WTF why can't I gain.

That could be the problem.. As far as I know the “perfect” erection level for jelquing is around 80%.. It is hard to maintain.. I know.. But this is like the gym intensity is more important than time

I used to combine a vacuum pump for about 5 min not to high pressure and immediately jelqs.. The erection level was easy to maintain and I think the blood flow was bigger.

I may need to invest in a pump then. Any suggestions?

Don’t invest in a pump. That’s my suggestion. Learn to PE.

Why do say that, if you don’t mind me asking.

Doing 400 jelqs with a good amount in intensity would make my hands and forearms burn. Try doing less jelqs with a firmer grip. Maybe also try to use a wet cloth instead of a rice sock. I’ve used both and I get a better workout from a wet cloth.

So try something like this

10 minutes with warm cloth
10-15 stretch 1 min holds, Down, out and up.
100 firm wet jelqs, Try to do it to where your pecker is tired after the hundred. You can do more if you want, it’s just my opinion.
(optional) 10 minute warm or cool down with wet cloth.

Here, let me explain something in a way that will help you make your own routine. Stop thinking about “how many” or “how long” a workout should be. Instead of saying I’m going to do 400 jelqs, Say, I’m going to do jelqs until It’s totally pumped. Because you can do all the jelqs in the world and never gain. You have to make it grow, tell it to grow, demand it to go. Number isn’t going to do that. Numbers are used only as a tool, to help do a job.

Last piece of advice. Try stretching everyday, better if you can do it twice a day, 10-15min whatever just make it feel like you got a good stretch each time. Stretching imo should be done everyday. And do a thundersearch on edging. Edging when done right shouldn’t doing anything but make you gain and make you horned up like maddog.

My 02.

I guess that is the less is more theory? I can definitely try to do the routine you suggested. I will start today. Is this the routine you have followed at one point or do at the moment? I guess i do focus too much on the time or the number of jelqs as to the quality of jelqs. quality over quantity…

I’m not saying less is more. But like you said quality vs quantity.

I use that method for everything, at work, gym, pe. I focus on quality and outcome. Not numbers (usually).

Also consistency. To get big gains you almost have to be obsessed with the goal at hand. You want it so bad you’ll make it happen, no excuses, no missed days. If everyone thought that way, people would have 10” dicks and 20” arms, know what i mean?

Like i said stretch twice a day, warm up cloth optimal prior to stretch. Jelq with quality, and look into edging. Most folks who really got into edge saw gains.

Ok great, thanks for your help man I really appreciate your time!!!

Good luck

Sorry for the off topic: 2Big4you, according to your stats your penis has shortened 0.235 or am I reading that wrong?

Good eye, marinera. I do have it backwards I need to fix that!

*Edit: Fixed it, thanks again.

Try jelqing with a CCH3 (of which you can find the plans to make on yourself here on the board)