What to do Can't stay with one routine.

Hi, guys

I have been doing PE since November 2012, but I feel disappointed, I don’t know what exactly is the right way (nobody knows) I think that I’ve gain some length about 1 cm and circumference maybe about 3 mm
, And my flaccid state is bigger, but I don’t measure because it is useless. So I´m in for about 6 months and my gains seems to be really small in fact that I want especially girth.

So whats the point - some member told me, to do less, like 3 days in week and only small amount of jelqs but hard one, combine with kegels and stretching
- For me to stay with that routine it was really hard, so I slip into my ordinary routine. ( I was scared of underestimating schedule)

I have read about uli’s routine like 200 jelqs, stretching, every AM and PM I do this for one month and maybe it was the time I’ve gained those three millimetres but I´m not sure.:(
- But these times my penis stays much more hang and I felt better but still in my mind stay, ” what if that’s the problem, that you do too much) So I downgrade to-

Doing about 60 jelqs 2 days in 1 day off, but I can’t compel myself to do nothing! Maybe that is the worst thing to do.
But my penis won’t longer stays bigger in flaccid and that scared me again so I start over the Ulis routine and now I’m really confused what to do.

I’ve read the newbie routine and I think its really to much compared to 3 days in week, and my last routine.

Now I have 7,3- 7,5 BPEL and 5 in girth, my length doesn’t bather me but I want more girth.

1 cm is a good gain in length and 3 cm is excellent in the girth category! While it may be disappointing to hear, you may fall under the group of men who gain slowly. I know because I fall under that group as well, however, I have seen gains. Taking a break, whether 1 or 2 weeks off allows your penis to rest, much like the rest you need while exercising normally. Resting works, because I have seen it work in me. My erections were hard again, I gained quickly once I started my routine again, and I felt more confident. Take a week off, and if you do anything besides have sex, limit it to edging and kegels. Then go back to a routine like this:

1) Warm up 5-10 min

2) Stretch for 30 seconds to the right, left, up, down, and out while doing kegels

3) 50 jelqs

4) Increase jelqs by 10 each week until you reach your previous routine, unless of course, you feel pain.

5) Check this thread again for any tips by the moderators that may know more about balancing your routine than this information.

Those are normal gains for 6 months. Keep it up, it’s working for you, and you’ll get the gains they will just come slowly over the months and years.

I didn’t fully understand which routine got you more size during and after the workout. But out of the two routines you posted, I say do the one that makes your penis bigger afterward and improves your flaccid hang. Those are usually signs that it is effective.

Dude the routine I gave you was so simple.

Maybe you had a hard time understanding me or just got mixed up with the high intensity do more and more crowd. I developed this program after going through the same problems you had, I did all the work experimenting so you didn’t have to. I don’t know who came up with 1 on 1 off or 2 on 1 off schedule, but recovery IS NOT universal! Some guys can snap back from high intensity 200+ jelq sets and some guys need a week off or more to do the same routine. Also damage is accumulative and you can’t expect to PE with nearly no rest or keep your intensity super high for months on end. That’s where periodization, or low intensity cycles come in every few months to allow you to keep PEing and stay enlarged but catch up on recovery.

The routine I gave you was as follows with an ABA BAB layout Monday, Wednesday, and Friday ONLY. A days being one head girth exercise and stretching in one direction, and B days being kegels and wet jelqs. And the way I explained it, the first two weeks of every month you do A on Monday, B on wednesday, and A again on Friday, rest the entire weekend. Then on the following Monday you B, Wednesday A, and Friday B again. Wash rinse repeat for the remaining two weeks of the month! You only do 3 sets of each with as little rest as possible, THAT’S ALL!

If you need an example of the workouts……. The head exercise is just a Uli under neith the head, and stretching is the same but I advise picking one angle a workout and working it hard. Starting off I recommend 2-3 warm up sets of each and then no more than 20-25 of any moving exercise and no more than 20 seconds of any timed exercise like stretching or kegels. It’s not hard, but if this is your first time training the kegels at the same time you will need to “pay your dues” and accept that if you can only get 5-10 wet jelqs or a few seconds of an erect kegel squeeze then that’s all your penis can handle the first time. You’re not doing it wrong, you’ll just need to put your time in and slowly get stronger and bigger as you learn the exercises properly. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve told the newbies that come here asking the same questions looking for faster results to go back and “slowly” milk their gains and learn how to jelq, stretch, kegel, and recover properly first.

