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A depressed non-gainer in Europe

A depressed non-gainer in Europe

I don’t know how to begin this post. Althought my post count is below 1000, it seems as though I’ve posted about 5000 and read about a million. PE is my obsession, PE is my life - but the worst part about it is that gains just don’t seem to come.

Sure, people can look at my progress log and find that I’ve gained about 1.1 cm in BPEL. But what they’ll also find is that I’ve gained nothing in NPBL and nothing in girth. My flaccid looks like a fuckin Christmas tree lightbulb. As I write this post, I am in Europe with a couple friends “living it up”. I am not homosexual, but all I am focused on is penis. I want my to be huge and I want it now. I see guys on the beach and all I see is them wearing speedos and have huge flaccid hangs. Of all the effort I’ve put in, I feel I deserve it. I keep starring at my baby flaccid cock and with every Newbie post of newbie gains, my anger and depression grows.

I have 3 best friends in my life. Each one of them are awesome when it comes to picking up chicks and banging. When it comes to personality, I have them beat hands down. The only reason they get more pussy than me is that I actively do not try to pick up chicks because I am self conscious about my cock. I am 25, have had sex only once when I was 18 and way to drunk to remember, and now hate my life. When I found PE, I thought I found the Holy fuckin Grail to life. I thought I would be reborn again. All I ever wanted was to be 7 x 5. Anyone with those measurements should be so lucky.

I know, I know. I’ve read the posts on how each woman loves or can handle different size cocks. Some like em big, some small. Well, you know what, I think that’s bullshit. I think all woman love average or big cocks, regardless whether they can take it all or not.

I’m on the beach for 6 hours a day and all can focus my attention on are the guys wearing the speedos who have crazy flaccid hangs and huge balls. Because of porn, I’ve become desenitized to naked chicks, so the topless girls at the beach do nothing for me.

You know what I hate the most though? It’s NOT that I’ve been PEing for 2 years hardly any gains to show for it. It’s not that I’ve tried every routine or PE exercise known to man and still have the same 6” BPL x 4.25” baby cock that I started out with. It’s the fact that my friends probably have normal 6 x 5 cocks, are getting more pussy than I ever will and I’m writing this depressing post at an Internet cafe while my friends bang chicks my hotel room. I know….sad. Depressing. What do you want me to say.

I”ve talked with remek a couple of times and he gives me some encouragement to go out and get my dick wet. I appreciate your words, but honestly, they seem to fly off my shoulder and don’t really seem to stick. I’m really selfconscious about my cock. So selfconscious to the point that if a girl is actually interested in me, I’ll find a way to sabotage the rendez-vous so I won’t have to go back to the hotel and make-out so she won’t have the chance to see my small cock. That is how fucked up I am. I am supposed to be having the time of my life. My friends have banged 3 chicks each without even trying, and I made-out with 1 chick for a total of 1.5 minutes.

I’ve jerked off only 5 times in the past 45 days and have about 4 weeks left on my trip. I tried dry jelqing for a bit every other day, but it actually gave me some negative PIs so I stopped doing that.

Sorry for the long post, but I’m drunk, depressed, tired and lonely. I feel as though I’m the only person in the world that feels the way I do. Thunders is the only place in the world where I feel I could express the way I feel. So I did.

Replies, suggestions on routines, comments (both negative and positive) are welcome. Maybe I just need a good ass kicking.

I won’t be able to check the internet for a while, so don’t be offended if I don’t reply back right away.


The aim of life is self-development. To realize one's nature perfectly - that is what each of us is here for.

~Oscar Wilde~

I am sorry for the way you feel. I know there’s probably nothing that can make you feel better, except to know that many of us have felt the same way before. At 6” in length, you are actually a bit longer than average. From everything I read (which is quite a bit) on the subject, there are less than 20% of women that really care anything at all about penis size. We (men) are much more obsessed than they are. I just read an article that says that over 50% of men think that they are undersized, which is, of course not true. It is the bombardment of porn, media, etc that makes us think otherwise. Like many things in this world, it is simply “smoke and mirrors”, that is, simply not true. You are more than adequate in the size department. I am not advocating that you go out and have a lot of mindless sex with women you don’t know. I was once young, though and chased everything without a dick. However, I’ve been married for many years and believe that a committed relationship is far more satisfying than the other types. But I’m not going to go there, as that is not the purpose of my reply. It is only to reassure you that you are fine.

