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Where do you find the motivation

Originally Posted by SonnyC
Somebody needs to start a ‘Women’s opinion on dick size debate with HardbodyPEer’ thread. I don’t mean that as an affront to you, HBPE, I know you’re replying to posts half the time. Actually, it might turn into an interesting thread, it just seems like every other thread is turning into this debate.

I already know how that would go, you’d get all different opinions from different perspectives (those of choosers and those of beggers), and you also have to keep in mind that women often lie and its usually to save someone their feelings or make them feel good, so I’m not sure what that debate would accomplish. Even on the internet, people bullshit, hell, some people still bullshit in an anonymous survey, but I bet if there was a completely anonymous survey taken by females, you’d see a much higher number say penis size is very important than if a survey was less anonymous.

By the way, I also state how important cash is, but since we are on a PE forum, people tend to ignore that part or actually agree with it, but downplay the importance of dick size.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
You entirely missed the point of the saying. It means that I’m the kind of person that likes to hit problems head on, not run from them or pretend they don’t exist. I handle my business and that doesn’t bleed over into my personal life, that is possible you know.

Believe me I know what you’re trying to say, you remind me of some guy I saw in a documentary on penis size who was going to get an operation to get his dick bigger and he believed that it would solve all his problems. The guy was 7” erect or something by the way. My point by pointing that out was that the way you perceive yourself affects the way people look at you, so if you think you have a problem, women will too. Women don’t like insecure guys. If you can’t live with your own penis size then the problem isn’t in your penis. Plus the way you described your view/outlook on women today was just grim to me, and it reminds me of the way I think when I’m very depressed or something. Remember that the way you perceive the world shapes your world. Best of luck to you and as some other poster said, we’ll just agree to disagree. I don’t feel like arguing. :P

Like I said, big dick and money will get the chick.

Let’s define the chick.. She’s a 9 or a 10 and anything less will take less to get. That’s a fact!

Originally Posted by SNM
Like I said, big dick and money will get the chick.

Let’s define the chick.. She’s a 9 or a 10 and anything less will take less to get. That’s a fact!

A little charisma and a personality thrown in can substitute for either of those pretty decently.


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Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
Acid, we’ll have to agree to disagree about the importance. Obviously not all women are gonna say its very important and in fact, most of these women are not the choosers (top of the food chain) females I’m talking about. I was specific in stating it was important for females who are in the position to have any guy they want. I also think there is a cultural difference thats created by our generational gap, I know your older, and that age difference makes a difference, the reasons for that are debatable, but without a doubt it exists.

I also don’t think penis size has nothing to do with being a man, the only thing is good for is holding onto (and getting with, if you have the rep, word of mouth) chicks that you otherwise could not, thats really it in a nutshell. I’m comfortable with who I am today, but because I don’t have that monster, I am not delusional about things.

As far as the website goes, I do generally agree with it, I didn’t read the whole thing, I skimmed through it, but I found this website WELL AFTER I’ve come to my beliefs on this issue based on my experience. I know I might come off harsh sometimes, but everything I say is based on my experince and I believe it to be 100% true (in fact I know it is). There is an old saying, (I’m paraphrasing, probably a bad job of it) “I’d rather be fat and (painfully) aware of it and miserable rather than fat, dumb (unaware) and happy, thats just how I am.

PE for me is something that is helping me to be the best me I can be. I strive for excellence or better in every controllable aspect of my life, even if it didn’t help me keep many of the girls that I know I could have over the past 10 or so years, why wouldn’t I? I spend many hours in the gym, studying, keeping good hygiene and staying groomed, that is just who I am.


Hardbody,

You definitely are a “HARD headed” dude. You are free to think what you want. But, I am not that old to be out of what is considered “main stream”. Your generation is not that far off from mine.

You, obviously, have made up your mind about this. So be it. I ain’t mad at ya. It is your life, and you are free to believe how you want to.

