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Originally Posted by 8 x 8

…but I am somewhat certain that most if not all of the benefits of doing so can be had, with full orgasms…

I have a small gripe with the term ‘full orgasm’. This suggests that without ejaculating you don’t have a real or complete orgasm. The truth is that the orgasms I have without ejaculating are 5x more powerful than the ones I used to experience before practicing ejaculation control. The few moments while ejaculate is exiting the penis are very exciting for some guys, but to me that is awfully boring. I’d rather have both of our bodies vibrating with pleasure!


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Originally Posted by matutinal_euphony
The few moments while ejaculate is exiting the penis are very exciting for some guys, but to me that is awfully boring. I’d rather have both of our bodies vibrating with pleasure!

Sounds like something I want to experience. You gained it simply through ejaculation control?

Originally Posted by matutinal_euphony
I have a small gripe with the term ‘full orgasm’. This suggests that without ejaculating you don’t have a real or complete orgasm. The truth is that the orgasms I have without ejaculating are 5x more powerful than the ones I used to experience before practicing ejaculation control. The few moments while ejaculate is exiting the penis are very exciting for some guys, but to me that is awfully boring. I’d rather have both of our bodies vibrating with pleasure!

Can you explain this in more detail? How does one practice to have an orgasm without the need for ejaculation?


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This looks like it might be an interesting article: .


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Originally Posted by persian
Looks like your the one having temper issue with your long post to defend yourself. You’re still falsley assuming that I made a grammatical error, which if you read carefully you will notice the comma seperating “thousands of people” and “over years and years”. It’s just basic english that they teach you in America, as you say.

Not a temper issue. I just think the attitude in your comment was a little uncalled for. It was a simple joke and you were so offended.

Originally Posted by matutinal_euphony
I have a small gripe with the term ‘full orgasm’. This suggests that without ejaculating you don’t have a real or complete orgasm. The truth is that the orgasms I have without ejaculating are 5x more powerful than the ones I used to experience before practicing ejaculation control. The few moments while ejaculate is exiting the penis are very exciting for some guys, but to me that is awfully boring. I’d rather have both of our bodies vibrating with pleasure!

It sounds as if you are saying you can’t have both; that if you ejaculate that’s all you get: sperm coming out of your penis. I’m sure a lot of other guys on here will agree when I say that, at least for me, orgasm with ejaculation ( and I’ve experienced the other type even as multi-orgasm) is an extremely powerful, full body experience that can leave you feeling light headed.

Originally Posted by skeebo
Can you explain this in more detail? How does one practice to have an orgasm without the need for ejaculation?

I recentlyt began experiencing them. My present GF is not on the pill. I have always been able to shut off my penis, for lack of a better term, during sex to keep from cumming. My “seal” is so tight no precum even comes out, until I release it. Now that I am with a chick that I have to worry about getting pregnant, I find it difficult or even impossible to relax my seal to orgasm during sexual activity with her. That includes oral and her giving me a hand job. It’s been a cumulative thing. At first, it wasn’t like that. It was only during sex that I could not relax with her. The first time she gave me head I blew one hell of a load. I covered my head with a pillow and her dorm mate still heard me when I came. She’s quite good.

Anyhow, the first time it happened she was giving me head and determined to make me cum. She gave me head for two hours and I tried to relax to cum but couldn’t. But about one hour into it a funny thing happened. I felt really close to cumming. I couldn’t and it kept getting more intense and insistent…almost unbearable. Then it happened. It felt like I experienced release, like orgasm, but the wave of feeling didn’t go out of me at all, it reversed and swept back up my body to my head. After that, I remained in a state of rise and fall for the next hour. Tipping over that threshhold and back over and over. I never did ejaculate. She felt dejected, like she’d failed to please me, even though I tried to explain what happened. I think she thinks I was just saying it to make her feel better. It’s happened a few times since then. Always under the same type of circumstance: she’s giving me head. I know in my head that it’s safe to cum. I can’t seem to allow myself to release. I reach a point of tension far beyond that which normally causes an orgasm ( if that’s what I’m aiming for). Then pop! It releases but instead of the energy flowing out through my sex chakra, it reverses and washes back up over my body to my head.

Before trying it out, you need to read up on it. There can be serious side effects for guys who get addicted to this type of orgasm. Energy, like water, needs to come and go. It has to flow in and out of you. If you damn it up and never release it, it can be a bad thing. That is what the Rune Poems are talking about when they talk about the rune “Fehu”. To paraphrase:

“Fehu is a confort to everybody although ever man ought to deal it out freely…(it) is the cause of strife amongst kinsmen …the wolf grows up in the woods… and (it is) the fire of the floodtide, and the path of the serpent”

The direct sybolism here is that rune’s submeaning of mobile wealth. In the poems that is money which is, itself, but a symbol of value. Cattle originally were the basis for judging monetary value of things before the Germanics adopted the use of gold. And cattle symbolize the energy of life ( obviously since you eat them) which must be taken in and released and spread around by all things if the cycle of life is to continue. As Tool says;”This is necessary. Life feeds on life.” Thus the fire of the floodtide is a reference to Andavari’s gold but also to Haminja ( the Japanese call it Ki), which is the energy of life.