As far as the flaccids go, I am around 7” in length x 7.5” girth. Larger than average, right? You could have never convinced me of that years ago, because most of my buddies appeared to be so much bigger than me soft. I’m only about 3.5-4” flaccid usually. Well, years later I find out I’m actually a bit larger than average especially in the girth dept. You could have never convinced me of that in my teens and early 20’s. Soft does’nt always equate to what you really have. Good luck.

I started PE when I was 16. I am now 40 and have gained almost and inch in length and girth.


Don’t give up.


quik4life, you have to take some chances with your dick. You always played it very very safe, and never devoted enough time and enough consistency to PE. People spend ours working out their unit, wear uncomfortable ADS for the whole day, and other almost crazy stuff.
First I don’t think you believe PE works, therefore you have no real motivation/enthusiasm, of course you want a bigger dick, but that’s not enough, you have to believe.
Do this little experiment: clamp with one,two.. many clamps if need it, for 10-15 min. Make it expand, half an inch (in girth). See how your unit will be with an added half an inch, feel it for yourself.I think this will motivate you to work harder.

kcee, I think you measure that girth around your leg, and you say you are flaccid ? What about erect ? I think you go easier over 9” in girth ? Am I right ? Stop bragging, you are not reassuring anyone.

Goal: more consistency, some self-confidence from this area

Stats: BPEL: ?

Mate, I think you have installed a belief that a larger cock is a precondition which has to be met before you can do anything significant in your life. This is a limiting belief. You need to shatter that belief and break up and interrupt the stuck patterns of your life. You have got nothing to lose by trying something different. If you keep doing the same patterns, you will get the same results. Look at that limiting belief and how silly it is. Plenty of guys with small dicks are hugely successful and have happy relationships, and you haven’t even got a small dick. You have 6”. Plenty of guys in this forum have happy marriages and businesses, and come to PE for something extra. You are treating PE as all or nothing. It’s not, it can’t be. Challenge that belief, look how ludicrous it is. Are you going to hold up your whole life for the sake of a couple of ounces of skin?

I seriously recommend you get some counselling. Personally I would avoid the endless talk of mainstream psychologists. NLP practitioners are very good at brief therapy and getting fast results. There are many of them in the USA. I have used NLP to drop excessive anxiety in the past and the effect was immediate. NLP is also very good at dealing with limiting beliefs. You might even need a holiday from PE to get it in perspective, but I’ll leave that to you to work out. If you haven’t had any results in the last 6 months, a 6 month holiday is not really going to set you back.

Hey Braingasm whats NLP ? Good advice on the holiday idea.. Decondition that tired dick.

I also agree with the self limiting belief part. If you believe you have to be a certain size to achieve something you are setting yourself up to fail. You have 6 inches man thats heaps.. If all else fails, maybe tell yourself your not going to have sex in europe and thats no problem, your going to focus on having a brilliant time however.. Whatever it takes. Just have fun, try and be positive.

FUTURE - - nbp 7.5" x 5.75 =Success

My suggestion: Stop PE 3 months. go do something else with you’re life. PE is supposed to enhance your life, not be your life. I come from Asia, and I can honestly say I know a ton of people with a LOT smaller penises than you that get laid a plenty. I mean, goddamn it, I know this dude that ONLY goes for white girls and he’s pure Asian. (He gets more ass in a month than I do in my entire life). Don’t you go complaining about having a small penis.

My suggestion for PE once you come back to it: In my opinion, it is crucial to do your exercises while in the mindset of “I’m trying to enlarge my penis”. When you’re doing manual stretches, you have to think to yourself “I’m trying to lengthen my penis” When you do so, pull harder on your penis until you feel you are putting enough effort so that you are actually lengthening your penis instead of giving it a happy tug.

The same goes for jelqing also.

Starting Stats: 7 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG (April 14, 2010)

Current Stats: 7 BPEL x 5.8125 MSEG

What really do you have to lose?? Think about that for 2 sec!

Go outside and have fun that’s it!!!

Just do it.

Goal: done, in peace with what I have

Less is more.

