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1 Month 1/4" Length & 1/8" Girth Challenge

I managed to do this already. Not to brag or anything, I gained 1/2” in length in 3 weeks. I never measured my girth though because I was too focused on my length. I guess I was just a fast gainer but mgus is totally right. This challenge is also a good way to push yourself too hard like what happened to me. Because of my fast gains, I got over zealous and over-trained my unit. The result; a numb penis. That’s what you get when you get careless. I learned my lesson now and I will take things slowly the next time. Slowly but surely guys, remember that. But of course, if your not a newbie anymore then that would be an entirely different story.

I accept the challenge.


November 08: BPEL = 6.2

August 09: BPEL = 7.0

When you lot are showing up in the injuries forum don’t say you weren’t warned.

This is a retarded idea. Sorry, HardbodyPEer, but someone’s got to tell you the truth.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
Thanks, you are right that gains come when they come, but if you make a theoretically possible, but obviously difficult goal, it tends to help drive your workout intensity when jelqing, how firm you hold those stretches, not cutting out a minute or two early on a hanging set, getting in an extra Kegel during a clamping routine, and I think all these are good things, to help push the envelope.

The idea of “pushing the envelope” is just plain wrong for PE. I thoroughly reject it.

What works in PE, more than anything, is consistent work that is done for its own sake on an ongoing basis. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

What you suggest works well for a weightlifter, or some such. This is not the approach to take with PE. For PE to be most successful what you must do is work with your body, not beat it into submission.

Originally Posted by flamonay
Yeh I growin bigger haha so just to clarify does it work the same way with normal muscle (muscle tear and all that) thx


No. Not even close. The penis is not a muscle. And by the way, have a look at the Forum Guidelines. Thunder would appreciate it if we try to use standard English on his forum.

To answer your question, flamonay: the paradigm is physical therapy, not power lifting.

Think about orthodontics, for example. While you could go in an knock out all your teeth and then replace them the way you want, no one does this. What they do instead is put consistent, incremental pressure on the problem areas and slowly adjust them into place. This is because the practice is about redirecting living tissue that still has to function while the changes are induced.

It’s very different from the ‘tear down and build up’ paradigm that works well for body-building.

The penis is a very durable organ, and it can withstand a fair amount of punishment truth be told. It’s part of the design. But if you give yourself unrealistic goals, and a deadline for meeting them, you are just plain asking for trouble.

And you are asking a lot of other new members to sign on to this. It’s irresponsible.

Newbies should be doing the Newbie Routine, not as hard as they can, not putting excessive force into their stretching and jelqing practices, but instead learning how much force to use, and seeing what works for them and what doesn’t. Figuring out what a good PI (Physiological Indicator) is, and what a bad one is.

This sort of goal is most likely to be successful in giving folks a crash course on negative PI’s.

A much better challenge would be to get folks to commit, solidly, to the Newbie Routine, and to be as disciplined as possible, not missing any days except for the scheduled breaks.

Start a PE journal, and post it here, of your experience with your routine, specifically noting responses to the exercises; so you bring some analytical intelligence to bear on the practice:

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Did 200 jelqs today, medium pressure. Afterward noticed that my flaccid was hanging heavy. Morning wood has improved.

Morning wood was good again today. I Did 250 jelqs, heavier pressure. Flaccid was heavier at first, but went down after the 20 minutes. Dick seems less responsive.

And so on.

By working this way, each person learns what works for them, the log helps to reinforce the commitment and focus the practices on discovering precisely how much of what works for them. They are not bound to scurry after some specific measurement and feel like they’ve failed if they don’t get there.

I think your experiment is well-intentioned but deeply flawed. I’m not entirely alone in my views:

marinera - 1 Month 1/4” Length & 1/8” Girth Challenge
mgus - 1 Month 1/4” Length & 1/8” Girth Challenge
Luka89 - 1 Month 1/4” Length & 1/8” Girth Challenge
kooljohn - 1 Month 1/4” Length & 1/8” Girth Challenge

I urge you, all of you, to reconsider.

It’s fine to refocus your efforts, and intensify your commitment to your strategy; pounding the hell out of your dick until it grows? Not so much.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

Mr. Happy,

Just to let you know, I don’t think “retarded” is what you wanted to say. Some what inappropriate wouldn’t you say?

As for what you are saying I agree. However, I think you are misunderstanding at least my intentions this month. I am just concentrating more and trying to be more consistent than in past months. I am not intensifying my routine.