Good luck in your quest for a HUGE penis. I’m telling you, though, I don’t think a 9 x 7 will be big enough for you, or all of these women you talk about. I’ll be fine with my little 7.3 x 5.55. And if I get to my goal, than so be it. Take care of yourself,… I mean that.


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
almost all agree there are multiple different types of orgasms, 1 involving uterine contractions that is best achieved if you can reach the posterior fornix


My gf has multiple vaginal orgasms, but not when I hit her deep; on the contrary, in that case she feels such a pain we have to stop - and, btw, I’m average.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
http://www.penissizedebate.com/page…-penis-size.htm
Regardless of what you think of that site, I think that is a pretty good standard to consider when judging what is large/medium/small to females


I wonder how they compiled that chart. I’d guess they just asked women what they’d prefer, thus meaning other things being equal (all men with the same intelligence, wealth, personality and so on).
That graph should be integrated by another graph, showing the women’s opinion about how much important is the ‘penis criterion’ with regard to all the other things (aforementioned intelligence, wealth, personality and so on).

I don’t consider particularly interesting looking at a chart that only answers the question “how would you define a man’s penis of this size, if for everything else he’s the perfect man?”.
I’m more interested about how she defines a perfect man.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
If I can get my size up and when I finish with my schooling, I will bet you every dollar I make that I don’t have the problems keeping women that I do now.


This can possibly be the saddest of all things you said, because from my point of view you’ll accomplish this great result only to find out that’s very sad to be with a woman who’s staying with you only for your size.

Originally Posted by GirthQuest
I’m so glad I don’t live in Hip-Hopville.


:D

Originally Posted by Beelzeboss
women will resort to dick size when there is nothing else to interest her, maybe she doesn’t think you’re cute, or she doesn’t find you that interesting or worth her time, then yes all of a sudden dick size is more important because it’s all that’s left, well that and money of course.


I agree.

Originally Posted by theleviathan
My gf has multiple vaginal orgasms, but not when I hit her deep; on the contrary, in that case she feels such a pain we have to stop - and, btw, I’m average.

This can possibly be the saddest of all things you said, because from my point of view you’ll accomplish this great result only to find out that’s very sad to be with a woman who’s staying with you only for your size.

First point, if you go back and read what I wrote, there are multiple different kinds of female orgasms, so there is no suprise there. Pacinian receptor mediated orgasm (caused by girth), clitoral, uterine (caused by hitting deep areas, beyond the cervix) and probably more. I’m not a female, and don’t play one on TV :) , but from what I’ve read, the uterine orgasms are the most intense, although I doubt a large percentage of women have actually experienced one.

Honestly, I’m not an emotional guy, I don’t care why a woman is with me, as long as she is with me and I get sex on a regular basis from a hot female without having to go out, strike out a bunch of times to finally find a female that may or may not let me fuck, and if she does, won’t likely be around for any length of time (till she finds Mr. Hung). So, if you could understand my mentality, its not very sad at all, its actually very good. We all use each other, men use women, women use men, and people of the same sex use each other for other reasons. “True” love, may perhaps exist, but in my opinion it must be very very rare from what I’ve seen and experienced. Everyone is with someone else for one reason or another. Guys who think their wives “love” them would be in for a shock if they became paralyzed tomorrow and couldn’t bang her, she’d be fucking the milk man, its just the way it is.

Bottom line, everyone is used for something, it doesn’t really matter why your being used (money, big dick, etc.), as long as you get what you want in the process, then its a “symbiotic” relationship, nothing unhealthy about that.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

You should stop looking for a woman and build your own from scratch.

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
Guys who think their wives “love” them would be in for a shock if they became paralyzed tomorrow and couldn’t bang her, she’d be fucking the milk man, its just the way it is.

