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Originally Posted by prynceton
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Cracking of the tunica resulting in dsicoloration resulting in damage and increased likelihood of Peyronie’s Disease:
Http://en.allexperts.com/q/Urology-…/Stretching.htm

On top of this one debunked method is hanging as it is a unefficient method of hanging and the level of risk is higher than controlled stretching.
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Discoloration is not the consequence of the ‘cracking of tunica’.
Be Aware of Discolouration

Neither ‘cracking of tunica’ has ever been reported as a consequence of hanging - neither your reference link says that, actually.

Tunica rupture is typically a consequence of bending the penis in erect state. Hanging is not performed erect either. So, you asking to people to educate themselves, actually it’s you that should educate yourself.

You are saying that only extenders are safe and effective. Now, explain me what’s the difference in stretching the penis with an extender or with your hands or again with weigths.

I do see also that your ‘knowledge’ is coming from the maleedge site. So I’d say you are trying to advertise commercial extenders. This is not the way, and beside taht you need a commercial account for that.

Originally Posted by prynceton

Cracking of the tunica resulting in dsicoloration resulting in damage and increased likelihood of Peyronie’s Disease:

Http://en.allexperts.com/q/Urology-Male-issues-989/Stretching.htm

Can you tell me where, in that link, discolouration is mentioned. I must have missed it.

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On top of this one debunked method is hanging as it is a unefficient method of hanging and the level of risk is higher than controlled stretching. I think I have my answer for the level of knowledge and understanding shown by your forum members already. Thank you.

Odd that all the surgeons that perform enlargement surgery insist on a minimum 8 hours hanging a day post surgery. Manual stretching can produce many times the force of hanging.

It is perfectly fine to say you do not believe someone’s claims, but it is not acceptable to state that they are false.

I’m not quite sure what your aim is on being on this forum?


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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First off I’m done, I never intended to bash any members of your flame heavy site. I’ve provided science that people spent more than 2 seconds of half ass typing to forum to form. All I’ve seen is hate back for it and no statistics for it.

To answer your questions down the list:

Yeah ThunderSS I was here before or maybe I read up on the site for an hour before even typing a comment. Maybe Bib’s 19 months post from the old PE Forums clearly stated BIB as a Moderator and Bib’s Uli thing clearly stated him as a Co-Administrator. Great deduction, with 48,00 you’ve managed to gain the skill of giving a shit less to the OP and to be unbiased when trying to achieve a better outcome to a shared goal. Oh and this is from your Penis Manual which I perused before even beginning to type a post also. So even if the info from the links is old you keep it as current information to all new users.

Originally Posted by marinera
I do see also that your ‘knowledge’ is coming from the maleedge site. So I’d say you are trying to advertise commercial extenders. This is not the way, and beside taht you need a commercial account for that.

Marinera, you say I’m advertising yet you asked for the links which I chose to not post. You asked for the links, I kept everything anonymous for purposes of not leading people from this site. But again you asked for those links.

Originally Posted by marinera
When quoting a study, please add a link to the source if you can or write down all the authors, editorm year etc., like it is done in a book when citing another book.

MarkPe, for not caring you could of saved your sentence and spent it on something you did care about. Terrific teamwork though!

Mister007, I have started and am looking at proven methods and the best ones to continue to do so with also minimizing side effects but will study hanging more verses controlled stretching and I appreciate your comment

Iamaru, marinera, firegoat here is reference for your troubles even though I’ve seen no factual evidence to go against my original post questions.

Urologists attribute any change in size to swelling caused by bleeding under the skin triggered by the prescribed jelqing “exercise.”
Http://www.drweil.com/drw/you/id/QAA192284

The bleeding then leads to scar tissue which leads into discoloration the same a nasty arm scar it’s breakage and reconstruction of the cells and other parts of the unit. A combination of bleeding/tissue/and sometimes skin. Tunica cracking can lead to this or other forms of penile trauma.

Originally Posted by marinera
Neither ‘cracking of tunica’ has ever been reported as a consequence of hanging - neither your reference link says that, actually.

Tunica rupture is typically a consequence of bending the penis in erect state. Hanging is not performed erect either. So, you asking to people to educate themselves, actually it’s you that should educate yourself.

Tunica cracking is occured “normally because of a bent penis because “extra pressure” is placed on it. The same extra pressure you place on the unit with some the exercises.

Again I never said PE doesn’t work but you don’t see that. So please enlargement gods since you’ve obviously have data and results to back your theory (which mind you would be only yours and not from others as you don’t actively train in person other people’s penises do you) you obviously know so much more. Instead of being objective and then improving every aspect of pe techniques you’ve chosen to defend your own egos.

