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Originally Posted by imatoy
If I understand dfurs660 correctly, I have done the same wrong kegeling as he has. So if we have been doing excessively strong contractions while kegeling, we did not gain from doing this? Were we only suppose to do our best to only exercise the BC?

I followed avocet8’s advice to retrain in kegels and it has worked wonders for my intercourse duration. Before I had done these excessively strong kegeling for probably 2 years every other day and I would do 15mins at best during sex. Now I’ve been kegeling for two weeks trying my best just to train the BC and letting the PC relax, and for the past 2 nights I’ve lasted as long as I want and the wife is happy. The “BC only” kegeling has been effective in teaching me to control the sensations. I’m not sure the 2 weeks had strengthen my BC though, I think the 2 years of excessively strong kegels had done that with both my BC and PC. But do you guys think that by doing kegels wrong that I have enlarged my prostate by this incorrect exercising?

As for shooting, the strong BC has not helped. I tried tugging the shaft toward the base in various grip strengths and nothing has helped. I have a larger meatus opening as compared to when I was younger due to sex I guess and I know this larger meatus opening is the culprit. So I tried the advice for uncut guys and tried to pull my shaft towards the glans and it worked. I’m cut and have little or no excess skin so I just tried different grip strengths and that sweet spot is just hard to find,but at least I can find the correct strength a 25% of the time as compared to none at all for tugging towards the base.

Hope my experience can help others. And big thanks to you guys for sharing. Seldom ever last long during intercourse, now I can marathon when I want.

Welcome to the board!

This gives me some hope,


Stats: (10/24/04) : BPEL-7.25", EG-5.5" (01/22/07) : BPEL-7.6", EG-5.6" after 1 year of maintenance

Goal: 8.5" L x 6.5" G

imatoy,

How loosely are you cut? How much of your loose skin can you pull over the glans? For the record, I can pull it about half way up since I have been stretching it for a few months.

Thanks for the welcome vater.

As for how loosely I’m cut. If I’m erect and grasp the shaft at the middle section toward the glans, I can stretch the skin just over the base of the glans.But that’s probably because I’m only 5 1/8” BPEL. If mines was longer, I’d doubt that the skin could stretch over the base of my glans.

What I did for shooting further was trial and error until I found the right amount of force to grasp the shaft about 1” just below the glans’ base.When I pulled the skin up using the underhand “ok” hold(the palm faced up with shaft laying atop,then make an ok but using all fingers to grasp), I would do a soft jelq to that 1” distance toward and little over the glans’ base at the time of ejaculation. And just hold the grasp there right a little over the glans’ base.Up to now I still can’t consistently get the right hold but I still try since it will come naturally when I make this routine.So keep on trying, anyways the 25% occurrence is still better than not being able to shoot far at all.But don’t expect 3ft coz you’d have to have a pretty small meatus and urethra to do that.Pulling out after missionary and shooting to her chest was enough, and now I feel like king.

Unlike what you see in porn where they keep on milking and shooting, I didn’t stroke it anymore other than just that once. I just held that grip over the glans’ base once I knew that I’d ejaculate. I’ve tried the stroking while shooting and it never worked for me. I know it’s not my PC and BC either coz it’s strong enough that I can hold the ejaculate back while orgasm and only a little drip would come out when masturbating or pulling out during sex. And when I chose to relax, the rest would start dripping out again or stay held back in the bladder I guess once I release my BC and PC hold.
My technique should work for you if you’re only problem is the large meatus opening. I masturbate once or twice a day so the volume of ejaculate shouldn’t be a problem coz if I probably did measure the amount, I would have only a little over a teaspoon probably.

Oh and I have another theory as to why some can’t shoot that far. My angle of erection is at 10 or 11 o’clock using the LOT clock. When I masturbate in the shower standing up, I have gravity going against me when I shoot at my angle erection. But then again if I try to shoot at 9 o’clock the inner penis bends as I’ve tried feeling on mines when I did some trial and errors in the shower. With respect to my shaft,my inner penis doesn’t just slant down like a banana and pull at the ligs but rather it pulls at the ligs and at the same time it makes an angled bend like a boomerang. Could this be one of the reasons I can’t shoot far while standing up? Every time I did shoot far was when I would just stick with my angle of erection, a 10 or 11 o’clock on the LOT clock. When in bed, I always stay with my angle of erection. During sex(only tried once since finding the right grasping strength), when I do pull out I grasp my shaft and pull toward the glans but I never went against my angle of erection.

