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Why so little evidence supporting PE

Originally Posted by Bdogg85
There are a bunch of admins who stand to gain from donations and other forms of remuneration claiming it works.

Wait, what? Where’s my cut?

You’ll see what you choose to see. It has more to do with you than it has to do with what’s real. Nothing on the net is irrefutable. We can’t even prove that we are human, and not a network of clever computer AI’s, or inscrutable aliens, or even a cabal of supra-intelligent cauliflowers having a joke at your expense.

You don’t need to appreciate our sarcasm, it’s not for your benefit.


“I was like, Am I gay? Am I straight? And I realized...I'm just slutty. Where's my parade? What about slut pride?”

― Margaret Cho

We hear “bigger is better” and EVERYONE thinks penis size. There is no media pressure that makes a man ashamed of being circumcised, there is however a overwhelming feeling of inadequacy in having a certain sized penis. This is obviously why people are less camera shy showing a small foreskin compared to showing a small penis.

Comparing the two as “proof” that this doesn’t work is ridiculous.

If you can’t see how weak that argument is then you need to find someone smarter to help you try and disprove this.


Keep an open mind and a closed wallet... unless it\'s open to making a donation!

Thanks for entertaining my scrutiny

A- Unit I appreciate your logical analysis of 3 to 4 %.
I guess I throw in the towel.
I mean I guess I am going to warm one up and use it for a hot wrap warm up for a little more objective, hands on scrutiny. Only one way to know for sure.

Thanks again!

P.S. I’m coming back with my data. TO BE CONTINUED.

Happy gains!

This has to be a troll, I dont think his going to stop either. But if he is real, he will find out if ot works by himself. And in that case:

Good luck on your gains:)


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I am what I say I am, I am what they think I am, I am nothing,

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Originally Posted by Bdogg85
A- Unit I appreciate your logical analysis of 3 to 4 %.
I guess I throw in the towel.
I mean I guess I am going to warm one up and use it for a hot wrap warm up for a little more objective, hands on scrutiny. Only one way to know for sure.

Thanks again!

P.S. I’m coming back with my data. TO BE CONTINUED.

Good luck, shoot for a reasonable goal and be consistent, because consistency is the key. We are all brothers and are here to help with any questions
you may have. Start with the newbie routine and go from there. This really does work, but you have to have the right mind set. Once again, good luck.

Welcome to the team, again.

I’ve been PEING on and off since I joined I’ve taken time off here and there but when I dedicated myself I went full bore. While I did make gains when I went at it hard none to this day have been permanent. I’m afraid I might be giving up PE soon, I don’t personally think anything is permanent.


3/11 - 8.25 BPEL X 6.00 EG - GOAL 9.00 BPEL x 6.50 EG.

Also, if it were all a hoax and the forum existed for donations the moderators would be deleting all dissenting opinions left and right. Threads like this one wouldn’t have made it past page one.

Notice who is donating as well; most often the guys with hundreds or thousands of posts that have been around a while.

Unless those users are all alternate accounts of site administrators just trying to look like they’ve been around a while. And this thread is only around to dispel the idea that we are trying to cover up the fact that PE doesn’t work, creating reasonable doubt but within the parameters of believability. That would be an incentive for otherwise doubtful newbies to believe so they would feel like donating.

Hmmm

This really could be the most elaborate scam ever. Oh, I see right through you now, Thunders. The more believable this gets, the more obvious of a lie it is.


Last edited by Lawman : 03-15-2013 at .

For ‘a-unit’ to say his unit is private is like saying his big toe is private. I’ve heard this argument before and it’s as lame as a bruised dick. Absolutely no one gives a shit about whether you post your dick on a public forum or not, unless you’re running for the ‘Whitehouse’ and only then if the CIA is trying to dig up some dirt. Bdogg85 has made only sensible comments on this thread and has been unfairly represented. For ‘memento’ to say just try it for yourself is not a fair remark since many many guys damage their dicks trying to find out if it’s true or not. Don’t think damaging your dick is a price worth paying just to learn that PE might be a hoax at worst or extremely difficult at best. If the great and mighty BIB had posted before and after pics, or better still, before and after video footage, even if no one else ever posted another image, that would be all the proof that Bdogg85 and everyone else would need to be convinced that PE works. Unfortunately his unit like his big toe is also private. There is no all-compelling evidence to my knowledge that PE works, but I’m going to risk it anyway. A half inch or 3/4 inch gain is not evidence, either in writing or in a photograph, for you could get more than 3/4 inch by sticking your dick in a hornets nest. BIB went from 6 inches to over 10 inches, so he claims. I hope he’s telling the truth. I’m also trying to exceed 10”. Fortunately I’m starting off with 8” BPEL, so only have to gain 2 1/2 inches to BIBs whopping 4+ inches. So if he can do it then so can I, but only if he’s telling the truth, or else I might be about to fuck my dick big time.