It seems only 2 people even got the post:

Originally Posted by man-of-10
Ha. I love how nobody really cares when people doubt the effectiveness of PE on here. Pretty telling in and of itself. Happy gains prynceton:leftie: .

With mister007 which I just mentioned

Originally Posted by prynceton

Iamaru, marinera, firegoat here is reference for your troubles even though I’ve seen no factual evidence to go against my original post questions.

Urologists attribute any change in size to swelling caused by bleeding under the skin triggered by the prescribed jelqing “exercise.”

Http://www.drweil.com/drw/you/id/QAA192284

Have you tried clicking it? Page no longer exists…. :confused: :o I wonder why?

You seem to indicate you were a member before, so I have to assume you either chose to no longer be a member (in which case why have you re-appeared under a different name?), or you are a previously banned ex-member?


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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edit: whatever..


Last edited by MarkPe : 03-14-2012 at .

Sorry firegoat and no I was never a former member the post said yeah I am a former member as in sarcasm toward the respondent and then I linked where I had past knowledge of the site as how I knew so much about members.

The link is here and I don’t know how that got screwed up.
Http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Urolog…ge/show/1230539

Oh yeah and your wonder why comment. Cute further shows the ego builds here from a common url mistake.

Could we all remember it’s OK to attack the post, but it is not OK to directly attack the poster.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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I for one think it’s good to have some skeptics around to question certain things, interesting thread, keeps it fresh. And yes I’m a PEliever, within reason gains wise.

Thanks for the new link. There is only one comment on it from a doctor, who states “It is very difficult to precisely confirm a diagnosis without examination and investigations and the answer is based on the medical information provided. For exact diagnosis, you are requested to consult your doctor.”

There is only mention of scar tissue by an uninformed questioner.

If you continue to read this site, especially the injury forum, you will see that we do not gloss over the fact that there IS a risk in PE. And we constantly caution people not to do ‘too much, too soon’. We always suggest a 3 month initial period of slowly building up intensity, as to not do so increases the risk of injury when using more pressure. Very rarely, someone experiences problems from the newbie routine, but it is very rare. The majority who cause any damage are those who jump into doing advanced exercises too quickly, or who just believe ‘more is better’.

It’s no different to the attitude taken to weight training - if you start off too heavy, or do too much, or have bad technique, it is quite possible to injure yourself, especially early on. No-one denies that.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

The scar tissue link is only to one reference as I’ve been reading for hours on the topic as it is a very sensitive situation to be around. I have to hit the gym right now but would love for this conversation to continue.

Thanks

Dude nice work on that the research but if you are not a doctor, you have wasted your time, talking all that bla bla bla, you know that the patients followed were only using the extender not doing PE manual exercises or surgeries and yet they achieved 0,8-2,3cm gains, here at thunders we use all kinds of stuff and knowledge to improve our units, also believe that a 5.5 inch grown is impossible but I’ve never seen a report like this in the forum so, I don’t get your drift, that’s all hope you change your mind after performing some Newbie routine.


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Ok well enjoy the gym! I’m sure as a gym user you understand my analogy - that if, before first going to a gym you searched for potential injuries from using a gym, it would be easy to decide gyms are just too risky!


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Originally Posted by prynceton
Sorry firegoat and no I was never a former member the post said yeah I am a former member as in sarcasm toward the respondent and then I linked where I had past knowledge of the site as how I knew so much about members.

The link is here and I don’t know how that got screwed up.
Http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Urolog…ge/show/1230539

Oh yeah and your wonder why comment. Cute further shows the ego builds here from a common url mistake.


This links doesn’t speak at all of ‘tunica craking’. It just says that jelqing can be dangerous - which we always rember to people here.

Don’t worry about leading people away from this forum, if you have any good and relevant link, post it. If you are just repeating what is said on a commercial extender website, what do you figure I’m going think?

About the ego, I’d suggest to put yourself in others’ boots before moving remarks; about once a month there are 2 or 3 posters like you who believe have discovered all the possible objections to this community and the kind of activity its memebers are engaged with. Read my join date, and do your count. It coud perhaps relief you the fact that many of the vets here are about the most sceptics people you can imagine and that the cultural level of this forum is so high that even MD and researchers who join are often surprised.

I suggest - and take this in the most of friendly meanings - that you start reading around, to begin with the newbie sections
START HERE ——-> NEWBIE ROUTINE <——- Important Newbie Threads/Info

1 in 66 has an 8 inch dick? No fucking way right?

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