Anyhow, look up “kundalini” .

Originally Posted by devilknight666
Anyhow, the first time it happened she was giving me head and determined to make me cum. She gave me head for two hours and I tried to relax to cum but couldn’t. But about one hour into it a funny thing happened. I felt really close to cumming. I couldn’t and it kept getting more intense and insistent…almost unbearable. Then it happened. It felt like I experienced release, like orgasm, but the wave of feeling didn’t go out of me at all, it reversed and swept back up my body to my head. After that, I remained in a state of rise and fall for the next hour. Tipping over that threshhold and back over and over. I never did ejaculate. She felt dejected, like she’d failed to please me, even though I tried to explain what happened. I think she thinks I was just saying it to make her feel better. It’s happened a few times since then. Always under the same type of circumstance: she’s giving me head. I know in my head that it’s safe to cum. I can’t seem to allow myself to release. I reach a point of tension far beyond that which normally causes an orgasm ( if that’s what I’m aiming for). Then pop! It releases but instead of the energy flowing out through my sex chakra, it reverses and washes back up over my body to my head.

Anyhow, look up “kundalini” .

Werner Ashford, another “more experienced” member here has some very detailed threads/posts in his “Edging/Ballooning” thread. I think he understands the “kundalini”.

Shit, I might just google it right now. I edge quite well, and have almost had successive orgasms WITH ejaculation, but not yet. Maybe Kundalini might be the secret?????


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Originally Posted by Acid Jazz
Werner Ashford, another “more experienced” member here has some very detailed threads/posts in his “Edging/Ballooning” thread. I think he understands the “kundalini”.

Shit, I might just google it right now. I edge quite well, and have almost had successive orgasms WITH ejaculation, but not yet. Maybe Kundalini might be the secret?????

Like I said, I didn’t set out to do it and, personally, although it is intense, I’d not trade my normal orgasms for it. However ( run on sentences aside), many men who do those types of orgasms claim they are far better, but educate yourself properly before rushing in and taking the bull by the horns. Good luck and happy hunting.

Originally Posted by devilknight666
Like I said, I didn’t set out to do it and, personally, although it is intense, I’d not trade my normal orgasms for it. However ( run on sentences aside), many men who do those types of orgasms claim they are far better, but educate yourself properly before rushing in and taking the bull by the horns. Good luck and happy hunting.

Oh, I see. You “happened” upon this skill? Crap, you’re a better man than I.

I can say, however, that it IS important for guys that edge a lot, and ultimately Male Multiple Orgasm, (MMO), or learn how to have “dry orgasms”, to exercise right away after a session. I don’t recall why, except that I know from personal experience, that If I don’t, I get one hell of a headache…. :(


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Thanks guys for the info. I may look into it in the near future after reading up on it.


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matutinal_euphony is relating something that is covered in a few different techniques.

I’d agree that the full-body orgasm is a hell of a lot more ‘complete’ than simple ejaculation.

Mantak Chia has a few books on this subject and they are based on Taoist techniques for developing and harnessing sexual energy and sexual power.

The Multi-Orgasmic Man is a good step-by-step book.

However, there are threads on edging and ballooning here that have information on how to get similar results with somewhat different methods.

I think all of these are at least worth looking into. Be warned, though, they all deal with an element of so-called ‘energy-work’ which some people find a little whoo-whoo.

I have practiced the Taoist stuff (in fact it was The Multi-Orgasmic Man that started me on my journey, which ultimately led here) and I can say that it does work, but you need to practice. :leftie:

So it’s a good place to start, in my opinion.


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Ejaculation and growing

I read from matutinal_euphonys post -10 Tips for PE- that it’s a simple fact that ejaculation releases prolactin which signals your body to stop fueling your cock.

Maybe there is a thread from this issue already but I havent seen it. So, does this basically mean that the more you ejaculate the more you harm your penises growing because of PE? Is there some link where there is scientific facts that ejaculation stops fueling the penis, and if thats so, how long period it stops fueling penis?

I have masturbated and ejaculated since I was 5 years old, I masturbated without knowing what I was doing, it just felt good and I had orgasms. Still my penis is about normal size without PE.


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Originally Posted by Aftershock

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I have masturbated and ejaculated since I was 5 years old, I masturbated without knowing what I was doing, it just felt good and I had orgasms. Still my penis is about normal size without PE.

I think this alone answer your question. :)

I think it’s very important to have the reigns over your ejaculate. One interesting aspect is that women will practically worship you if they cannot make you ejaculate (ie. deflate your manhood). That isn’t exactly what motivates me, but it might be an interesting idea for someone out there to entertain. With all of that said, it is true that you can build up a level of sexual energy that is burdensome. At that point it is very easy to release…


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