEL 7 1/8”, BPFSL 8 1/16”, EG Mid 5 1/4 —- Goals BPEL 7 1/2”, NBPEL 6 1/2", BPFSL 9” Motivational Resources Wanted

8/9/2014 259 lbs ---- 11/2/15 248 lbs 33.2% body fat Bhcentral's Progress Reports and Pictures

Originally Posted by ThunderSS
Yeah, Monty is being civil so far. He does need to stop telling others to “not postulate” unless he wants to stop postulating also. ;) Trimming your edge back Monty would probably result in others trimming back also.

Reasonable for sure. I promise and I’m trying. Hackles are up right now. :O)

What the Hell happened to this place? You’re all acting like children, over dick picks!

Originally Posted by a-unit
I personally regret not taking pictures when I began PE, but not show others or prove anything. I know what I have gained, and know others who have too simply because we shared posts together while doing different exercises.

I get private messages from new members and old asking what I did to gain. And I tell them.

Not once have I been challenged to provide picture proof. We all tend to trust reasonable results when clearly people have put in the time and effort.

Try doing that Monty, then you might not be quite so skeptical.

Yes, it’s always helpful to look back at those pics in the future especially if you’re struggling like I am. Are you new to the PE realm? I’d encourage you to post your pics as of now in your progress thread. I bet your traffic and influence increases. I mention because you express regret. Alleviate that now buddy. I am PE skeptical because I’ve exhausted myself trying. Read through my posts. I have further detailed the Jelq part based on a request. Mr. A-Unit, I hope you realize that I am not challenging you specifically. There is a feeling of challenge out there and I understand the defensiveness of it. I am not the typical guy who posts. I’m trying to weather this storm in the hopes it’ll provide value in the end.

What the Hell happened to this place? You’re all acting like children over dick pics !

Originally Posted by Monty71466
Yes, it’s always helpful to look back at those pics in the future especially if you’re struggling like I am. Are you new to the PE realm? I’d encourage you to post your pics as of now in your progress thread. I bet your traffic and influence increases. I mention because you express regret. Alleviate that now buddy. I am PE skeptical because I’ve exhausted myself trying. Read through my posts. I have further detailed the Jelq part based on a request. Mr. A-Unit, I hope you realize that I am not challenging you specifically. There is a feeling of challenge out there and I understand the defensiveness of it. I am not the typical guy who posts. I’m trying to weather this storm in the hopes it’ll provide value in the end.

What will provide value in the end is doing PE and not being skeptical of PE. I got modest gains from jelqing. It wasn’t until I began pumping with heat that my gains took off. The proof I have is seen daily in the morning when I’m still amazed with my morning wood and every time I pee I can see just how much my flaccid has changed.

Seeing others pics didn’t and any girth or length to my dick; consistent PE did.


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