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Originally Posted by marinera

Twisting jelqing? Forget about that if you love your penis.

Without wishing to sound churlish, I wasn’t actually seeking advice, if that’s what it is; just stating what I had done and feel that the procedure has merit. Of course I’m always willing to listen to good, sound advise, especially from someone who has previous experience of the process and or has suffered, or personally knows someone who has suffered injury through applying it. I have read other threads regarding twist stretching or bunching or what ever, on this site and again found a lot of negative one liners, but oddly enough a search of the injuries forum reveals not one reported case – I wonder why that might be? I also wonder why straightforward stretching is deemed ok but adding a twist is frowned upon. Ok, it might be risky, but then so is everything else, even getting out of bed carries an element of risk. Risk needs to be looked at in context or perspective and while the added element here MAY increase the risk of injury, I don’t see anything so far, other than people’s personal views, to support that.

If the penis is bent or twisted, it can tear the fibrous tissue casing that surrounds the erection chambers and cause a laceration in the tissue,” says Ira Sharlip, MD, spokesman for the American Urological Association and clinical professor of urology at University of California at San Francisco. “When it heals, scar tissue forms, and eventually it forms plaque.”

http://www.health.com/health/condit…0190054,00.html

Late Delayed Repair of Fractured Penis

Vijay Naraynsingh, Seetharaman Hariharan, Lester Goetz, Dilip Dan

Department of Clinical Surgical Sciences, The University of the West Indies, St.

Augustine, Trinidad, West Indies.

……………..

Case Report

A 26 year old man presented to our hospital more than three weeks after sustaining an

injury to his penis. While having sexual intercourse, he twisted his penis which rapidly

became swollen, detumescent and painful. Immediately after the injury, he was admitted

to another hospital, managed conservatively and discharged after 3 days. He was

followed up in the outpatient clinic of the same hospital, 21 days after trauma. At this

time, much of the swelling had subsided and he was advised not to have surgery.

However, two days later, he attended our hospital because of pain and angulation of the

penis during erection.

………….

http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi…09.008268v1.pdf

Well yes, I understand what the great doctor is saying; you CAN damage you cock in this fashion, and not that you WILL. The same can be said about crashing your car; you could die as a result, but not necessarily. Like I say, it’s the risk element you have to weigh up and risk applies to any form of PE.

As for the injury report it doesn’t say how the guy twisted his dick, only that it happened while having intercourse, presumably a freak accident? Now if the report said he’d injured himself twisting his dick while stretching it in a controlled PE routine then I’d be concerned. But he didn’t, and like I say, nobody else here has reported injury performing this procedure, which can’t be said for some of the more favoured procedures.

Having said this, please don’t get me wrong; I’m all for pepole expressing their concern, it’s just I feel on this occasion yours is a little misguided.

Originally Posted by seahorse

……But he didn’t, and like I say, nobody else here has reported injury performing this procedure, which can’t be said for some of the more favoured procedures.

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Perhaps because there aren’t so many people doing twisting jelqs? Jelqs are done in erect or semi-erect state and anyone with a grain of common sense will understand that it’s not a good idea to twist your penis while inflated.

Twisting stretches are called bundles stretches, I think; years ago they were popular, but not anymore, since they were pretty much ineffective.

The degree of dangerousity of bundle stretches is lower, since the penis is flaccid, but still it’s not a good idea to twist vessels, IMHO; and anyway, why doing such a maneuvre? What is intented to achieve? You are just fighting the addictional resistence opposed by friction when stretching your twisted penis, don’t agree?

Originally Posted by marinera
Perhaps because there aren’t so many people doing twisting jelqs? Jelqs are done in erect or semi-erect state and anyone with a grain of common sense will understand that it’s not a good idea to twist your penis while inflated.

Twisting stretches are called bundles stretches, I think; years ago they were popular, but not anymore, since they were pretty much ineffective.