>For ‘memento’ to say just try it for yourself is not a fair remark since many many guys damage their dicks trying to find out if it’s true or not. <

Where’s your evidence for that?

>If the great and mighty BIB had posted before and after pics, or better still, before and after video footage, even if no one else ever posted another image, that would be all the proof that Bdogg85 and everyone else would need to be convinced that PE works. Unfortunately his unit like his big toe is also private. There is no all-compelling evidence to my knowledge that PE works, but I’m going to risk it anyway<

Time lapse? Yeah, that would work.

If you don’t want to PE, that’s your choice but this is a PE forum, so it’s what we tend to talk about here.


Thunder's Place: increasing penis size one dick at a time.

You only have to trawl through the various PE forums to read about guys complaining of minor and more serious injuries. I have sustained some injuries myself, not too serious though. The worst one was the rupturing of my frenulum. I didn’t get it reattached, since about 1 centimetre came away cleanly. That isn’t nothing, although I can now draw my foreskin back even further. Plenty of other guys can claim injuries they would rather not have had, but you carry on because you have faith there may be truth in all those claims. I sound like a religious fanatic.

No bog, you’re ok.

Stick around. We will support your efforts.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Minor injuries are par for the course. Successful PE is navigating the fine line between injuries and gains.

Maybe you should stop using your penimaster. The number of injuries I’ve read about from people ignoring the advice to use manual PE first and switching straight to extenders but then ignoring the general advice to never leave anything attached to your dick for more than 20 mins is insane. But there you go, there is good advice here and people choose to ignore it. If you insist on using a traction device, you should abide by all the safety measures hangers do (like a wrap would avoid a ripped frenulum).


Thunder's Place: increasing penis size one dick at a time.

I tore my frenulum about 20 years ago, by about 1 1/2 centimetres, using a vacuum cylinder. That ended my PE efforts until 2 months ago. The problem was due to the fact my glans gets very large when engorged. So, I’ve lost a total of 2 1/2 cm of frenulum, the last time was just 2 weeks ago. Had to lay off the PE for 5 days. I might have to tear my frenulum one last time, maybe another centimetre, then the retraction of my foreskin will be perfect. The torn skin largely shrinks after a few months, so no ugly reminder remains, except for a tiny skin tag. The penimaster pro vacuum unit is great. My helmet fits it perfectly, almost as if it was made specially for me. I can stretch up to 7kg with no discomfort. I spent 3 hrs continuously this evening with it at 6kg. I’m not using the extender bars at the moment. I attach the unit to the bed using some cord and a spring balance, and just watch the TV or read a book. It makes traction far more comfortable than the bars, since the part that goes around the base of the shaft reduces circulation and puts pressure on the scrotum.

My new frenulum terminus point is causing me no problems now, but if I were to pump again the frenulum would rupture one last time after say 30 or 40 pumping sessions. I don’t want to use a bib hanger because of circulation problems and the fact that the 2 inches of shaft below the glans is not getting any stretch. I’m trying to think up a diy attachment to use in conjunction with the vacuum unit so that the traction is shared by both, but don’t want to use a clamp since circulation would be a problem. I’m thinking of a latex sleeve that goes over the unit and down the shaft by a few inches, held in place by another vacuum. If it worked I might achieve traction of 15kg without the problems associated with the Bib hanger.


Last edited by bogtrotter : 03-16-2013 at .

Money is certainly not the reason the Mods defend this site in threads like this. We freely invest our time and effort into trying to maintain a high quality, classy site where people can experiment freely and share their results. We do not get paid, yet we do put in time that we don’t have, for the greater good of the site and it’s members, so it feels very much like as a personal attack when some dumbass with a 5 minute old membership comes along claiming it’s all fake.

For all I know or care, Bib is just a bedtime story hangers tell themselves to get to sleep at night. He was before my time and since my time here his “theory” (cough, cough) seems to have been nothing but a thorn in the side of PE.

Just to clarify bogtrotter: A member claims 4” gains (twice what most here would say is practically possible) with no proof, he happens to also sell the PE equipment, and yet somehow he is the only one that could legitimize PE in your mind? Come on… please tell me I am reading you wrong.


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