You’re not going to find a magic routine that pack on half an inch over night no matter what you do. The only tried and true formula is learning about your body, being consistent with low volume PE until have mastered the basics first and can possible think about addin in a gadget or another exercise, proper rest…. which means not forcing yourself to PE more thinking that you need to bully your penis into submission, and diet and exercise…… And I have a lot to add here about cardio and grip work, kettlebell swings, towel hangs from pullup bars and such. Does any of this sound difficult to you? It just takes time bro….. Your first couple of years PEing are all about learning how to PE and learning about your body, not looking for quick fixes or magic bullets.

GU1N3SS : Thanks for response, but first of all, my girth gains wasn’t 3 cm but 3 mm that means 0,3 cm - 0,11” inch I wouldn’t complain if I gain 3 cm in girth.

BeardedDragon and TheGreatDivider : So one of you saying ” Do the one that makes your penis bigger afterward and improves your flaccid hang.” other one saying to do less.

TheGreatDivider: Yesterday - saturday( I moved your routine in different days. Today- monday, I have recovery day) I have done 3 x kegels 37 secs 30 secs and 26 secs and girth routine wasn’t that hard that I expected so I’ve done 25 proper jelqs then 15 and 16.

But I would like to change the order of these two, because my kegels are strained after kegel routine, so I think it would be better to do girth routine first. Or I could do kegels in the morning and girth at the evening. What do you think?

I was bigger after this routine too. So it could work either.

That’s what I usually do, kegels in the morning and wet jelqs at night. I find this gives me a bigger flaccid throughout the day and makes wet jelqs easier.

Hi, I have ordered bathmate do you have any ideas when should I use it in your routine?

By the way, I´m little bit stressed, because even newbie routine has got almost 200 jelqs 2 days in 2 off, so I hope that this small amount of working going to work.

2 days in 1* off

There you go again with that “I must do” attitude where you see someone else doing it and that that’s the only way. When was the last time you did 200 reps of any exercise and had larger muscles to show for it? More than likely you did fewer reps and used more intense resistance to help you do more strain to your body in less time. And I’ll remind you that the newbie routine it not the end all be all in penis enlargement. There are also other programs on that page like this one NEW newbie + advanced routine

This program will work! You may not see the “fools gains” where you magically gain 1/2” in a few days and lose it just as quickly, but you also won’t lose anything from over training and injuring yourself…. Because you will start off slowly putting in your timet to learn how to PE properly and not just running from the start and hitting ever brick wall along the way. Can you put up with 2 months before it gets harder?

You can start using your Bathmate at any time, the suction won’t be anywhere near as harsh on your penis as claming was. It works best when used after your manual exercises. Just keep it under 10 minutes a day at first and don’t make the mistake of confusing pumped flaccid for gains…. It’s just water.

Pick one thing and do it consistently. If it works keep doing it. If it doesn’t, pick something different and do that consistently.

Hey guys, thanks for keeping me positive.
I´ve just checking the linear newbie routine and one thing really hits me, he said - “After workout don’t play with your dick within a couple hours if possible, just let it be.” I have realised that the first month when it seems that I’ve gained - even a little 3mm in girth, I was working from morning to evening in job and I was tired to masturbate in the evening, It is really different when you don’t - at least for me. My flaccid length-girth stays really big when I don’t masturbate after routine, so I try to hold with it and tells you if it work with The GreatDivider routine. ( Not totally but limit it)

- Now I see some changes, I can keep my dick erect with contracted kegels (kegel exercise) for 40 secs stone hard and I can see that my kegels really work so even if I don’t gain I have change at least my EQ and that’s cool for me.

Now I have two days off so I hope I will make it:.