The degree of dangerousity of bundle stretches is lower, since the penis is flaccid, but still it’s not a good idea to twist vessels, IMHO; and anyway, why doing such a maneuvre? What is intented to achieve? You are just fighting the addictional resistence opposed by friction when stretching your twisted penis, don’t agree?

I agree 100% marinera.You are just begging for the worst.


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Perhaps you’re right, perhaps it’s because there aren’t many people doing twisting jelqs? There again perhaps you’re wrong, perhaps there’s twice as many now than there’s ever been? Who knows; I haven’t done a survey, have you? What I do know is that not everyone practising PE belongs to thunders, much less can join! And another certainty is I’m not interested in perhaps or scare mongering. Nor do I see the point in responding further to your arguments that are so full of potholes it’s a wonder you haven’t disappeared down one.

With regard to why I’m doing it; as stated in my OP, which you obviously haven’t read properly, it’s because I see merit in it and it shows promise. As for the twisting jelqs, I haven’t tried them yet and won’t form an opinion till I do. Have you got that?

No. Voluntarily crushing my car neither, or attaching a cow to my penis. Sometimes you don’t need a survey to understand that a given thing is a stupid thing to do, if you get what I mean. Twisting an erect or semi-erect penis is a stupid thing to do.

It’s a sure sign someone has lost it when thy start hurling abuse and insults, no common sense, stupid, I wonder what I’ll be next? Even more of a sign is when they imaging stuff I haven’t even written, where do I mention cows or erections - semi or otherwise?

Jelqing is normally done in erect or semi-erect state, correct?

And doing something that looks ineffective and highly dangerous, like twisting your erect penis, is a stupid thing to do or what?

This thread has risen from the grave! If you decide to try this excersize, go easy…that is all.


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I cannot imagine someone jelqing with his penis twisted, but the idea sounds interesting for injuries or whatsoever. Anyway as long as the results are shared and all the warnings are given…

The real question is, would twisting while semi-erect(for twisted jelqs) put too much stress on the nerves and blood vessels of the shaft? Some of them are pretty superficial, and thus twisting will put a lot of strain on them, particularly if they are in a pre-stretched state due to the semi-erection.

Who knows, perhaps they are extremely resistant to stretching; they are creating their networks through a highly expandable object after all.


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I’m sure we’re all well aware of the myth surrounding jelqing, just like Hebrew mythology, it’s a movable feast and gets adapt to suit individual needs. For those working on girth it’s best to have a certain amount of engorgement. While some guys stick to the 20% variation of 60 – 80% erect, which is deemed to be the optimum, I’ve heard others say they jelq with a full erection and some without? It’s a contentious issue and has raised many debates. There are variations too in the way the stroke is applied: either a straightforward ok grip or a reverse grip. Some use alternate hands, others grip the top of the penis, holding it steady with one hand and apply all the strokes with the other, a method required fort he twist jelq.

The general consensus is that jelqing is more suited to girth work than length and one can see the mechanics behind this; forcing blood into a confined space will cause expansion. With this process, like clamping, tumescence is visible during application, partly due to the structure of the penis and only having to contend with the tunica. However, with length work, which is my aim and what the OP reefers to, engorgement is not necessary, as it’s the stretching aspect of jelqing that’s desired. There are more ligaments to contend with in length work, which is, understandably, harder to attain and why guys are always looking for new ways to overcome the problem.

As stated previously, I sort of stumbled on the twist stretch for my length work, which I always do in a flaccid condition, and later learned that it’s been around for some time, though not popular with everyone. I however, can see the merits of “bundle stretching,” which fits in nicely with my regime, and I’ve been employing it for the past couple of weeks now. Though early days, it’s showing promise and without any detrimental side effects; I still wakeup each morning with a raging woody, fuck without the aid of crutches or splints and can piss without it falling off! I’ve tried the twist jelq, flaccid of course, but normally practice two-handed jelqing and find it a bit alien. I may have to refine it in some way to feel comfortable with it while getting the best from it, or if unable to, give it up altogether. Only time will tell.

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