You are indeed correct, sir. It was a gut reaction. I use strong language sometimes to get my point across.

I apologize for the ‘retarded’ remark; I did not intend to offend, but rather focus attention.

What I meant to say was “deeply misguided” or maybe “so silly a caveman would do this.” (:

I think the idea of re-committing is fine, but this challenge is predicated on achieving a specific result, and that is highly misleading - particularly for Newbies, who are more prone to injury in the first place. They’re learning after all.

Perhaps I was being over-protective, but I really do hate this idea.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

I’m really just breaking your balls a bit. I have often used “retarded” in similar ways. However, I have a friend who has a severely retarded brother. You can imagine the first time I used the word inappropriately while drunk…

In retrospect it wasn’t my place to call you out on it as it makes me a hypocrite. Then again, I guess everyone is a hypocrite.

I appreciate your concern for the PE communities health/safety, it says a lot about this forum.

I worked at a state hospital one summer (way back when states still had money for such things) and had to care for a variety of folks who were at different levels of retardation.

That said I also come from a part of the country where ‘retarded’ is in heavy rotation as an adjective for just about everything. So I guess I compartmentalize between the real deal and the slang.

Probably not PC, but who can keep track all the time?

Anyway, you’re okay by me mmmk.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
this is more of a mental commitment than anything, I'm certainly not condoning people to drastically change their routines. Maybe slightly up the intensity and duration a little, but nothing major.

Mr. Happy, before you go blabbing on about someone being “retarded”, why don’t you try reading the thread first. Essentially what I was trying to say was, if your feeling lazy, focus, don’t have a half ass workout, don’t miss any workouts, make sure you get it in. In the month of March, I was guilty of missing workouts here and there. Not missing workouts, not half assing it is what the challenge is all about. Not once did I ever advocate increasing sets, adding routines, adding time, adding weight, etc., but if course if you actually read my posts, you’d realize that instead of making yourself look silly.

I’d ask for an apology for calling me “retarded”, but I already know your too pompous to ever do that, so why bother?


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
I think the idea of re-committing is fine, but this challenge is predicated on achieving a specific result, and that is highly misleading - particularly for Newbies, who are more prone to injury in the first place. They’re learning after all.

It’s something to aim for, I’ve admitted I could very well fall short, but having a short term goal in mind is a great way to stay focused. You’re obviously late to the thread, try going back and reading, you should come to a much different conclusion.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
Mr. Happy, before you go blabbing on about someone being “retarded”, why don’t you try reading the thread first. ……..

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
When you lot are showing up in the injuries forum don’t say you weren’t warned.

This is a retarded idea. Sorry, HardbodyPEer, but someone’s got to tell you the truth.
………

It’s the idea that is wrong, it’s not you. The term ‘retarded’ was not kind, and Mr. Happy has apolologized for that, but the point here is : he’s trying to avoid an injury to you. I think he has read the whole thread, and got the right idea of what you are trying to do. The same idea that at least other three vets have understood in the same way.

I think the problem here is that you haven’t really understood how this process called PE works. Our job, as mods, is to avoid injuries to members, at cost to sound paternalistic. We have done that, we’ll get along. Do the hell you want: after all, is your penis and your time.

I’ll only add, Mr. PEer that I will feel free to “go blabbing” anywhere I want, retarded though that may seem. :leftie:

FYI: marinera is correct. I’ve been following this thread since the start. If you had read my post as carefully as I’ve read this thread it would be obvious to you.

Originally Posted by marinera
the point here is: he’s trying to avoid an injury to you.


Not just to Mr. PEer, but everyone. Let’s not forget this thread is posted in The Newbie Forum. `:-)

I fully agree that re-committing and re-focusing can be necessary, particularly for Senior Members who may have stalled in their progress and, as a result, their routine. You may well believe that this challenge is primarily about not missing workouts, and not half-assing one’s routine, but you have set very specific goals in this challenge’s title, which does tend to lead people down the garden path. As I said, I think your experiment is well-intentioned but deeply flawed.

You did catch the well intentioned part, right?

Originally Posted by marinera
I think the problem here is that you haven’t really understood how this process called PE works. Our job, as mods, is to avoid injuries to members


Exactly.

Further, how we frame our goals has a direct impact on how we go about achieving them.