Try it yourself while standing. If you go against the angle of erection and try to shoot at 9 o’clock it doesn’t spurt that much coz of the bend but it does keep the ejaculate coming with the contractions. But if you lay on your back and make sure to stay at your angle of erection when you shoot, the flow of ejaculate is unobstructed and you get more volume during the first and second contraction and little or a negligible amount during the rest of the orgasm.

Work with your angle of erection. Hold your shaft at the same angle as your inner penis is. I learned by touch where I bend at in the base area and since then I’ve always tried to keep my shaft and inner penis in a straight line when I ejaculate. Coupled with the correct grip strength when I grasp the glans,so far it has worked for me 25% of the time. I can’t factor in arousal level because so far it’s just the same to me all the time and the volume of semen isn’t a factor because I masturbate daily and shouldn’t have a lot to shoot.


Last edited by imatoy : 02-06-2006 at .

I used to be an oozer for along time.. then one day boom! All of a sudden I can hit a wall from 4 feet away. Didn’t make any sense to me then and doesn’t make any sense to me now. Over the course of about a month when I was around 20 I went from no-shooter to sniper rifle. Lends even more evidence to my theory that my penis has a mind of its own.


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imatoy,

I see. Can you please explain the angle of erection a little more? I’m not quite understanding what you’re saying.

For the record, I have no angle. My penis is completely straight.

Hmmm. I tried a squeeze on a masturbation session. It was just a quickie. When I came, I seemed to barely have any semen which was odd but I tried imatoy said and on the ejaculation, it seemed to spray out oddly. While it was quite watery and lacking in quantity, it sprayed out a small bit to my upper stomach/lower chest. I will experiment with this.

Got it.

I decided to experiment with squeezes on the head during urination, to find pressure. Yes, I realize that urination and ejaculation are very different. Regardless, it’s liquid pressure.

I found the perfect spot. You’ve gotta pinch the very top of the head, one finger at the top and one at the back. Not the middle of the head or the bottom, it has to be about as far up as you can go without actually having part of the finger off of it. When you do this, the hole should become more like an “o” shape and the urine stream should come out in a very skinny but consistant stream. It should not be spraying all over, it should still be a consistent stream. This is the target stream.

Now, when you ejaculate, apply this pressure again. I do it with my left hand while still stroking with my right. Looks dumb but it gets the job done. On the ejaculation, right when your body is about to release it on its own, slam down hard with a Kegel. This may or may not be necessary but it helps for me.

So far, I’ve hit my chin, sent it flying past my right arm (I tilted it funny) and I’ve hit my monitor. It works here. I hope you other dribblers can get it to work for you too.

Originally Posted by dfurs660
Got it.

I decided to experiment with squeezes on the head during urination, to find pressure. Yes, I realize that urination and ejaculation are very different. Regardless, it’s liquid pressure.

I found the perfect spot. You’ve gotta pinch the very top of the head, one finger at the top and one at the back. Not the middle of the head or the bottom, it has to be about as far up as you can go without actually having part of the finger off of it. When you do this, the hole should become more like an “o” shape and the urine stream should come out in a very skinny but consistant stream. It should not be spraying all over, it should still be a consistent stream. This is the target stream.

Now, when you ejaculate, apply this pressure again. I do it with my left hand while still stroking with my right. Looks dumb but it gets the job done. On the ejaculation, right when your body is about to release it on its own, slam down hard with a Kegel. This may or may not be necessary but it helps for me.

So far, I’ve hit my chin, sent it flying past my right arm (I tilted it funny) and I’ve hit my monitor. It works here. I hope you other dribblers can get it to work for you too.

Holy shit!