One last thing - it is really not comfortable to do head exercise so instead of that I do 3 times a week girth exercise I think that is really similar.

So I have measure myself after 2 weeks of soft routine and I think that I have lost what I have gained from hard routine. My dick is longer then before( at least it looks like), but I don’t care about length, I’m heading for girth. :(

I have been thinking, besides of that I have started to be really addicted to this forum and being sad of losing what I have gained.

I’m here to inform you, how I’m struggling with routine so here is some points.

- I´m 21, 66 kg (145.505 pounds), muscular body - 180 cm( 70.8661”) height - having a problem to put on weight, so I think that I have fast metabolism. Why I’m telling you? I think, that this is the “thing” we should be giving more importance, So only way how to put on weight is - strengthening - lifting weights, doing push ups and whatever is important to gain muscles.
On the other hand, I’m gaining muscles pretty easy or they are just better visible on me? I don’t thinks so, I have different structure of body (type which gain with ease) I’m not boasting just telling my points.

- I’m a grower so when I don’t touch him for some time it shrinks to about 3,5 ” so when I got hard I’m 2x times bigger about 7,3 “

When did you “became convinced” that I´m the one who need to do the “slow” way?

I told you in my first post that I have no problem with uli’s routine every PM, AM - 150-200 jelqs 3 days on 1 off and that was the only routine which make me feel that I grow, It feels bigger, it was bigger.

Now instead of that, I can barely do about 3 x 20 jelqs with kegels( I know that quantity is not that important) but it hasn’t the similar effect as when I’ve done 150 without kegels. I read somewhere, maybe in linear routine, that right after routine your package should be bigger in erect state and that really was when I measured girth after uli’s routine.

With contracted kegels - jelqing and stretching I’m exhausted and its not really comfortable to combine it because it is different and as it seems logical, It doesn’t let me pump as much blood as without contracted kegels. Besides it hurts my veins on foreskin when I combine it.

I’m grower. What if it has something to do with “shower” and “grower”? What if I can heal myself faster and I need to keep my package bigger for longer time instead of let it shrink to half size for almost one and half days?

I don’t want to oppose you, but if I had to keep with the light routine, I would like to do some changes, for example keep kegels without combining together with stretch or jelq.

Thanks for your nerves.

What the hell are you talking about? You’re convinced that you’re losing gains, which isn’t fucking possible because the only thing that changes is temporary edema (water retention). You don’t even know what gains to expect to expect from PE because you can’t even stick with a routine for long enough to see results…. We’re talking about 1/16”(1.5mm) to 1/8”(3mm) on average per month with results showing a 2-4 weeks after each month completed. You’re telling me as a newbie you know how PE works when you obviously do not. You know nothing about inflammation and the false gains you get from over doing it….. Which is what you’re seeing! You wanted help with your routine, I gave it to you, and all you want to do now is make excuses for why it can’t work when you can’t even stick with this for long enough. I don’t even know why I waste my time with you! You want to get a huge penis right? You’re going to have to fucking throw away your ego, learn a thing or two about patience and dedication, and stop looking for reasons to give up so soon. And as a newbie you could learn a lot from listening to what those who have spent longer than six month PEing have to say before giving a big “fuck you” to their advice and deciding you know better based on temporary gains.

Yes, you’re fucking right that I don’t have any clue about PE. I don’t read a thousands of topics which is not even in my own language.
I don’t care about my ego, my ego is broken since I’ve joined this fucking site because my girlfriend told me about her big ex-friends dick.

Its because I’m in for about half of year and I don’t see gains- yes I know I can’t stand with one routine and probably doing it like shit. I’m not telling how PE works, how could I?- I don’t have any gains or maybe my length was increased. I never mean to question what you have told me. I respect that you want to help me and your routine too.
I don’t giving you big “fuck you”, only some of your exercises are hard for me.
But as you said, if I will listen to experienced PEers I probably do the same as I did since now( screw it) because everyone say the right opposite and I’m confused. “DO billions of jelqs, do only 30 jelq. Do it every morning and evening I’ve gained two inches in girth Do it only once per two days”