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Okay been doing the newbie routine for over a month and increased slowly to more jelqs and longer stretches. But have not gained a lot maybe .1 to .2 in length and nothing in girth but penis does look healthier. Now my PIs were a lot better when I started then they are now. I mean I don’t think I have bad PIs no pain or anything like that.

It’s just when I started out I couldn’t stop getting erections now I only get them in the morning or when something excites me. My EQ is never really below a 8 but not always a 10 like it was when I first started. Also I been turtling a lot more now. When I first started in the first few weeks my flaccid hang was much bigger and stayed longer.

Is this a normal process or am I having neutral or bad PI. If so what do you guys recommend I do? Rest, change routine, do less jelqs and stretches? Also would like to know can your PI go down from doing to little work?

Thanks for the help

Definitely your seeing a response to your work. The regression your having in your flaccid is the reaction to the jelqing. the only way to combat this is to lighten up on your stressing. The only other formula is use an ADS between your sessions to prevent retraction. This what hangers employ. When you over work your unit what will happen is a retraction response to help the body deliver enzymes and proteins to the damaged tissues. These components are what the body provides to promote healing. One of the last phases of the healing cycle of the body is to return the damaged unit back its original length. Because you are working daily (I assume) this is all that is preventing a permanent condition that well create a plateau.or toughening of the tissues. If you continue eventually you will see a general relaxation of the flaccid length but consistency is key and if you should have any breaks in your routine lasting more the one day your vulnerable to a plateau.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

I had a similar problem. What I’ve learned is that if you ramp it up beyond what your unit can comfortably handle, you’ll get stuck in a rut and make no progress. I keep logs of my workouts, so what solved this for me was going back and looking at my measurements and what my logs said I did to get there. Two weeks ago I went from 200 jelqs and 15 minutes of stretching per day back down to 50 jelqs and 5 minutes of stretching. The positive impact on my EQ has been astonishing, and I’m making progress again.

I would say go back to basics. The agreed upon wisdom I’ve been able to gather from these boards is that if a routine is working for you, don’t change anything until you stop making gains for a couple of weeks. Bump down your workout and see where it leads in a week or two. It may feel like you’re going to stop making progress, but you won’t be over training and you can slowly work back up towards what stimulates growth for you.

Originally Posted by Monty:
Definitely your seeing a response to your work. The regression your having in your flaccid is the reaction to the jelqing. The only way to combat this is to lighten up on your stressing. The only other formula is use an ADS between your sessions to prevent retraction. This what hangers employ. When you over work your unit what will happen is a retraction response to help the body deliver enzymes and proteins to the damaged tissues. These components are what the body provides to promote healing. One of the last phases of the healing cycle of the body is to return the damaged unit back it’s original length. Because you are working daily (I assume) this is all that is preventing a permanent condition that well create a plateau.or toughening of the tissues. If you continue eventually you will see a general relaxation of the flaccid length but consistency is key and if you should have any breaks in your routine lasting more the one day your vulnerable to a plateau.

Hey thanks for the help man. So you suggest to just keep going with my routine and that eventually it will stop? Not really looking to get a ads just yet because I’m only a month and a half into PE want to wait at least 3 months before starting to use a ads. Just so we are clear you recommend staying in the routine. Or are you saying I’m over working it and that’s causing the turtling and should slow down?

Originally Posted by EightSteel
I had a similar problem. What I’ve learned is that if you ramp it up beyond what your unit can comfortably handle, you’ll get stuck in a rut and make no progress. I keep logs of my workouts, so what solved this for me was going back and looking at my measurements and what my logs said I did to get there. Two weeks ago I went from 200 jelqs and 15 minutes of stretching per day back down to 50 jelqs and 5 minutes of stretching. The positive impact on my EQ has been astonishing, and I’m making progress again.
I would say go back to basics. The agreed upon wisdom I’ve been able to gather from these boards is that if a routine is working for you, don’t change anything until you stop making gains for a couple of weeks. Bump down your workout and see where it leads in a week or two. It may feel like you’re going to stop making progress, but you won’t be over training and you can slowly work back up towards what stimulates growth for you.

Hey yeah I actually started at 200 jelqs got a little hurt and went down to 75 and am up to 150 again. I was honestly getting better PI’s at 200 jelqs then when I had to lower it.

Yes what you want to accomplish is to apply enough stress to encourage the ligs to relax again but in the extended or gained condition. So IOW don’t stop but lower the stress to where your not going for extension but instead just go for relaxed full length. This will give the time necessary for the retracted state to give up. Left in this condition you will have strengthened ligs and a tough plateau to break. Newbie’s aren’t the only ones that get into this problem. It happens over and over to hangers that get too enthusiastic about hanging and put on too much weight. With an ADS you don’t have to worry about jelqing all the time and by the time you reach the hanging stage your hands aren’t going to be sufficient.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

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