Nice job! Thanks for explaining this. I assume your thumb is on top and your index finger is on the bottom?


Stats: (10/24/04) : BPEL-7.25", EG-5.5" (01/22/07) : BPEL-7.6", EG-5.6" after 1 year of maintenance

Goal: 8.5" L x 6.5" G

Correct, Vater.

Hold off on your orgasm. Then when it’s going away. Push very hard by squeezing the PC

Have you tried just not orgasming for like 3,4 days? Usually gets it a bit stronger for me.

This is my first post (I have my first thread open in another window), but as a newbie, I feel like I can give you some encouragement. “Edging” (as it is apperantley called, I stumbled upon this myslef) is difficult for me, but, even if you don’t get a big gain in distance, just the sensation is worth stopping for a few seconds, a few seconds before you feel it coming. Squeezing the head, for me isn’t as effective as squeezing the base and releasing as soon as you feel some presure behind it. The first time I really shot more than a few inches was the first time I strapped a rubber band on (too poor at the time to buy a ring).

I’ve never hit the ceiling or anything, but I had some really good results from this little senario in my early 20s:

1. I had dial up, so I would search porn sites until I found a free clip 10-30 second clip that I thought looked promising, I’d load it and go do something else for a few minutes, watch it, save it and search some more.this prolonged 60-90 minute anticipation/arrousal period might have helped.

2. I would drink a few beers or cups of water, but not go take a leak because I was pre-occupied (this to me was the biggest factor, but also may have caused the ~post script~ at the end of this). Drink enough that you have to pee a little before you start, if the whole process takes 30+ minutes, including foreplay (even if it’s self foreplay). It results in a slightly more watery product, but alot more volume/force.

3. Use lube, even if you have to build up a little pre-cum, balance it on your head (that’s actually pretty fun) and repeat (mix in some mucasy spit toward the end if needed). Maybe it’s just me, but I have to kegel to maintain erection if I’m dry pumping and that never results in an impresive load/distance.

4. Concentrate on shooting it. Hold it back for like 2-3 seconds if you can. Then try to force like a kegel spasm. AND make sure you angle it away from your body (especially if it is rock hard), that will make a big difference as well. Stand up and aim it ever so slightly downward.

Don’t get discouraged. I never did anything more than dribble half a thimble full when I was 18 (well I filled the tip of a few condoms with partners, but when doing myself, I thought money shots in porn were special effects).

The above scenario I described was when I was in my early-to-mid 20s. When I was 18, I never thought I would shoot a big load, I never thought I would shoot anything aside from drugs.thankfully I never did the later and did plenty of the former.

I’m 31 now, and every once in a while, mostly when I really try, I can get the first blast to shoot a half foot or something, when by myself. With my wife, I do the same if I’m like straining to hold back while she orgasms, but if she got hers and just pull out, it looks/feels like what you might fear a 30 something would do.

P.s.- When I was about 24 I contracted Prostitis (lots of middle age men get it, but rarely as sevre as mine). I don’t know if it had to do with my full blader/ejaculation technique or what, but I don’t recomend having acute prostitis. Of course, I was near impotent when I had the most girls on my platter of my whole life. I took a plethora of antibiotics and couldn’t shake it for like 3 or 4 months. For most of that time none of the doctors knew what it was (mostly b/c I was so young for the symptoms), I just knew I had rectal pain and ED. Finally, they found trace blood in my urine and determined that’s what it was. Luckily, I happened to be taking a biology class at community college at the time. In passing, the function of the prostate was mentioned in that class. With little else to try, I thought maybe I just needed to clear out my prostate. I masturbated like 3-4 times a day for 3 or 4 days (also was on anti-biotics at the time, but had been tyring different varieties of that for like 3 months too) and it went away in a week. The moral of the story, probably is this, a guy who busts big nuts across the room has the physiology to do so. A guy who wants to do that can experiment, but anything beyond what God intended (clubing a girl over the head, dragging her back to your cave and procreating) probably has risks. Also, most guys, and no teenagers need this advice, but for mid-20’s and beyond, be sure to bust a nut atleast once a week, clean that bad boy out.

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