Who's doing this routine feedback

Is there anyone else out there who is doing the following routine? (Not typing out the whole thing, but if you do it you will know)
>5 minute hot towel warmup

>4 x 5 minute stretches (up, down, left, right) followed by twirling, 1 minute slight tug and 10 short tugs

>Jelqing 10-20 minutes
>Warm down and another hot towel wrap. Finished

If there’s anybody out there doing this routine, let us know how long you’ve been doing it for, and how it’s all been going for you. I’m very confident that this routine is a good one, however let me know how you guys are going.
Cheers

Do the newbie routine

What he said.

The newbie routine is there for a reason.

I don’t see much difference between the newbie routine and this one.

Really?

Yours

5 min warmup
4 x 5 min stretches (up, down, left, right) followed by twirling, 1 minute slight tug and 10 short tugs
10-20 min jelq
Warm down then hot towel wrap

Newbie Routine

5 min hot wrap
5 min manual stretch (ten 30-second stretches)
10 min of jelq (two hundred 3-second strokes)
5 min hot wrap
50 kegels of five second holds each

Comparisons
Warmup - Same
Stretching - You’re doing 4 times as much total time, and 10 times as much time in each stretch
Jelqs - You’re doing between the same, and double, the recommended amount.
Warm down - Same
You have no kegels.

In conclusion….

You’re doing more than the newbie routine recommends you do.

Also, no kegels? Why not?

A “warm down” and a “hot towel wrap” are the same thing, not sure why you’re doing them both at the end of your routine.

One more thing - if you thought your routine was basically the same, why are you even asking in the first place? :confused:

Yo slack, sorry was sort of slack myself with posting the thread in the first place.
Kegels are in the routine, just forgot to mention them (because they suck), the warm down section of the routine is like a gentle massage, followed by another hot towel wrap.

Posted the post before I even looked at that newbie routine on this forum. So do you think I am doing it for too long? Cheers

I think you should do what the newbie routine states, then you can slowly increase time/reps as the weeks go by….if needed. :)

Is there a danger of stretching for too long as a beginner? I haven’t encountered any problems yet. No soreness etc. Looking after myself by making sure I do the correct massages and hot towel wraps etc. No discolouration or rashes, everything feels a-OK to me!

You should be ok, as long as you follow the “rule” of

You can’t stretch too much, but you can stretch too hard.

Having said that, I would still recommend you to start slow and slowly add more stretches, so the Ligs don’t go into protective mode if you stretch too hard…

Interesting points Slack.

I am a newb.. I guess.

I started out really slow with the beginner routine. Maybe even less than the beginner routine.

Over time I became accustomed to what I was doing and realistically felt I could up the intensity. I am in my 4th week now, and this is my routine.

1. 5 min warmup
2. 10 minute manual stretch with IR lamp, once in morning, once in evening. (How do I measure intensity?)
3. 30 minute wet jelq. Many web pages suggest 30 minutes. I decided to give it a try and the post Jelq hang difference is obvious.
4. Post PE warm-down.
5. Kegel all day when ever I think about it.

My questions:

1. At what point am I no longer a newbie?
2. How am I supposed to judge intensity? The movies on this site look more intense than what I am doing. For the wet Jelq, the guy’s hand seems to be trembling, like he’s really squeezing hard. For the stretch, they show adding another hand for MORE POWER! Wow!
3. Other than injuries (which are more obvious) how would one know they are over-training? There most be some sign other than “just follow the newbie routine”.

I try to be sensible with the intensity. I don’t want to do too much, but I really don’t want to do too little. Given the time you have to put into this, there seem to be so many unkowns.

Your questions:
1: after 3 months most guys here don’t see you as a newbie anymore
2: I feel the intensity, thrust your feeling. Other advice I could give you is read a lot of threats on thunders.
3: Your dick feels fagitue, red spots that hasn’t been cured the following day and don’t be able to get an erection.

So unless there are actual visible signs of over-training, over-stretching, and no apparent discomfort, everything should be alright then?

Precisely

Sweet, might stay on that one then; only because I’m already used to it and the extra stretching hasnt become a hassle yet - yet.

You might continue your routine at your own risk but remember that the newbie routine is invented for newbies and nearly every PE vet recommends it.