Let’s all look at this post, shall we? : HardbodyPEer - 1 Month 1/4” Length & 1/8” Girth Challenge

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drive your workout intensity when jelqing, how firm you hold those stretches, not cutting out a minute or two early on a hanging set, getting in an extra kegal during a clamping routine, and I think all these are good things, to help push the envelope


These words strongly suggests a body-building mentality applied to PE. It is a mistaken premise. We don’t want to “push the envelope.” Time and again that has been shown to lead to injury. Goals should not push people to go just one extra step. We should take only the steps we need and stay within the bounds of safety.

What is needed is to use stress as a physical therapist does: to approach the limits of stress but stay safely away from exceeding them: encourage growth, don’t push the envelope.

As marinera has said, folks are free to do what they want and as they think best. I wish everyone luck.

You’re okay by me Hardbody, it’s the way you have communicated your idea that I have trouble with.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

I have to say something here.

First of all, when he said “push the envelope” I don’t think he meant take one step forward, but rather don’t miss the last step. Maybe the term itself sounds but you need to read the all post to get the all picture.

It is nice that you care about people getting an injury from it, but I believe we are all adults that can make our own decisions. If this isn’t you’r cup of tea, I think it’s best for you to just say, do what ever you like, just remember that for more gains it doesn’t mean to kill your dick.

I must say I don’t remember all the posts here, but I don’t think it been said that to pass the challenge you need to PE 8 hours a day 7 days a week, he said put your mind into it and focus on it, I read alot of posts saying that and got good comments, probably just the chosen words sound for some a bit much.

For me personaly, my first month I gained somewhere close to that length, to other 2 months not that much, so basically in my mind I always had that 1/4’ length goal per month myself, it isn’t that bad of a thing to have IMO.


Last edited by E man : 04-17-2009 at .

E man,

First off Forum Guidelines.

Even if English isn’t your best language, a simple spell check would take care of a lot of the problems in your post - and there are a lot. You have been warned before. You won’t get many more.

Next. I’d like to point out that there is no way I can “take control” of anything that people do as they move toward their goals.

I do not believe my obligation to warn Newbies is small; there is potential for people to really hurt themselves with this stuff. I’m glad you feel you ‘get’ HardbodyPEer’s real meaning. I hope it works for you. I’m just making sure we clarify what we’re all talking about.

I’ll say it again: how we frame our goals has a direct impact on how we go about achieving them.

Everyone is, of course, free to use their best judgment.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

Originally Posted by E man
I have to say something here.

First of all, when he said “push the envelope” I don’t think he meant take one step forward, but rather don’t miss the last step. Maybe the term itself sounds but you need to read the all post to get the all picture.

It is nice that you care about people getting an injury from it, but I believe we are all adults that can make our own decisions. If this isn’t you’r cup of tea, I think it’s best for you to just say, do what ever you like, just remember that for more gains it doesn’t mean to kill your dick.

I must say I don’t remember all the posts here, but I don’t think it been said that to pass the challenge you need to PE 8 hours a day 7 days a week, he said put your mind into it and focus on it, I read alot of posts saying that and got good comments, probably just the chosen words sound for some a bit much.

For me personaly, my first month I gained somewhere close to that length, to other 2 months not that much, so basically in my mind I always had that 1/4’ length goal per month myself, it isn’t that bad of a thing to have IMO.

Thank you, that is exactly my point, don’t miss the last step, or the next step and don’t half ass it. On a side note, I experienced my first “lig pop”, I went to take a piss, did a piss pull for the hell of it and heard and felt the pop, I thought it was pretty cool, hopefully it is a good sign.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
I’ll say it again: how we frame our goals has a direct impact on how we go about achieving them.

First of, I do respect you and the rest of the moderators warnings, I certainly don’t want anyone to get the wrong idea and have them end up being injured, perhaps I could have stated things more clearly, but as I’ve went back and re-read my posts, I still don’t see how it could be completely misconstrued to mean what you earlier accused the thread of meaning.

That being said, I completely agree with the above quoted statement, which is why I decided to start the thread and set short term goals. If you have goals that are real, small, but significant in a short period of time, you are much more likely to not give up or get lazy and slack off, and push hard to achieve it. I think a major component to why people slack off and give up PE is psychology. They tell themselves I want an inch, or two or whatever it may be, then gains come slow and they give up. By setting short term goals, even if they are not achieved as quickly as you like, sets it in your mind that what you are working to achieve IS in fact obtainable, and at least for me, I’m more likely to not miss a session or half ass the session (fully focused). This is why I started the thread and I think its a valuable mindset to have.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

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