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Will clamping early in my PE career make it hard to make gains later?

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Will clamping early in my PE career make it hard to make gains later?

So here is my situation.

I did PE a few years ago for about 5 months doing the newbie routine with no gains. Then I started up again 7 months ago. I have done a lot of research and taken it seriously. I have gained an inch in BPEL and little to nothing in girth. I am getting frustrated because I have a PE mentor who has had me try several different girth exercises and none of them worked (jelquing, squeezes, ULI #3, bundled stretch). So now I am considering clamping but here is my main fear: that length/girth gains will be more difficult using other methods once I start clamping. Since the exercise is so intense, it may toughen my penis so when I try to gain with other exercises (length included) it will be tougher. Is this a legitimate concern? I was told I should go to clamping once I’ve exercised all of my other options and gotten all I can out of them. Regular manual exercises > irregular manual exercises > pumping > clamping. Is this good advice? I am eager to start gaining girth and this seems like clamping is the most effective way BY FAR. But I do want to think long term and I don’t want to limit my max potential gains.

I do have enough experience where I believe my penis could handle the stress of clamping. Especially if I start slow. So I am eager to hear your thoughts. Thank you.


3/18 - Started: BPEL 5", MEG 4.4375".

9/18 - Current: BPEL 6", MEG 4.5".

Short term goal: BPEL 6.5", MEG 4.75". Long term goal: BPEL 7", MEG 5".

I’m not sure about that. I kinda believe for max result person should start very-very lightly and add stress only when see no results from any similar method. Because if person makes significant trauma, then body might decide to recover it in a hurry. Something like peyronie’s disease. Or maybe needed resources would end before complete restoration. But I can’t say if it’s true or not, it’s just guess.

If you want bigger length, then you actually can ignore girth completely and return to that later. However I can’t say if that would limit your girth gain even more.


Starting : 7.6 BPEL, 5.5 MEG

Current: 8.1 BPEL, 5.7 MEG

If you have a mentor stick with their advice. He knows your situation best and sounds like he’s leading you on a sensible progression.

I think you should check tntjockey’s threads. He gained a lot with clamping early on (a matter of months after starting) to the point that he gained too much.

I have reached my goals


PhoenixNow Progress Reports | Found out my dick is not that bad (BEG 6"), now I want more !

Started August 2018: NBPEL- MEG 5" x 5" - Now: 5.5" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: NBPEL - MEG 8" x 6.5"

I’m one of the guys who thinks it’s best to focus on length first. The idea is that the thicker you are the more force is needed to get length gains. Get too thick too soon and length gains become almost impossible, because you can’t apply enough force without injury. So first get the length you want, then switch to girth exercises like clamping. You can cement your length gains while clamping.

BTW, this isn’t an idea I came up with on my own, I read it somewhere here on Thunders.

Originally Posted by FunSize
I’m one of the guys who thinks it’s best to focus on length first. The idea is that the thicker you are the more force is needed to get length gains. Get too thick too soon and length gains become almost impossible, because you can’t apply enough force without injury. So first get the length you want, then switch to girth exercises like clamping. You can cement your length gains while clamping.

BTW, this isn’t an idea I came up with on my own, I read it somewhere here on Thunders.

I had read the same here and there but it was still in the theory realm though.

What about do you personnally think about jelquing and pumping for lenght ?


PhoenixNow Progress Reports | Found out my dick is not that bad (BEG 6"), now I want more !

Started August 2018: NBPEL- MEG 5" x 5" - Now: 5.5" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: NBPEL - MEG 8" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by FunSize
I’m one of the guys who thinks it’s best to focus on length first. The idea is that the thicker you are the more force is needed to get length gains. Get too thick too soon and length gains become almost impossible, because you can’t apply enough force without injury. So first get the length you want, then switch to girth exercises like clamping. You can cement your length gains while clamping.

BTW, this isn’t an idea I came up with on my own, I read it somewhere here on Thunders.

It has been hard for me to get to a point where I can let go of girth related PE (addiction) and focus almost exclusively on lengthening exercises, but my gut (which is just my gut) tells me that length first, girth second is best practice, again, just my gut on this one. I tend to buy into the idea that less cross sectional volume equates to less longitudinal resistance.

I actually have the idea stuck in my head that I need to over shoot my length goal by some measure to compensate for possible retraction that might occur once I transition to girth work. Idea is that when expansion increases laterally, some retraction occurs longitudinally. This could be completely wrong and what I could find is that my girth work just incrementally adds to the length that I am already at.

An argument to my above thought is that increasing elasticity in the lateral direction increases potential during longitudinal work.

The answer might be somewhere in between.


Once upon a time (2015): 6.40” x 4.50”

Today: 7.25” x 4.75”

I think I can...Little Engine’s Climb

Originally Posted by FunSize
I’m one of the guys who thinks it’s best to focus on length first. The idea is that the thicker you are the more force is needed to get length gains. Get too thick too soon and length gains become almost impossible, because you can’t apply enough force without injury. So first get the length you want, then switch to girth exercises like clamping. You can cement your length gains while clamping.

BTW, this isn’t an idea I came up with on my own, I read it somewhere here on Thunders.

It has been hard for me to get to a point where I can let go of girth related PE (addiction) and focus almost exclusively on lengthening exercises, but my gut (which is just my gut) tells me that length first, girth second is best practice, again, just my gut on this one. I tend to buy into the idea that less cross sectional volume equates to less longitudinal resistance.