Hardbody,

Dude, it seems like you are dead set on proving that women are with a man BECAUSE of how good or bad the sex is. In general, women are not sex obsessed like us men are. (we really are wired differently) There are hundreds, if not thousands of cases where your scenario, above, has happened, and a wife sticks with the guy because she loves him. Love does exist. Yes, there are certain things men and women look for in a mate that have nothing to do with the emotion, “Love”.

But, once that deep emotional connection has been made with a woman, the vast majority are in it for the long haul. Saying that it’s “just the way it is”, is a sweeping generalization with no basis in fact.

Hardbody, relationships are not all about sex and dick size. I think someday you’ll realize that. Until then, you’ve got to sort through your beliefs, and find out what makes you happy. I’m not sure having a HUGE dick will make you happy.

Ask yourself the question: “what if have a 9 x 7 and my girlfriend leaves me for a guy with a SMALLER dick?”

In other words, most women would leave a man with a big dick for a guy with a smaller dick if her emotional needs aren’t being met.

As far as the topic of the thread goes; finding motivation should be pretty easy. For me, I want a bigger dick, because I like the way I feel about myself with a bigger unit.


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

TIME! I feel the same way! Sometimes my routine takes an hour and a half to complete I do 4 rounds of stretches right now for about 45 seconds each and currently doing 160 jelqs. Maybe I’m jelqing too long but It has been difficult when you come home from work to try and get motivated to get going. But I don’t give up this place is motivation and the first time I saw gains I knew it worked!

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer

Bottom line, everyone is used for something, it doesn’t really matter why your being used (money, big dick, etc.), as long as you get what you want in the process, then its a “symbiotic” relationship, nothing unhealthy about that.

Someone who is with you for your money is a parasite, thats a parasitic relationship. First whiff I get that a woman is merely with me for my money (I sure as hell don’t have a big dick) I’ll kick her to the kerb. Not what I want in life.

I’ll be celibate before I become the loser who keeps his girl in designer gear so she won’t fuck around.


Last edited by GirthQuest : 03-11-2009 at . Reason: spelling

Originally Posted by HardbodyPEer
Here are a couple serious questions for you, what is your age? And what kind of environment did you grow up in (rural, suburban, urban, all white, culturally diverse, etc., etc.)?

I am 45 years old and grew up in a predominately white suburban area. Went to college in a very culturally diverse college.

I am not trying to tell you that women don’t generally prefer large cocks - they do. What I wish you would understand is that even the creme of the crop does not have dick size that high up on there priority list. They like money, confidence, sense of humor, integrity, stamina, sexual prowess, etc. more than a giant cock. Your attitude toward this is unhealthy and even self fulfilling. With that I digress.

Originally Posted by GirthQuest
I’ll be celibate before I become the loser who keeps his girl in designer gear so she won’t fuck around.

Hey, I never said that if you get a girl because of money that she won’t cheat, I just wanted to stay away from that particular topic.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

Originally Posted by Pringles Can
Your attitude toward this is unhealthy and even self fulfilling. With that I digress.

My “attitude” (if you really want to call it that) has been based on previous and current experiences. What I type on thunders, I keep to myself, this is my place to discuss these issues. They attitude doesn’t shine through in my personality and thus, cannot be self fulfilling, you have cause and effect flipped around.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

This is one hell of a thread.

Personally, I don’t think it should matter much why anyone is here. We all have our different reasons for wanting to reach our goals, but does it matter what anyone else’s reason is? If we commit ourselves to stretching and squeezing our dicks several times a week for a number of years, our reasons for doing so are clearly good enough. Only when we cannot keep it together for extended periods of time should we start to question ourselves. In that case, the motivation is obviously lacking.

And that’s what this thread is all about. Motivation comes in many forms, from many different sources. I don’t want to question anyone’s reasons for wanting more. We should just go out and get those extra inches. If a guy can commit to PE for a long time and get good gains, we should all learn from him, whether we take lessons away from the substance of his routine or the source of his motivation.

For me, consistency is the hardest part of PE. I applaud anyone who can get that, no matter how or why they have.

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