Firegoat, “natural athletes guys,” as you call them lol, go to the gym so they can dominate the AAS users, even though they are natural. I am one of them, and it gives me great pride to lift more than someone who is using steroids and is still weaker than me. It is ego yes, but striving for every extra pound of weight while the AAS users lift more easily, is a great feeling. So I answered that question. For me 7.5x6 is perfect, here’s hoping I reach that in 10 years, from 5 nbpel :( . It would be nice to be 8 inches, just to say it, but you can just as easily lie and fool most women who don’t carry a ruler around everywhere, with 7.5 lol.