I actually have the idea stuck in my head that I need to over shoot my length goal by some measure to compensate for possible retraction that might occur once I transition to girth work. The idea is that when expansion increases laterally, some retraction occurs longitudinally. This could be completely wrong and what I could find is that my girth work just incrementally adds to the length that I am already at.

An argument to my above thought is that increasing elasticity in the lateral direction increases potential during longitudinal work.

The sweet spot might be somewhere in between.

So if both length and girth are the goal, initially the volume of stress should be applied through elongation exercises and periodic stresses applied laterally at some appropriate frequency, maybe once a week? Might that support total elasticity and potential for elongation?


Once upon a time (2015): 6.40” x 4.50”

Today: 7.25” x 4.75”

I think I can...Little Engine’s Climb


Last edited by LittleEngine : 10-10-2018 at .

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
It has been hard for me to get to a point where I can let go of girth related PE (addiction) and focus almost exclusively on lengthening exercises, but my gut (which is just my gut) tells me that length first, girth second is best practice, again, just my gut on this one. I tend to buy into the idea that less cross sectional volume equates to less longitudinal resistance.

I actually have the idea stuck in my head that I need to over shoot my length goal by some measure to compensate for possible retraction that might occur once I transition to girth work. The idea is that when expansion increases laterally, some retraction occurs longitudinally. This could be completely wrong and what I could find is that my girth work just incrementally adds to the length that I am already at.

An argument to my above thought is that increasing elasticity in the lateral direction increases potential during longitudinal work.

The sweet spot might be somewhere in between.

So if both length and girth are the goal, initially the volume of stress should be applied through elongation exercises and periodic stresses applied laterally at some appropriate frequency, maybe once a week? Might that support total elasticity and potential for elongation?

Brother, have you got the impression that you already reached the point of too much girth too quick (and that it will slow your gains) or you are being preventive ? I might reconsider my goals too, get my lenght and then my girth, but girth work is so fun hehe.


PhoenixNow Progress Reports | Found out my dick is not that bad (BEG 6"), now I want more !

Started August 2018: NBPEL- MEG 5" x 5" - Now: 5.5" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: NBPEL - MEG 8" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by PhoenixNow
Brother, have you got the impression that you already reached the point of too much girth too quick (and that it will slow your gains) or you are being preventive ? I might reconsider my goals too, get my lenght and then my girth, but girth work is so fun hehe.

Agreed, girth work can be a lot of fun, but ultimately requires more focus too. I find length work to be mindless and more simple, example, one can multi task while stretching. Just my take.


Once upon a time (2015): 6.40” x 4.50”

Today: 7.25” x 4.75”

I think I can...Little Engine’s Climb

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
I actually have the idea stuck in my head that I need to over shoot my length goal by some measure to compensate for possible retraction that might occur once I transition to girth work. The idea is that when expansion increases laterally, some retraction occurs longitudinally. This could be completely wrong and what I could find is that my girth work just incrementally adds to the length that I am already at.

I think the answer to what happens to length when you switch to girth focused exercises is “it depends”. I’ve looked over enough peoples stats and read enough posts here to see that some people lose length when they switch to girth work while others gain length doing exclusively clamping exercises. For me, once I reach my length goals and I switch to girth work, I’m going keep to an eye on length and if I start to lose length I will switch back to length work until I am back at my goal before returning to girth work. And if I accidentally pick up a little bonus length while focusing on girth, well that’s the kind of problem I could probably learn to live with.

Would you guys consider jelquing an hybrid or really a girth exercise ?

Also, I’m thinking I might have to buy a bib hanger soon.


PhoenixNow Progress Reports | Found out my dick is not that bad (BEG 6"), now I want more !

Started August 2018: NBPEL- MEG 5" x 5" - Now: 5.5" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: NBPEL - MEG 8" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by PhoenixNow
Would you guys consider jelquing an hybrid or really a girth exercise ?

Also, I’m thinking I might have to buy a bib hanger soon.

Jelqing is a hybrid exercise, and it’s cool because you can tune it to do what you want by controlling your erection level. Jelqing with lower erection levels (more flaccid, less hard) focuses on length gains. Higher (harder) erection levels works more on girth.

Hanging is my current primary exercise. I’m using a couple cable clamps, theraband tape, and a strip of mousepad for my hanger; it’s cheap and it works well. And it’s the same stuff I will need for clamping.

I have some thoughts few last days, but not so many conclusions.

About interesting fact. Flaccid penis doesn’t have any girth resistance. My flaccid is 5.1 and I can compress that from glans to root to get 6.5-7 inches. That’s really huge difference comparing to my erect 5.6. I see only 2 reasons for that:
1. My erect girth\length is balanced with my blood supply. Indeed when erect it becomes hard as rock, however it’s not limited by outer fascia, but amount of cavernosum.
2. Outer part is more like fishing net. You can expand in width, but then it’s going to be hard to push length. And otherwise during erection our length expansion limits girth.

Or maybe even both are correct and depends on person what is limiting factor. That would be quite good to figure out, because completely different conclusions. Gaining in something would hinder or help in opposite expansion.


Starting : 7.6 BPEL, 5.5 MEG

Current: 8.1 BPEL, 5.7 MEG

Originally Posted by FunSize
Hanging is my current primary exercise. I’m using a couple cable clamps, theraband tape, and a strip of mousepad for my hanger; it’s cheap and it works well. And it’s the same stuff I will need for clamping.

Interesting, how can you use cable clamps as a hanger ?


PhoenixNow Progress Reports | Found out my dick is not that bad (BEG 6"), now I want more !

Started August 2018: NBPEL- MEG 5" x 5" - Now: 5.5" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: NBPEL - MEG 8" x 6.5"

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