Originally Posted by FoxMarrine

kcee, I think you measure that girth around your leg, and you say you are flaccid ? What about erect ? I think you go easier over 9” in girth ? Am I right ? Stop bragging, you are not reassuring anyone.

I meant that I am erect 7.5” girth, not erect. There are pictures in the member’s section. I’m not trying to brag. I was only illustratiing that I am very average flaccid and for many years thought I was small.

Dont give up


Dont give up in any way. Try ADS (Fowfers) its very usefull and effective.

Hello, quik4life! Long time no hear.

I understand your frustration. I think that you need to change focus. Try focusing on other things in life but keep PEing. I would imagine that wearing a extender along with some manual exercises could be a PE-method that you could maintain for many months and get accustomed to. Also, I normally do not advocate this but forget about measuring. Just do your manual routine in the morning, put your extender on and wear it all day every day, just like you get up in the morning and put your socks on…Well, actually you have to do some measuring to keep progressing with the tension on the extender but you understand what I mean…Do not measure BPEL every other day to look for gains.

Obsessing about things usually leads to frustration in my experience. Make it a habit. Most people that follow this kind of routine state that not wearing the extender feels almost un-natural after a while. I would have tried to follow the method that gerrkjohnson described in his static stretching thread, low tension for many hours every day. Most people speculate that doing some other form of PE prior or in addition to the extender work will increase the chances of gains.

I am going to do this my self soon and I plan to invite anyone to join me to help gather data.

Try to enjoy your vacation now man! Seriously! Think back to when you were a kid. Before you started to worry about your penis. Try to remember what you cared about back then, what made you happy, what your favourite activities were, what your typical day consisted of. You did not need PE back then and you do not need it now. Make PE a hobby, not your life!

Also, I have not gained in a long time but I am not worried. I know that I will never stop until I reach my goal of 21,5cm BPEL. Might take me the rest of my life but that does not matter, it is just a hobby. If I get gains, excellent! Then I am that much closer to my goal! If I do not get gains, no problem, my penis is super healthy and I can get an erection just by thinking of something I just did with my girl! Like the quote; “I have not failed, I have just found 10 000 ways that did not work”, try smiling my friend! Find something that makes you happy and share it with your friends!

Happy Holiday!

Maybe—this is just a maybe—the more I repeat, the more it will sink in :)

Quick, you’re a lot like me. A hard learner. Real hard. Perhaps that’s why I continually try to offer you advice… because I can relate. In any event:

When you look at your life in 10, 20, and even 60 years from now, don’t you want to be able to say to yourself: I had the guts to have sex. I didn't let fears control my decesions. I wasn't afraid. You only get one life. Once chance.


You’re in Europe right now, and this moment will pass. And the next year will pass. And the year after that will pass… until one day you’re lying on your death bed with nothing but your memories. Do you want those memories to be filled with depression, anxiety, and turmoil—all for what? Nothing. Penis size is clearly somewhat important to some women, but it’s not nearly as important as you make it out to be!

Would you pass up a perfect beautiful women, or a night with a great European woman, just because she had A-cup breasts? I bet 90 percent of the guys here would say no—even if breasts are the most important aspect to them. And I’m talking about men here—the “pigs” of our race (no offenese guys ;) )…. women are generally much more compassionate.

Most women, especially women your age, can get off on a small penis with no problem. They also have no problem falling in love with a guy with a small penis. I kid you not. Do a poll here: How many guys with your stats have a steady girlfriend, or have gotten a woman off—I bet it’s the majority.

Hopefully this doesn’t fall on dead ears again—but forget about PE for now. Your dick needs a break. At least 4 months. At. The. Very. Least. If it were me, I’d take 6 months to a year off and read up on the PUA community. IMO, your penis is probably so conditioned that it can’t gain. And even if it’s not, your mind needs a break from PE more than anything. It’s messing with your head. Your time would be better spent honing your confidence with women.

You only have once chance at this game of life, quick. Go use it. Go live. Go love. Go lust.

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"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Guys said all the deal.Focus on other things,find new hobby.Try NLP.Maybe spend some money on sluts.Your mind is used to deal with porno and you are getting excited from viewing porno,not from real woman.

Yeah quit porn for a long time too.. It’s shit man.. Big unrealistic dicks there.

FUTURE - - nbp 7.5" x 5.75 =Success

Learn how to be a great lover…then you won’t need a big dick.


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